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Part 4: Forest Temple Part 4B: Kneecaps Broken Successfully We begin the adult dungeons by heading to Forest Temple and we get a taste of what MQ's true power level looks like, albeit augmented by me missing that eye switch for like 15 minutes.
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Was Nimpize the one where you had to jump across the pillars in the Iron Knuckle room?
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 03:25 |
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Was Nimpize the one where you had to jump across the pillars in the Iron Knuckle room?
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 13:10 |
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I think the dungeon bosses are technically in a separate map from the rest of the dungeon. They're also notoriously hard to change by romhackers, which means the MQ devs prob didn't even try. All the bosses are the same as in vanilla.
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 22:15 |
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Carbon dioxide posted:I think the dungeon bosses are technically in a separate map from the rest of the dungeon. They're also notoriously hard to change by romhackers, which means the MQ devs prob didn't even try. So far the only change to the bosses in Master Quest appears to be that some of them take a few more hits to kill. Volvagia seemed to need like one or two extra hits, and Morpha... well... we don't talk about what Morpha did to Artix
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 22:28 |
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If nothing else this LP has led me to appreciate the craft of the dungeon design in the vanilla game.
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# ? Feb 8, 2023 15:13 |
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Part 5: Fire Temple Part 5B: Ice Cavern It's a double dose of dungeons today as we encounter fire of both the hot and cold varieties. Both dungeons make the...interesting choice to make half of their areas completely pointless, but in different and exciting ways!
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 02:02 |
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Oh right that's what bothered me! Like a full third of the Fire Temple is just...optional. One or two rooms is normal and expected but such a large section that's empty except for a couple collectables just struck me as an odd design choice. But since I am the absolute worst at that race to the hammer anyways I didn't really question it beyond that
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 02:54 |
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And this is as far as I remember of my own MQ playthrough from years ago. Not having to do that staircase run to get the hammer is nice.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:53 |
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Did you forget to activate the scarecrow as adult?
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 11:11 |
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We’ll remember eventually!
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 13:55 |
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gotta pay the boulder tax every time you go through a hallway in the ice caves, that's the law
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 23:50 |
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Another option for places where Navi just inexplicably hangs out all green is the song of storms to spawn one of those ghost fairies w/o wings.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 00:06 |
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Geemer posted:Another option for places where Navi just inexplicably hangs out all green is the song of storms to spawn one of those ghost fairies w/o wings. I can promise you, Artix will never bother to try and play any ocarina songs wherever Navi turns green and just hovers for seemingly no reason.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 01:13 |
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Aren't there spots in either the original game or master quest that have Na'Vi Turns Green spots that due to developer oversights, don't mark anything
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 04:35 |
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Craig K posted:Aren't there spots in either the original game or master quest that have Na'Vi Turns Green spots that due to developer oversights, don't mark anything Places where Navi turns green in the original game, from what I can remember, are fairly rare and usually either Zelda's Lullaby prompt spots like in the Water Temple and the Graveyard or Scarcrow's Song prompt spots. I think Master Quest adds the Song of Time into the mix, given how its cup runeth over with Time Block puzzle bullshit, but I've seen at least two instances where Navi turned green and Artix tried Lullaby, Scarcrow and Time and none of them worked so Master Quest is really half-assed and runs on loving Steiner Math logic at times, okay.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 05:07 |
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Master Quest is why I don't mind later Zelda series "hard modes" being you take double damage and other minor modifiers. Shifting treasure chest rewards around and adding ghost blocks, hookshot targets and different enemies isn't terribly exciting.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 11:29 |
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Time blocks are also in the vanilla game and work the same way (green midair Navi). And as mentioned, a green Navi can also signfiy a spot where you can spawn a Health+Magic refill fairy by playing either the Song of Storms or sometimes the Sun's Song. The Scarecrow variant of green Navi is tricky because not only do you need the Scarecrow active for them to work (that is, after making up the song as child, go back to Lake Hylia as adult and play the song to the visible Scarecrow there), the actual spots that are valid for triggering a Scarecrow appearance do not directly correspond with spots from where Navi turns green. So if you've tried everything and nothing worked, it's likely that it's a Scarecrow but you're just not in the right spot for it to trigger. I'm not aware of any spots where Navi just turns green for no reason, but I wouldn't rule it out that one exists somewhere in the game. But yeah, the game is pretty inconsistent about what you actually need to do when Navi turns green... Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Feb 12, 2023 |
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Anyone seen the rom hack Gold Quest? It's a Master Quest version of Master Quest!
