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dont even fink about it posted:After some years, people are starting to come around on Scarface actually being a piece of poo poo movie. Nah, it owns.
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Basebf555 posted:I know that's a pretty standard criticism of Spielberg, but I've never really understood why its a problem. The sentimentality rarely seems to hurt the movie, but obviously that's just my own opinion, plenty feel that it does. I like Spielberg, but I do think it gets old how every one of his movies except the first couple Indiana Jones have this as a major subplot. DeimosRising posted:It's a perfect movie. On a lot of days, I'd say it's THE perfect movie. Mitchum's "Reverend" Harry Powell is maybe the only villain character as influential as the Universal monsters. I thought the ending was kind of anticlimactic. The bad guy shows up, gets shot once, and runs away. Cut to him being arrested. The end. Other than that, I really liked it. I may be cheating a bit on this one, because Empire Strikes Back is a good movie, but I disagree with the consensus that it's the best in the series. It definitely has some of the best character moments, but hardly anything actually happens in it. At least half the movie is Luke training and Han and Leia hiding on a tiny ship. I totally understand why some people like it best, but I prefer more structured movies that tell a complete story, rather than the obvious middle chapter wheel-spin that ESB was.
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I tried The Searchers. I don't understand when people say that John Wayne is acting against type or acting in any way out of the ordinary. The character is just an intensified version of his normal cranky man. The movie is not a brilliant, nuanced statement on racism - Native Americans attack and kidnap his relatives, so he is mad at them. The action is somewhat dull. Gorgeous cinematography though.
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Soggy Cereal posted:I tried The Searchers. I don't understand when people say that John Wayne is acting against type or acting in any way out of the ordinary. The character is just an intensified version of his normal cranky man. The movie is not a brilliant, nuanced statement on racism - Native Americans attack and kidnap his relatives, so he is mad at them. The action is somewhat dull. The movie isn't especially concerned with the victims of John Wayne's racism, or even making the case that his racism is misguided, the focus is on how he's personally destroyed and alienated from his family and civilization by his own racism.
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Jan 26, 2017 04:10
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Bicycle Thieves is painfully tedious. Laaventura is completely void of content. Au Hasard Balthazar is the dullest movie I've ever seen.
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General Dog posted:The movie isn't especially concerned with the victims of John Wayne's racism, or even making the case that his racism is misguided, the focus is on how he's personally destroyed and alienated from his family and civilization by his own racism. Yeah, The Searchers is more of a character study than an attack on the US' treatment of Native Americans. It exposes the gunfighter as an embittered, broken man ostracised by society, rather than a heroic ideal worth striving for. Magic Hate Ball posted:Bicycle Thieves is painfully tedious. Laaventura is completely void of content. Au Hasard Balthazar is the dullest movie I've ever seen. How do you feel about Tokyo Story?
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Jan 26, 2017 05:15
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Samuel Clemens posted:How do you feel about Tokyo Story? So, so boring. I think I liked Bicycle Thieves at the time, but I barely remember anything about it.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:20
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I hate Dead Man, it's insanely boring. I'm not going to hate on Jim Jarmusch, though. I think if he had made The Revenant it would have been a million times better.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:22
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Samuel Clemens posted:How do you feel about Tokyo Story? I liked it a lot, actually. It didn't make me weep buckets like its reputation says you're supposed to but I was pretty involved and I really enjoy Ozu's use of narrative ellipse to use the mundane as a highlighter on the emotional lives of the characters. Bicycle Thieves is the opposite for me, it's all plodding, desultory stuff that's supposed to wrench my heart out but it comes across as sort of generic.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:42
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Monsters is a grade A piece of poo poo and I will fight any and all people who like that loving thing.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:43
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I liked it a lot, actually. It didn't make me weep buckets like its reputation says you're supposed to but I was pretty involved and I really enjoy Ozu's use of narrative ellipse to use the mundane as a highlighter on the emotional lives of the characters. Bicycle Thieves is the opposite for me, it's all plodding, desultory stuff that's supposed to wrench my heart out but it comes across as sort of generic. Interesting that you felt this way about Tokyo Story yet disliked Au Hasard Balthazar. To me they have very similar approaches to obtaining our emotional investment.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:51
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IDK I've really enjoyed Bicycle Thieves both times I've seen it but I'll agree with you about Au Hasard Balthazar. I couldn't even remember what happened in the movie as I was watching it. e: The Goonies sucks.
