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teagone posted:I didn't care for Hereditary, but I thought this was ok. That's my opinion, thanks for reading. The only thing I liked about Hereditary was “The Scream” and if you’ve seen the movie you know exactly what I mean. I adored Midsommar. I’m glad I saw Midsommar first otherwise I may not have given it a chance.
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Just watched this movie tonight. I am going to go lay down now and wish I didnt have to live on this planet. Humanity was a mistake. 
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Sep 25, 2019 04:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3qxTIsOhQ
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Sep 25, 2019 19:29
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This movie also has instilled in me that Swedish people are weird. It's funny, because I've met exactly 4 Swedish people in my life, and they all exhibited the same kind of eccentric energy Pelle did. That made me lol a bit.
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Sep 25, 2019 21:21
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I'm scared to be around Swedish people now.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:04
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I said come in! posted:I'm scared to be around Swedish people now. How dare you!
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Sep 25, 2019 23:05
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I said come in! posted:I'm scared to be around Swedish people now. I moved to be in Sweden, myself! Thankfully not so murder-inclined then as the movie would have you think. Actually, my partner didn't want to see the film not because they felt it would be too scary but because they felt it would be a 'Hollywood-ified' version of Sweden, and they couldn't stomach it.
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Sep 26, 2019 14:38
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Samovar posted:I moved to be in Sweden, myself! They are not completely wrong. I mean, the cult murder stuff is completely fake, even the director admits this. The wholesome rituals where no one dies, the runes, their meanings, and use as an actual language though are all real.
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Sep 26, 2019 15:56
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I said come in! posted:They are not completely wrong. I mean, the cult murder stuff is completely fake, even the director admits this. The wholesome rituals where no one dies, the runes, their meanings, and use as an actual language though are all real. I thought the old people jumping off cliffs had some evidence behind it (from, like, ancient times)?
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Sep 26, 2019 16:03
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The sources for that are like, the same Romans writing about how in India people have no heads and their faces are on their bellies, and basilisks are real. Most of the legends about Attestupa come from a comic story from a medieval saga.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:12
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When I saw the old couple walking up I was reminded of the suicide scene from Battle Royale, going hand in hand in a kind of romantic way. Instead I got a Gallagher show.
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Sep 26, 2019 16:16
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Halloween Jack posted:The sources for that are like, the same Romans writing about how in India people have no heads and their faces are on their bellies, and basilisks are real. Most of the legends about Attestupa come from a comic story from a medieval saga. Ah
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Sep 26, 2019 19:40
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all i know is that they nailed the being on shrooms "everything is breathing, but wait is it? oh it is, I'm tripping balls" feeling really well
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Sep 27, 2019 23:01
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Doorknob Slobber posted:all i know is that they nailed the being on shrooms "everything is breathing, but wait is it? oh it is, I'm tripping balls" feeling really well Fully agree with this. It's one of the most realistic depictions of tripping I've ever seen on film. It's not over exaggerated at the peak like happens in a lot of movies and the effect lessen but don't necessarily go away quickly. I liked this a lot more than Hereditary. I saw the theatrical this week which was more than enough. I got what I wanted out of it and as curious as I am about the other half hour, I was more than entertained with what was there.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:13
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I just got done watching the director's cut (haven't seen the theatrical one). Even though I'd been thoroughly spoiled, I didn't mind. I loved the movie. Florence Pugh deserves an Oscar; her emotions felt very real to me, but then I've had my own issues with anxiety and not feeling like I can talk about my emotions or let anyone know what I'm going through. I'm writing a book of movie reviews and will include one of Midsommar. Thinking of titling the review "The Bear and the Maiden Fair".