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 14:47 |
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I watched ZFG play it at some point and literally the only thing I remember is that it has 200 gold skulls for some reason???Admiral H. Curtiss posted:I'm not aware of any spots where Navi just turns green for no reason, but I wouldn't rule it out that one exists somewhere in the game. But yeah, the game is pretty inconsistent about what you actually need to do when Navi turns green... The only one I can think of is the one in vanilla Ice Cavern, I think it's in the first freezard room? Might be the spinning scythe room but either way there's one early on that doesn't seem to do anything. Artix fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Feb 12, 2023 |
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Part 6: Water Temple Part 6B: 6000% Speed The Water Temple is the one dungeon that was supposedly improved in the transition from the original game to Master Quest. I'll let you be the judge of that.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 23:36 |
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The windmill.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 02:05 |
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Honestly the realization that everyone in Kakariko is drinking diseased water explains a lot
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Honestly the realization that everyone in Kakariko is drinking diseased water explains a lot So here's a question: how loving abhorrent were the Skulltula family that of all the people in Kak, THEY were the ones that got singled out for a curse and the rest didn't?
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nine-gear crow posted:So here's a question: how loving abhorrent were the Skulltula family that of all the people in Kak, THEY were the ones that got singled out for a curse and the rest didn't? Living on corpse water sounds like a curse to me.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 03:41 |
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Doe the windmill somehow... use water to function...? And speeding it up consumes all the water real fast?
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 04:04 |
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I like that, thanks to cranking the speed up, the windmill spinning like a crazy motherfucker somehow wasn't fast enough to pump all the water out of the well. We had to make it go faster.
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nine-gear crow posted:So here's a question: how loving abhorrent were the Skulltula family that of all the people in Kak, THEY were the ones that got singled out for a curse and the rest didn't? Ok so hear me out...the family knew about the diseased water and since they were the only ones with money to fix it and didn't, that's why they were cursed. It's a completely lovely curse because it doesn't solve the problem but it fits since literally no one in Hyrule is capable of fixing problems besides whatever version of Link is running around
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 14:55 |
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Doe the windmill somehow... use water to function...? And speeding it up consumes all the water real fast? They use the windmill to pump the water from the well, clearly.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 15:17 |
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A lot of Dutch windmills were used for land reclamation by pumping water out. Obviously Ablative is right and the well is on a natural (corpse-filled) spring and they need to drain the water away lest the village floods.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 20:55 |
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nine-gear crow posted:So here's a question: how loving abhorrent were the Skulltula family that of all the people in Kak, THEY were the ones that got singled out for a curse and the rest didn't? they kept being snooty jerks and refused to drink the corpse water. fuckin rich snobs, turn them into spiders
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 16:18 |
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appreciating the orange piccolo form in the latest update
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 20:10 |
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a cartoon duck posted:appreciating the orange piccolo form in the latest update Orange Piccolo is forthcoming. Water Temple/Bottom of the Well prep Piccolo is "Driving Test Episode" Piccolo:
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 20:15 |
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Part 7: Bottom of the Well I'd love to say something witty about BotW but you can only make the corpse water joke so much before it runs dry.
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# ? Feb 22, 2023 22:48 |
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Gotta love how vanilla bottom of the well is lousy with hidden chests, while MQ has none that I could see.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 01:14 |
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 02:24 |
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Any time someone says that Master Quest is a pointless waste of time, I'm just gonna think back to that Wallmaster in the Redead room and ignore them
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 04:05 |
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It was almost as good as ice chests. Almost. So, place your bets! Will the Shadow Temple have a pointless back half like the Fire Temple? Will it have removed ~90% of the puzzles like the Water Temple?
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 05:54 |
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Weeble posted:Will the Shadow Temple have a pointless back half like the Fire Temple? Will it have more hilarious wallmaster grabs?
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I’m curious about one shadow temple The flame maze in Fire temple was a part I remember being obnoxious, so the fact that you skipped it has me confused. I think it had silver rupee collection? Was the 3DS Master Quest a different version or am I just having hazy memory from 8 years ago? E: checked an FAQ and i think all the bullshit that haunts the fringe of my memory is from shadow temple. Good luck y’all Fellis fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Feb 23, 2023 |
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