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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Skoll posted:

Hmm, yes Mr. Video Game Company, you can hold me hostage while you rape my wallet over your skinner box game.

lol why should they keep selling you games if you're just gonna issue chargebacks

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daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
If there isn't a server browser, how do you join games?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

daslog posted:

If there isn't a server browser, how do you join games?

You tell it you want to play a game, and then it gets game for you!

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy
MP servers are down of course but at least they kept the basic login stuff and the store up for early access so I went ahead and plunked another $30 in the slot machine trying to get my setups on lockdown for the 14th. Having trouble deciding on some of the hero buffs from these boxes though, like is it worth 2 slots to do the wombo combo of Health regeneration no longer has activation delay paired with +50% Health regeneration speed, or just stick with the more basic stuff like 65% Cooldown reduction.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Deakul posted:

Yes being completely ignorant towards a game's shortcomings is truly the best way to go about things.

Lmao what the gently caress dude, get ea's frothy cock out of your mouth.

Thank you, perfect impersonation of an insane person who you shouldn't listen to ranting online.

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



daslog posted:

If there isn't a server browser, how do you join games?

You call them on the phone and give them the ip adress you are trying to connect to.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
If EA and DICE were going to put all the items inside loot boxes, they might as well did what they already did with Battlefront and the Battlefield games and make big microtransactions that unlocked EVERY item and rank, and give it the same price as you'd pay for a season pass.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

in this current climate of games-makings i would advise you not preorder video games you might not want because they usually demand payment up front but ‘a company will blacklist you for chargebacks’ isn’t really some pillar of EA Moneygrubbing, it happens almost everywhere software or subscription services are involved

Sometimes I wonder if being blacklisted by EA would be a good thing.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Fuligin posted:

Honestly as long as the new maps retain the fanatical fidelity of the previous games and the general sense of mad chaos, I'm in. I like my Red Orchestras and PUBGs as much as the next guy, but sometimes I just want a Star Wars game I can tool around in while blazed out of my mind. Did they keep Walker Assault? That was actually a pretty fun mode, once they got the balance in an okay place.

The game is heavily objective based now, with 3 of the 5 modes being all about it. Walker assault is Galactic assault now, and it's a variety of different things depending on the map and stage of the map.

So you might escort the ATAT through a few map phases, and whatever it's health % is when it gets to the end is how many spawns you get to do capture and hold on the control room. Most objectives are a variation on the attacking team having to blow a thing up, stand in a certain place for a while, or escort something, but it's used a variety of ways and generally feels pretty exciting and dramatic.

Dogfighting is sort of gone and replaced with space ship objective modes that work like the above, generally a sequence of blowing up different things in tricky to reach places. Theres frequently a door that opens for 20 seconds or so so you've got to zoom your fighter into an enclosed and shoot at something before escaping. This mode is brilliant.

Theres also strike, which is tiny assault and mostly variations on capture the flag that I've seen.

I also continue to think the cards are more an issue of lovely predatory business practices rather than anything that actually breaks the game. If you can hold your nose you can enjoy the game and stomp all over people without spending money. If it bothers you on a moral level and you don't want to support it, more power to you. I just like the gameplay.

More of a concern to awful person me is how their anti cheat plays out on PC, because all signs point to "lovely"

ShineDog fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Nov 10, 2017

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

teh_Broseph posted:

MP servers are down of course but at least they kept the basic login stuff and the store up for early access so I went ahead and plunked another $30 in the slot machine trying to get my setups on lockdown for the 14th. Having trouble deciding on some of the hero buffs from these boxes though, like is it worth 2 slots to do the wombo combo of Health regeneration no longer has activation delay paired with +50% Health regeneration speed, or just stick with the more basic stuff like 65% Cooldown reduction.

If this is real lol

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
teh_Broseph demonstrating Speech 100 itt.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


ShineDog posted:

More of a concern to awful person me is how their anti cheat plays out on PC, because all signs point to "lovely"

Agreed. I'm really hoping I don't jump into a map on launch day only to get one shotted by someone standing in a building on the opposite side of the map. I know I ran into at least one in beta.

Bonby
Jan 13, 2008

Annoying Dog
I chose to get this on PS4 thanks to a amazon canada discount. Cod ww2 is a hot mess right now and I need another online shooter.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Knifegrab posted:

If this is real lol

I'm not sure if these specifically are real, but generally the hero buffs are much bigger than the normal buffs from what I've seen. Part of a pattern, if it's something like a core classes weapon it'll be smaller. If it's a short term ability or call in class it'll be bigger

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Posting from work to say I just filed a vacation day for 11/17.


Battlefront 2 marathon next Friday baby!!!

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
I feel bad for those who just buy these games for campaign because those modes don't get as much attention nowadays, whereas multiplayer only games like Overwatch, COD, PUBG, EA Battlefront 1 are where everyone's at. It also doesn't help that it's going to be so short, it could be interesting but then you forget they have to balance the production time between story and multiplayer modes, and seeing how much players just focus on MP, they spend more time focusing on that (and loot boxes).

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Knifegrab posted:

If this is real lol

You know it’s real for many... many people.

:smith:

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


The notion of having to either supergrind or plunk down for the heroes seems like total horseshit, but maybe it won't seem like a big deal when I get my hands on the game.

E: or is that another fake thing? I'm way too gullible for this....

Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 10, 2017

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
They are expensive, but just in the few hours I've been playing I've hit 10000 twice and purchased back down so while its still, again, lovely it's probably not going to mean you never see these characters.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
The preorder bonus was poo poo for Rey and Kylo Ren, are you actually able to use those two right at the start or will they cost a lot to actually use?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Cinnamon Bear posted:

The preorder bonus was poo poo for Rey and Kylo Ren, are you actually able to use those two right at the start or will they cost a lot to actually use?

Yeah they chose those two characters because everyone has them.

Like to be clear, heroes are expensive to unlock but that is only for the sake of variety. I believe everyone has access to at least two heroes per side in any game type right from the start. And since heroes are not era locked you'll always have something available.

Yes I know that is still stupid poo poo.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Cinnamon Bear posted:

The preorder bonus was poo poo for Rey and Kylo Ren, are you actually able to use those two right at the start or will they cost a lot to actually use?

Boba Fett, Bossk, Han Solo, Lando, Kylo Ren, Darth Maul, Rey, and Yoda are unlocked to begin with.

It's lovely the rest are locked off though

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!
Still no idea why they didn't use era-fitting heroes for the various maps. They go through all the effort of making the game look and feel like proper Star Wars... and then it goes out the door when Kylo Ren storms Kamino.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


ShineDog posted:

Boba Fett, Bossk, Han Solo, Lando, Kylo Ren, Darth Maul, Rey, and Yoda are unlocked to begin with.

It's lovely the rest are locked off though

UUUUUGGGHH guess I'm saving up for Vader and Poppa Palpy. I'm glad you have something out of the box though. Not era locking them is super weird. I feel like hero mode would have been the go to for a dream match scenario.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I would definitely prefer era-lock but whatever I guess. Not a huge deal.


Kylo Ren fighting for the droid armies pretty funny though.

moosecow333
Mar 15, 2007

Super-Duper Supermen!
My favorite is Boba Fett killing clones. I can just imagine him thinking 'Stop shooting yourself, stop rocketing yourself' the entire time he's on the field.

I also wonder if Anakin will be a hero down the line. It would be kind of weird to have him and Darth Vader fighting each other.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Didn't child Boba lose his poo poo and murder the gently caress out of a bunch of clones?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

ShineDog posted:

Didn't child Boba lose his poo poo and murder the gently caress out of a bunch of clones?

Umm... not in a movie or anything I'm pretty sure.

If you are referencing some comic or something then lol.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Bud, you're getting real into this dumb spinoff, perhaps sneer less about other dumb spinoffs?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I was honestly confused for a second that you could consider that "sneering" or actually offensive in any way until I remembered I was in Games.

It's ok man, we cool.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I will say something positive, and that is that I hope Finn is fun to play and I am looking forward to his inclusion. And free DLC including single player content is nice.

Also, I guess the reason I couldn't get a refund was because I had waited too long at it was literally the exact day/time that my system had just begun its automatic download (without my realizing it). Whoops!

How are Hero Ships handled in Starfighter mode? Do you have to unlock them like regular heroes with credits also before they become available?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Cinnamon Bear posted:

I will say something positive, and that is that I hope Finn is fun to play and I am looking forward to his inclusion. And free DLC including single player content is nice.

Also, I guess the reason I couldn't get a refund was because I had waited too long at it was literally the exact day/time that my system had just begun its automatic download (without my realizing it). Whoops!

How are Hero Ships handled in Starfighter mode? Do you have to unlock them like regular heroes with credits also before they become available?

Yep it’s the same.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
All hero ships are unlocked to begin with, so it's just a case of getting points for them in a match.

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!
How the hell are Tie Defenders and B-wings not available as sub heroes like the flame troopers and super battledroids? They already have the models from battlefront 1!

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
thank GOD Bossk is unlocked

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Even noted corporate whores Gamespot think the crate system is poo poo

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-battlefront-2-microtransactions-are-a-re/1100-6454825/



Bahahahaha watch the video. This is some exploitative poo poo. Class level is based on how good your cards are. So stuff being locked behind class level is meaningless if you drop a wad of cash on the game.

Raged fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Nov 11, 2017

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Pops Mgee posted:

How the hell are Tie Defenders and B-wings not available as sub heroes like the flame troopers and super battledroids? They already have the models from battlefront 1!

Actually you know yeah that's a pretty good point. The lack of sub-hero purchases in Starfighter Assault is kind of awkward and both of those would be good ones.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Do you have to buy heroes via credits outside of a MP match before you can to buy/play them in the match after earning enough points? Does that make sense?

That news about the Last Jedi DLC made it seem like you had to buy Fin and Phasma For Honor style before I can play as them in MOP

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

omg chael crash posted:

Do you have to buy heroes via credits outside of a MP match before you can to buy/play them in the match after earning enough points? Does that make sense?

That news about the Last Jedi DLC made it seem like you had to buy Fin and Phasma For Honor style before I can play as them in MOP

Yeah I got clarification about that a little further up, its kind of unbelievable. On top of needing star cards and poo poo for them you aren't even allowed to play the most popular characters. Also, according to the Reddit the Single-Player Campaign character costs 20,000 to unlock, or ~4 Trooper loot crates. Vader costs 60,000 (12 crates). I'm afraid of what they'll cost the new characters as.

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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
What is even better is that you can get the cards from loot boxes even though you can't unlock the character.The loot boxes here are just slightly less predatory than the worst IOS F2P games.

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