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Kavak posted:Yoko Taro writes the New Gods?
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 00:34 |
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Yunlihn posted:The final boss shall be a rhythm battle against Yoko Taro himself, while Caim and Angelus make a cameo as a secret boss fight, just to kill you to death. Secret Boss Caim would unironically own. Let him be the Demifiend of the Drakenier franchise.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 00:53 |
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Kind of odd to think that only now, in the fifth game of this franchise, does it have a character with enough widespread recognizability to be called a mascot.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 01:04 |
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DanielCross posted:Kind of odd to think that only now, in the fifth game of this franchise, does it have a character with enough widespread recognizability to be called a mascot. Yolo Taro's been around longer than that.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 01:39 |
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This is like the first time in YT’s entire life that he’s found financial success Bless that butt
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 01:45 |
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DanielCross posted:Kind of odd to think that only now, in the fifth game of this franchise, does it have a character with enough widespread recognizability to be called a mascot. Just a shame he killed off the most recognizable character halfway through the game. But no seriously, what happened in the A2 ending?
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 01:57 |
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Yunlihn posted:Caim and Angelus make a cameo as a secret boss fight, just to kill you to death. Please. Caim kills you far harder than that chump rear end Death. He killed that idiot to prove it.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 02:41 |
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Kirby's new friend Emil All I can imagine right now is Kirby pulling out his microphone power to wipe out a group of stubbies while Emil watches followed by Emil activating his car's loudspeaker and nuking the forest kingdom.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 03:07 |
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Loved the game. Love ids play throughs. But i didn't like the story as much as that in nier. Papa, kaine and emil were just far stronger characters. Emil in nier obviously.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 04:25 |
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RareAcumen posted:Also there's the fact that Kirby swallows his enemies whole to gain their powers. I can't help but feel like that's just glossed over a lot of the time. It's okay, it's obvious his body is a vessel for the souls of those he consumes. How else do you think he was able to spawn Helpers in Super Star? He creates for them new bodies using the energy of the powers he steals, and slaves their wills to his own. In Ally Star, he's learned how to externalize the latter effect to skip the eating step entirely. EDIT: Aw snap I just realized, the Yoko Taro version of the Computer Virus boss would be tight as hell. EDIT2: Come to think of it, Kirby loves doing shooter segments, too. Granted, Kirby prefers side-scrolling shooters, but I think the dark lord can manage. EclecticTastes fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Mar 13, 2018 |
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Schwartzcough posted:But no seriously, what happened in the A2 ending? A2 dies, and 9S presumably dies 'cause the Pods messed up. Evidence: If you get ending C after D, you still get the dialogue from the Pods that says that all YoRHa black boxes are confirmed offline. It really is the "everyone dies, the end, no moral" ending. alexminor posted:Loved the game. Love ids play throughs. But i didn't like the story as much as that in nier. Papa, kaine and emil were just far stronger characters. Emil in nier obviously. I dunno, there's some pretty strong showings here. I'd call NieR and Automata pretty consistent with how well they do their protagonists. 2B's deal is subtle but solid, and 9S especially has a truly impressive character arc, strongly written and delivered fantastically by his actor. A2, however, was pretty undercooked, for how good what little dialogue she gets is. They really needed to have had her show up more in route A/B, establishing a bit more threat and a bit more mystique. Having her finally become playable ought to have felt more like, say, when Zero finally became full-time playable in the Mega Man X series. Except way more morbid.
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alexminor posted:Loved the game. Love ids play throughs. But i didn't like the story as much as that in nier. Papa, kaine and emil were just far stronger characters. Emil in nier obviously. Absolutely agreed. 2B and A2 just feel lifeless, and not in a good way. 9S is well-acted, but incredibly unlikeable. To steal a turn of phrase from Pratchett, 9S has charisn'tma. The scene where 9S literally trips on 2B's sword is hilarious though. It's the anime equivalent to the Peter Griffin banging his knee and spending way too long reacting to it, only funny.
