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I am excited that TFFers support mr Russ going to the hall.
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fartknocker posted:I’m not questioning whether Wilson will get in, I think he’s done more than enough to get in. My question is whether he’d get elected in the first year or two, or if he’d have to wait a bit. I think he needs to have a late career resurgence to be a first ballot HOFer. Win a playoff game or two.
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May 2, 2024 19:27
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I agree, I think another two pro bowls and a relatively deep playoff run would greatly help. Russ is never gonna get an all-pro so needs to rack up pro-bowls and playoff wins
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May 2, 2024 19:30
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He’d make way more pro bowls if he was in the NFC still
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May 2, 2024 19:35
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It's time for Canton to get... DangeRuss.
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May 2, 2024 19:39
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Playing the same time as Brady and Manning was brutal for Rivers. No All Pro, no MVP, no rings.
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May 2, 2024 19:54
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wandler20 posted:Playing the same time as Brady and Manning was brutal for Rivers. No All Pro, no MVP, no rings. The fact that Rivers could barely catch Marino playing almost entirely in an era post-offensive rule changes is more evidence he doesn't belong in the hall. Marino played in a time so different from the game Rivers played their numbers aren't really comparable. The fact that Marino's numbers look great compared to more modern players is a bigger testament to just how good he was not that anyone currently comparable to him is HoF worthy.
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May 2, 2024 20:39
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If Marino had the current ruleset for his career he'd have another 20k yards and probably another couple hundred TDs.
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May 2, 2024 20:42
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Yeah but with modern cocaine and hookers, would Marino have stayed in the league as long?
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fartknocker posted:Yeah but with modern cocaine and hookers, would Marino have stayed in the league as long? Smdh this criticism is in Marino's favor. The quality increases means Marino would be more feral and more motivated to loving sling it
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May 2, 2024 20:55
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So good yet so far from a ring, even in this hypothetical.
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May 2, 2024 20:57
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wandler20 posted:Playing the same time as Brady and Manning was brutal for Rivers. No All Pro, no MVP, no rings. Those loving rushing yards from Marino lol
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May 2, 2024 20:59
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Want to see all of his rushing touchdowns? Amazingly only 1 was a QB sneak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjUMHQryFM
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May 2, 2024 21:04
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Forrest on Fire posted:Smdh this criticism is in Marino's favor. The quality increases means Marino would be more feral and more motivated to loving sling it He’d throw for 7,000 yards… then be suspended the next season for failed drug tests. Now, if we want to truly see someone more feral, give peak Lawrence Taylor some modern yeyo and he might decapitate people. Kalli posted:Want to see all of his rushing touchdowns? So many of the fake dive/qb rollouts and they’re all so slow. They make Peyton’s look fast…
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May 2, 2024 21:28
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How the gently caress do you play for that long and only have 87 rushing yards?
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May 2, 2024 21:29
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:How the gently caress do you play for that long and only have 87 rushing yards? Dan Marino made Drew Bledsoe look fast
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May 2, 2024 21:30
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A combination of shitloads of injuries leading him to wear these hideous knee braces for the second half of his career combined with kneeldowns counting as a -1 yard rush. I mean and he was slow as poo poo before that, just that fate conspired to make his numbers even worse.
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May 2, 2024 21:32
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:How the gently caress do you play for that long and only have 87 rushing yards? Real men throw from the pocket 
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a neat cape posted:Antonio Gates taps his foot Alan Faneca had six consecutive and had to wait forever. I agree tho, Antonio Gates is a HoFer
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May 2, 2024 21:39
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Marino is the true GOAT Haters vacate
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Black Sunshine posted:Marino is the true GOAT It’s true (for now). Soon Mahomes will be goat.
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D-LINK posted:Alan Faneca had six consecutive and had to wait forever. I agree tho, Antonio Gates is a HoFer The problem is capping the number of people that can get in each year. It's stupid
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a neat cape posted:The problem is capping the number of people that can get in each year. It's stupid Yeah, that's the big issue. It made sense when they opened the HoF in 1963 and the NFL only had 14 teams (Cause they drat sure didn't care about the AFL or other leagues) to only do 5 inductees a year, but now it leads to poo poo like Gates not getting in first ballot, which is pretty absurd. They've made minor changes of splitting off coaches/contributors and added the senior nominees, but it still means a lot of absolutely deserving players end up overlooked or waiting. Also the voters are known to have their assorted biases and issues over the years, but that's another matter 
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May 2, 2024 23:28
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Russ should eventually make it, but he'll probably have to wait a bit because there's going to be some downright dominant dudes retiring around the same time. I know he wants to play longer and all but there's some crazy good players who've retired in the last few years and will retire in the next few and there's already a little bit of a logjam.
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May 3, 2024 00:51
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I know this thread is for recent/current players but I just need to vent about this. Casey Hampton deserves to be in the Hall but will never get in because being the greatest nose tackle ever is a thankless job with no counting stats to show just what an impact he made. He was the anchor of a top 5 rushing defense for a decade, an absolutely immovable object eating up double teams to let the rest of Dick Lebeau's defense run wild. 2 rings and another SB appearance, 5 pro bowls, but no all-pros because there's no differentiating between DT techniques in the voting. On top of that he had a top-tier nickname. Big Snack for the hall. 
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Doctor Syrup posted:I know this thread is for recent/current players but I just need to vent about this. id agree on the stipulation that you throw kelly gregg in there also
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May 3, 2024 18:54
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Alright so that’s Hampton, Gregg and Vince Wilfork for next year then?
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Corzaa posted:Alright so that’s Hampton, Gregg and Vince Wilfork for next year then? 
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Corzaa posted:Alright so that’s Hampton, Gregg and Vince Wilfork for next year then? Chuck in a couple guards or centers. Big boi szn.
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Forrest on Fire posted:Smdh this criticism is in Marino's favor. The quality increases means Marino would be more feral and more motivated to loving sling it cocaine has gotten worse in my drug-use lifetime so I can't even imagine how bad it compares to the 80s, plus there's fentanyl now so maybe he would of died. e: I remember an interview where Rod Stewart said he quit coke cause you couldn't get good quality purity anymore. If rod Steward I definitely loving can't
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indigi posted:cocaine has gotten worse in my drug-use lifetime so I can't even imagine how bad it compares to the 80s, plus there's fentanyl now so maybe he would of died. It's easier to get quality mdma or ecstasy than it is cocaine these days and that's saying something
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I never have a big issue with that but maybe being in California helps To attempt to steer back to the topic at hand, who are the biggest cocaine abusers in the hof
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Forrest on Fire posted:Smdh this criticism is in Marino's favor. The quality increases means Marino would be more feral and more motivated to loving sling it Weeds gotten way better since the 80s Cokes way worse
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Play posted:I never have a big issue with that but maybe being in California helps Irvine and Taylor jump out.
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May 5, 2024 01:43
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Blake Bortles.
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Doctor Syrup posted:I know this thread is for recent/current players but I just need to vent about this. Add a new wing exclusively for players over 300 pounds The hall of fat
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Play posted:To attempt to steer back to the topic at hand, who are the biggest cocaine abusers in the hof I mean, like 90% of players during the 70's and 80's were on a constant stream of cocaine and pills so I'd say throwing a dart at any team picture during those years would get you a strong candidate.
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Doctor Syrup posted:I know this thread is for recent/current players but I just need to vent about this. I'd add Big Vince Wilfork to that list.
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this list is getting really big. add it to the list
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Lamar Jackson is a shoe in hall of famer. Two time MVP who has the single season rushing record for a QB. Every player that's won more than one MVP is a Hall of Famer or an obvious future first ballot inclusion.
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