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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

quote:

TOKYO, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said on Monday his country would consider further tightening its borders as the newly discovered Omicron coronavirus variant spreads around the world.
"We are (taking measures) with a strong sense of crisis," Kishida told reporters, noting that Japan closed its borders to foreigners travelling from nine countries including South Africa as of Sunday.

"As we're seeing a spread around the world, we continue to consider further measures to tighten border controls and will announce a decision at the appropriate time."


The PM had to clarify

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

A Terrible Person posted:

So... did they actually close their borders or did they "close" their borders like the US, where anyone can come and go except poor's from elsewhere?

Edit

Or, potentially, literally Elsweyr.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/11/29/national/japan-omicron-entry-restrictions/

The envisioned plan reportedly does not affect foreign residents re-entering Japan and Japanese nationals. Prime Minister Fumio Kishida was to make an official announcement in the afternoon.

On Nov. 8, Japan started allowing new entries such as foreign students and technical interns for the first time in nearly a year, provided that they quarantine for 14 days, which will be shortened to 10 days if they are vaccinated. But with the threat of the omicron variant, which may be more infectious than other strains, the nation is expected to tighten entry restrictions once again.


covid was over so they relaxed restrictions

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

shrike82 posted:

japan only lifted a total ban on foreigners at the start of november so it's more them changing their minds

Open Perry

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
open the country

stop...having it be closed

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Love how the AP frames this

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1465179817830199297?s=20

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock

the main issue with this chart is that we have no timeline for the mutations, they could have happened in a small population over time but the chart acts like it was unchanged for over a year then suddenly turbo-mutated in the last months

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

:five:

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1465180585958289408?s=19

if it sucks hit da bricks

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

McNugget Buddy posted:

I think there's already a shortage on Moderna, so lol if 100 mcg Moderna ends up being effective and there's not enough to go around

Or if people who recently got boosted with something else get told to hit the bricks
Johan Liebert is getting their 4th vaxxx shot, a full dose Moderna at the start of December. motherfuckers better have my vax

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/status/1464685343261741063

Morbus
May 18, 2004


no not like that

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

lol could loving drive through the gaps in those masks my god why aren't they all in 3m Auras AT THE loving LEAST

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014




lol

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

quote:

Certainly there will be some disruptions in our daily lives--there already are, but I'm highly skeptical that society is going to collapse as you two seem to be planning (hoping?) for. The world after coronavirus will be different--as others have mentioned I think there will be an overwhelming push for M4A and other social programs in the US. There may be an increased interest in supply chain resilience and producing more products locally as well. Maybe we'll even take climate change seriously.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Tzen posted:

lol could loving drive through the gaps in those masks my god why aren't they all in 3m Auras AT THE loving LEAST

It’s elder abuse.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

shackleford posted:

they clearly know where to get the good N95's (3m aura's) but they only break 'em out when republicans come to visit


lmao well then

Morbus
May 18, 2004

Tzen posted:

lol could loving drive through the gaps in those masks my god why aren't they all in 3m Auras AT THE loving LEAST

To be fair, they are all double vaxed, boosted, tested regularly and given mAbs at the drop of a hat, so the risk of dying to covid is tiny.

Physical and mental deterioration is in the cards, but they're no strangers to any of that.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Johnny Cache Hit posted:

the democrats have realized Biden/Harris is not a winning ticket in 24 and are taking corrective measures

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Morbus posted:

To be fair, they are all double vaxed, boosted, tested regularly and given mAbs at the drop of a hat, so the risk of dying to covid is tiny.

Physical and mental deterioration is in the cards, but they're no strangers to any of that.
yeah true

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018


I hereby predict that 2022 will be the year of memes about how we thought 2020 was bad but actually 2022 is much worse.

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005


amazing, thank you, finally a reason for the re-av

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Morbus posted:

Even in places with "good" surveillance, the sampling rate is low enough that an emerging, successful variant, spreading under permissive conditions is likely to circulate for months before it actually shows up on anyone's radar.

I posted back in the end of July that:

-Given the timing of vaccine rollouts and the resulting selective pressure
-The fact that many of the known "anitbody escape" point mutations can and will occur even in individual infections
-An Rt of around 1.5 or so

You would expect an antibody escape variant to emerge relatively quickly, but not be a known or significant problem for about 20 or so generations and therefore, and I quote: "in 2-4 months ... right around Thanksgiving"

I was wrong that it would be a delta sublineage or that it would emerge someplace with lots of vaccinated people (as opposed to some vaccinated & lots of convalescent people) but still, lol & lmao:
An actual idiot on a socialist shitposting forum in July posted:
I've mentioned before--virtually all of these mutations will occur more often than not in most individual infections. What causes them to spread and become established in a new variant is A.) sufficient selective pressure for these mutations and B.) a permissive environment with sustained Rt > 1 that allows a newcomer to outcompete the existing variants long enough to establish dominance. We have both of those.