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Jan 26, 2017 05:54
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Spatulater bro! posted:Interesting that you felt this way about Tokyo Story yet disliked Au Hasard Balthazar. To me they have very similar approaches to obtaining our emotional investment. All the spiritual stuff was totally lost on me. Oh, also I loving loathed Life of Pi. I've never hated an ending more.
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Jan 26, 2017 06:21
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I don't hate them, but The Big Lebowski and Fargo do absolutely nothing for me. I just don't get the appeal.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What's your favorite, I can't even picture a good guess right now. Out of his middle period? Dunno, I haven't seen any yet. Hence the need for a thread where I watch all of them. I'd put odds on The Happening, though, based on how much the brief clips I've seen of it have been extremely my poo poo Out of all the ones I've seen? Unbreakable is a masterpiece
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Jan 26, 2017 07:36
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I didn't like how I could feel Forrest Gump trying to emotionally manipulate me into liking the title character. I can't stay awake when trying to watch Eraserhead because I find it boring. On a similar note, I also can't seem to stay awake when trying to watch any of the Harry Potter movies either. They just bore me to sleep.
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Jan 26, 2017 08:35
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Necromantik is a bad movie because it gave me a boner.
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For me it's Donnie Darko. The actors and writing in general is mostly so horribly bad that it's just unwatchable to me.
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Spatulater bro! posted:Interesting that you felt this way about Tokyo Story yet disliked Au Hasard Balthazar. To me they have very similar approaches to obtaining our emotional investment. So to contribute to this thread, I don't like either of the Nosferatus and The Proposition.
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General Dog posted:The movie isn't especially concerned with the victims of John Wayne's racism, or even making the case that his racism is misguided, the focus is on how he's personally destroyed and alienated from his family and civilization by his own racism. I got that, I just didn't particularly feel like he was alienated from his family or civilization. Everyone's excited to see him and treats him as a valued guest, he leads the search party, and people generally go along with what he says. He clearly has a place in his society. Emotionally he's distant, but I never saw that as racism specifically, just general crankiness as a part of his personality.
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Jenny Angel posted:Out of his middle period? Dunno, I haven't seen any yet. Hence the need for a thread where I watch all of them. I'd put odds on The Happening, though, based on how much the brief clips I've seen of it have been extremely my poo poo Oh, I entirely misread you!
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Soggy Cereal posted:I got that, I just didn't particularly feel like he was alienated from his family or civilization. Everyone's excited to see him and treats him as a valued guest, he leads the search party, and people generally go along with what he says. He clearly has a place in his society. Emotionally he's distant, but I never saw that as racism specifically, just general crankiness as a part of his personality. There's a lot of subtlety to his relationships that are easy to miss on first viewing. For instance, Ethan clearly was in love with his brother's wife and its obvious that they have some sort of history. Within 5 minutes of him showing up his brother's asking him how long he's planning to stay, and he makes an offensive comment at the dinner table the first night. He leads the search party, sure, but people realize that this is Ethan in his element, its what he's good for. When the situation is resolved, he turns around and walks away because he knows that there's no place for him there unless there are people who need saving or killing. Real life, the part that starts once there's nobody left to save or kill, has no place in it for someone like Ethan.
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I thought of another one: Last Year at Marienbad did nothing for me. I don't think I've ever looked at my clock so many times during a movie.
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Spatulater bro! posted:I thought of another one: Last Year at Marienbad did nothing for me. I don't think I've ever looked at my clock so many times during a movie. Admit it, you just couldn't figure out how that one guy kept winning the matchstick game and got frustrated
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zenintrude posted:Admit it, you just couldn't figure out how that one guy kept winning the matchstick game and got frustrated I have a problem 
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The Searchers also has a perfect ending scene, managing to convey Ethan's distance to his family without a single line dialogue. FeastForCows posted:I don't hate them, but The Big Lebowski and Fargo do absolutely nothing for me. I just don't get the appeal. The Big Lebowski has a very off-beat sense of humour, so I can understand why people would bounce off of it. There's not much to really "get" about Fargo, though. It's just an incredibly well-executed noir with a wonderful lead character.