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Sep 28, 2019 00:25
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a new study bible! posted:
I'm re-animating a months old post because I dont think its unique wrongness was ever addressed. The idea of pointing to Hereditary as an example of agency in horror, when the characters being trapped and robbed of their agency is clobbered over the viewers head repeatedly in the narrative (the characters are trapped by a curse which pre-ordains and orders the 'agency' of the characters who are manipulated and terrorized by said curse), in the aesthetics (trapped within the confines of a terrorized and abject family unit and physically within the claustrophobic confines of their home) and by hammer-thudderingly subtle metaphor (the doll-houses for crying out loud!), is just a breathtakingly bad take. For me, Hereditary and Midsommar are horrifying precisely because the characters are stricken of their agency. Because Aster lays out, explicitly and from the outset, precisely what will happen to these characters and, as the viewer, all we can do is sit in horror as the trap slowly constricts around them. I love the movies but have such a hard time watching them. In both films the violence plays the role of comic relief (see in Hereditary Charlie's head being knocked clean off of her shoulders in the style of a schlocky 1970s hammer horror, or in Midsommar the elder's abject failure to commit suicide properly, leading to him getting a clonk on the head with an oversized hammer) to allow a breath from the real horror, the slow ratcheting up of tension toward what we already know is coming, and whose conclusion we can do nothing about. Midsommar was more horrific for me than Hereditary simply because the idea of being forced to take hallucinogenics is much more horrific to me than occult hexes. I'm not sure I've had as much of a reaction from a scene as I did that final dinner scene, it was truly hard for me to watch. Simiain fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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Sep 28, 2019 06:25
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Agreed that the hallucinogen scenes were hard to watch. I'm a control freak who maybe has one drink a month or the occasional edible, and the idea of drugs like the ones in the movie, let alone being pressured into them or taking them while in unfamiliar place/people and not in the best mental state to handle them, is nightmarish. I disliked Christian's character, yet his clear discomfort with his "trip" during the final dinner made me sympathy for him; great work by the actor, by the way, especially the way he walks when he goes to the assignation with Maja - he's clearly saying with his posture and the way he walks that he doesn't like this at all.
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Sep 28, 2019 15:28
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I've been absolutely gagging to watch this again since going to the cinema, it's such a wonderfully strange film that i'm looking forward to showing it to friends (and no doubt being bitched at for it.....I'm still getting poo poo for getting them to see hereditary in the cinema with me) I've pre-ordered the director's cut Blu-Ray so I'm going to avoid watching it through any other means until then.
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Sep 28, 2019 18:10
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Catching up: Has anyone mentioned how the patriarch (I forget his name) says the kid is "unclouded" because he's inbred and at the very end he says the same about Pele?
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Oct 2, 2019 21:05
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Finally got to see the director's cut and honestly I think I prefer the theatrical cut. All the added scenes just just make the subtext text.
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Oct 2, 2019 22:51
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Inzombiac posted:Catching up: I feel like nothing about what the villagers say about themselves and their traditions, can be trusted.
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Oct 2, 2019 23:00
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Inzombiac posted:Catching up: I think they just valued unclouded judgment and weren't suggesting tha Pele was inbred.
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Oct 3, 2019 06:31
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Inzombiac posted:Catching up: I took it as an implication that when/if the oracle dies from medical issues or whatever, Pele will now be highly considered to inbreed and help father a new oracle.
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Oct 3, 2019 14:40
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Franchescanado posted:I took it as an implication that when/if the oracle dies from medical issues or whatever, Pele will now be highly considered to inbreed and help father a new oracle. Exactly how I took it.
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Oct 3, 2019 14:45
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Seems like they really burn through people quick. I mean it's a huge pain in the rear end to make new ones since you need outside DNA, and then you're killing like 4 a year? I gotta run some numbers, but based on my preliminary research, I think we're gonna have to make some management changes on this commune.
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Oct 3, 2019 15:21
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I thought originally that Pelle's parents were outsiders who were sacrificed ("they died in a fire") and that he was then adopted by the village. This is part of why he's so attracted to Dani, since he believes that she can find a new family the way he did. If she ends up sacrificed, well then she's free of her pain and its a win-win. But apparently this version of the festival only takes place every 90 years? What is the "regular" Midsommar, since there's been a bunch of May Queens, and everyone has to sacrifice themselves at 72.