At the current Rt of ~1.6 in many places, such a hypothetical immune escape variant would be expected to become a significant problem after about 20 or so generations, or 2-4 months after delta became established in an area with lots of vaccinated people.

With delta having become widespread in the US during the June-July timeframe, that would be right around Thanksgiving.

lol.

lmao

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
aight, well.. lets go ahead and lock 'er down again, say, for another 6 months or so, and get thsoe bernie bucks flowing once more, shall we? im ready to Sacrifice and Do My Part to ensure the safety of my fellow American 💪💪

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Smythe posted:

aight, well.. lets go ahead and lock 'er down again, say, for another 6 months or so, and get thsoe bernie bucks flowing once more, shall we? im ready to Sacrifice and Do My Part to ensure the safety of my fellow American 💪💪

quote:

I...I'm aghast at this. You're really sincerely supporting human rights violations to keep people safe? That's not a line we should cross--or at least not a line we should cross until we've exhausted other measures such as voluntary quarantine.



I'm sorry thread. I've been trying to be a voice of reason here. I've tried to be calming and share my (small amount of) expertise as an epidemiologist, but it's pretty clear to me now that this is not a thread where my perspective is valuable. I'm out. I hope everyone stays safe and healthy.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

Smythe posted:

aight, well.. lets go ahead and lock 'er down again, say, for another 6 months or so, and get thsoe bernie bucks flowing once more, shall we? im ready to Sacrifice and Do My Part to ensure the safety of my fellow American 💪💪

listen Jack. no

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Smythe posted:

aight, well.. lets go ahead and lock 'er down again, say, for another 6 months or so, and get thsoe bernie bucks flowing once more, shall we? im ready to Sacrifice and Do My Part to ensure the safety of my fellow American 💪💪

We can't let people afford food during lockdown because it will raise gas prices 50 cents.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


the individual western right to liberty outranks the collective right to life and continuation of society, nay, civilization

RedQueen
Apr 21, 2007

It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place.

lmao: The police known as the Marechausse said in a statement the pair were arrested "in an airplane that was about to depart."

https://www.tbsnews.net/coronavirus-chronicle/dutch-police-arrest-couple-fled-covid-quarantine-336136

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Tempora Mutantur posted:

amazing, thank you, finally a reason for the re-av

Haha, np.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

mycomancy posted:

Still, it was bullshit and CommieGIR needs to be destarred asap.

lmao this guy has always been a sniveling loser and was glad when stopped whining and mostly left AI

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Joementum posted:

has there been any actual evidence that it is milder aside from a misquoted doctor and people just getting their hopes up?

The real lesson from COVID is that a huge number of working scientists in positions to impact policy actually don't give a poo poo about how science is supposed to function at all. Literally just throwing the inconvenient parts of the scientific method into the trash if it means acknowledging a reality that makes them uncomfortable or if it means suggesting anything approaching real caution.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


also watch me as without collective labor I descend into despondency and misery

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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RedQueen posted:

lmao: The police known as the Marechausse said in a statement the pair were arrested "in an airplane that was about to depart."

https://www.tbsnews.net/coronavirus-chronicle/dutch-police-arrest-couple-fled-covid-quarantine-336136

Don’t worry.

The airliner’s antiviral force field protected everyone else. :blessed:

Serf
May 5, 2011



funny how violating so-called "human rights" has saved countless lives in the time of the coronavirus. its almost as if bourgeois democracy is a scam and liberal values are dogshit

oglethorpe2020
May 23, 2020

tux liberation front



Holy gently caress goddamn

I've been reading The Coming of the Third Reich and just goddamn I haven't gotten past chapter one and the just absolute arrogance

oglethorpe2020 fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 29, 2021

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
im sorry if if i caused those probes i wasnt trying to be a dick. my anxiety is through the roof. also house of gucci loving sucks.

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OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dead gay comedy forums posted:

the individual western right to liberty outranks the collective right to life and continuation of society, nay, civilization

I wouldn't want to live in a world where i couldn't express my freedumb by stuffing my fat American face at Applebees any time any day of the week

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