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OregonDonor posted:Grand Budapest Hotel was Wes Anderson disappearing up his own rear end for two hours. It's probably my favorite of his films after The Royal Tenenbaums. Rushmore is probably my least favorite of his films, though.
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I've developed a semi-strong dislike for Wes Anderson. Back in the day I used to fawn over Royal Tenenbaums and Rushmore, but lately his style rubs me the wrong way. It's so brand-y, insincere and sterile. "This is what a Wes Anderson film looks like." It's like with Tim Burton. I really started feeling this way when I saw Moonrise Kingdom. Everyone praised it, but I found its forced quirkiness to be pretentious and bland. I haven't seen Grand Budapest Hotel.
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Wes Anderson's style like a really intense ethnic food, like gefilte fish or marmite. I can totally understand why it would be a major turn off for some people but I can't get enough.
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I used to love the style. I think I'm just totally sick of it. After seeing The Hateful Eight, I'm starting to feel this way about Tarantino a little bit too. Although his style is much less one-note than Anderson's. But Hateful Eight kinda felt like *generic Tarantino movie*. It was also tedious and awkwardly-paced. For the first time I felt his ego getting in the way of making a good movie.
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Most auteurs like Tarantino and Anderson don't make a ton of films though, so its tough for me to say that I'm sick of their style. When they're making like one new film ever 3-5 years I just appreciate that I get to experience another one.
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I actually like it when directors turn their style up to 11. With the exception of Tim Burton who seems to be trying this but it just makes him come off like some hack badly trying to parody Tim Burton.FeastForCows posted:I don't hate them, but The Big Lebowski and Fargo do absolutely nothing for me. I just don't get the appeal. The Big Lebowski is a film noir except instead of a hardboiled detective the main character is a constantly stoned slacker. Fargo is a film noir but mostly set in a part of the country that those of sort of stories seldom touch. They also subvert the stereotype of the incompetent small town cop by having Marge be the smartest and most competent person in the entire film. That's basically what the Coens do best. Make a extremely solid noir but put their own eccentric little spin on it somehow. Also both films are very funny, well written, and feature some top notch cinematography.
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I'm a huge Wes Anderson fan, but Darjeeling Limited was a distillation of all of his worst tendencies. The Dark Knight is one of the most aesthetically offensive and ideologically ugly films of the last decade, and is only saved from being the worst Batman movie by the fact that The Dark Knight Rises exists. I understand why people might find Blade Runner affecting, but it left me completely cold. Same with The Godfather.
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I hated Wedding Crashers main characters but Will Ferrel's character is hilarious. I also don't get the love for Heat, except the cool shootout scene. My family also watches poo poo like The Minions and Here Comes the Boom, etc, that just make me grimace if I try to join.
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FreudianSlippers posted:I actually like it when directors turn their style up to 11. With the exception of Tim Burton who seems to be trying this but it just makes him come off like some hack badly trying to parody Tim Burton. Blood Simple blew me away because I was honestly not expecting their first feature to be that amazing. The shot that really sold it for me was when Julian is talking to Ray outside the bar with the bug zapper in the background. Dan Hedaya plays the scene with all this rage just barely kept from boiling over, then you see/hear a bug zap behind him. I still have some of their films to catch (haven't seen Miller's Crossing, Inside Llewyn Davis, or Intolerable Cruelty yet), but I have yet to be disappointed. Even a weaker film like The Ladykillers is fun if just for the incredible photography and great cast.
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Miller's Crossing is great but I can see why they took a break from writing it to write Barton Fink.
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Egbert Souse posted:I still have some of their films to catch (haven't seen Miller's Crossing, Inside Llewyn Davis, or Intolerable Cruelty yet), but I have yet to be disappointed. Even a weaker film like The Ladykillers is fun if just for the incredible photography and great cast.
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