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Oct 3, 2019 15:32
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This is dumb but it made me laugh: Midsommar as told through vines/memes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6lDcDAgE4
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Oct 3, 2019 15:50
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Anyone else just fully creeped out on the “food” they were served? If you watch the extras eating it’s just the creepiest thing ever and they never seem to take a bite, just sort of kiss the piece of food on their fork. It seemed intentional, I couldn’t even make out what any of the food was on the tables. I would have been loving starving in that place. Edit: Aside from the hair pie of course, that looked delicious.
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goodog posted:I thought originally that Pelle's parents were outsiders who were sacrificed ("they died in a fire") and that he was then adopted by the village. This is part of why he's so attracted to Dani, since he believes that she can find a new family the way he did. If she ends up sacrificed, well then she's free of her pain and its a win-win. If Pelle's parents were sacrificed and the festival is every 90 years, the timeline doesn't make any sense. I think that's what they were going for but it doesn't work. Either it's more frequent than they let on (there's no point in lying about this), Pelle is lying about what happened to them or they died in an unrelated fire.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:19
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my take was the big festival is every 90 years, but these people are clearly up to hosed up poo poo all the drat time
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Oct 3, 2019 18:29
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:my take was the big festival is every 90 years, but these people are clearly up to hosed up poo poo all the drat time Yeah, I'm just joshing about the numbers not making sense. The cult definitely seems like the kind of people that would be like "Hey, let's do a sacrifice temple next month" out of the blue.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:32
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It makes sense from context that they have many rituals, but it's only every 90 years that they do the whole shebang. Pelle's parents surely died in a lesser ritual. Someone suggested that they probably bury produce every year, have a May Queen every 4 years, do human sacrifice every 15 or 18 years, and so on, and it's only every 90 years that everything is happening at once.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:33
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My assumption was that they only did the full ritual with outsiders every 90 years but had some of the individual parts more often. Like maybe they do the may queen dance every year, fake tossing a kid in the river every three years, and burn down a hut once a decade. And some of those hut burning years may not require the same number of sacrifices that the 90 year celebration does. But they clearly have to be doing this stuff more often so that the people in charge of stuffing bears and chanting things can maintain and pass down those skills.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:41
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Imagine if a human sacrifice movie that isn't even about the big event--but the practice run. "The next ritual won't be for forty years, but I need someone to con a bunch of outsiders into visiting the village so I can practice my human taxidermy and teach it to my grandson."
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Oct 3, 2019 18:53
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Say what you want about the tenets of murderous Swedish neopaganism, their embroidery is gorgeous.
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Oct 3, 2019 20:48
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just another posted:Say what you want about the tenets of murderous Swedish neopaganism, their embroidery is gorgeous. If you haven't listened to it yet, the A24 podcast episode with Ari Aster and Robert Eggars has a lot of interesting stuff about the embroidery and costuming in Midsommar.
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Oct 3, 2019 20:49
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Franchescanado posted:If you haven't listened to it yet, the A24 podcast episode with Ari Aster and Robert Eggars has a lot of interesting stuff about the embroidery and costuming in Midsommar. Awesome, thank you!
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Oct 3, 2019 21:06
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Harton posted:Anyone else just fully creeped out on the “food” they were served? It's really hackneyed and I'm glad they didn't go for it, but I really expected the two Brits to have ended up in the food. When Christian pulls the hair from his mouth, I was sure it'd be a nail or something.
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Is the Director's Cut actually worth watching? I watched the theatrical version twice and I loved it, but don't really want to subject myself to another watch unless it actually adds something to the narrative. Previous posts said it makes the subtext actual text and that turns me off, so I want to know if it is actually worth another go. I rated this a 4.5 out of 5 and am starting to think it should get full marks, I just don't want to jump into it again unless it's worth it.
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