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Mazed posted:A2, however, was pretty undercooked, for how good what little dialogue she gets is. They really needed to have had her show up more in route A/B, establishing a bit more threat and a bit more mystique. Having her finally become playable ought to have felt more like, say, when Zero finally became full-time playable in the Mega Man X series. Except way more morbid. This is made worse by the fact that she readily draws comparisons to Kaine and Zero, two of the best-developed characters in games.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 14:45 |
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My game had problems connecting to online through the entire game so I was stuck at those credits for HOURS and not getting help requests or player messages until it finally worked, so I guess my experience was somewhat different than intended. I heard that chorus A LOT. And what's worse, I didn't erase my save because I wanted to get the remaining endings first, but had to sell the game shortly after since I was flat broke. I'm not an rear end in a top hat, honest!
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 15:13 |
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DanielCross posted:Kind of odd to think that only now, in the fifth game of this franchise, does it have a character with enough widespread recognizability to be called a mascot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDL3Q86ofY&t=21s We had one all along.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 17:59 |
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Speaking of that 'All Yorha blackboxes confirmed offline' line, I choose to believe that the Pods forgot about the drugged out Yorha at the oil fields and the one just enjoying the oasis. The scanner in the library is absolutely dead though, gently caress that guy.
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 18:26 |
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I'd say that Nier 1 overall has a better cast of characters, while Nier Automata has a better overall story. Nier 1 leans on its core cast to create compelling writing - the main story is actually pretty simple despite the Yoko Taro-ness of everything involved. Automata creates a far more unique and incredibly interesting world, and the way the story goes off the rails in the second half is amazing, but while doing so it forgets to give enough nuance to A2 and, to a lesser degree, 2B (her character is super interesting but only becomes so when you reach the end of the game and find out the 2E origins).
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# ? Mar 13, 2018 19:37 |
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I feel like the first Nier had higher highs and lower lows than this game. The main cast of the first game got to interact with each other a lot more, and their connection to the world felt more genuine than in this one. On the other hand, I feel like the plot of this game holds up better when all is said and done. The big plot twists of the first Nier (things Iike the shades backstories in each area, Devola's and Popola's actions making literally no sense) just felt like cheap gotcha moments. Automata on the other hand feels a lot more natural with regards to the machines and Yorha being a front. I can't think of any character in this game who's actions plain didn't make sense, while a big part of the first game's plot only worked if Devola, Popola and Noir all did things that made no sense.
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Momomo posted:I feel like the first Nier had higher highs and lower lows than this game. The main cast of the first game got to interact with each other a lot more, and their connection to the world felt more genuine than in this one. On the other hand, I feel like the plot of this game holds up better when all is said and done. The big plot twists of the first Nier (things Iike the shades backstories in each area, Devola's and Popola's actions making literally no sense) just felt like cheap gotcha moments. Automata on the other hand feels a lot more natural with regards to the machines and Yorha being a front. I can't think of any character in this game who's actions plain didn't make sense, while a big part of the first game's plot only worked if Devola, Popola and Noir all did things that made no sense. I gotta agree. I liked the dysfunctional crew of the original more, but the fact that every single act ended up breaking the world even worse got tiresome after a while. Here, it seems like things are going wrong, but for reasons outside of the cast. It's more of a shock to learn that you're being actively mislead by forces greater than you than it is to learn that you killed yet another adorable child that just happened to look like a mass of shadows.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 00:16 |
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While Nier 1 had more 'highs' overall I felt like the 9S stuff in Route C hit harder than anything in Nier 1. Which is saying something, because a lot of stuff in Nier 1 hit really drat hard.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 02:47 |
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Since Drakengard’s theme was “terrible people save the world”, Nier’s was “good people doom the world” and this game’s theme seemed to lean more toward “good and bad are subjective and so is saving the world”, it’s not too surprising that the Nier crew would be more likable.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 04:23 |
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Nier's story definitely frustrated me more Especially the whole Noir/Popola/Devola angle
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 11:29 |
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I’m the type who always prefers strong characters and a downplayed story to weaker characters but a more cohesive narrative. Like it’s not even a knock on Automata. It’s an amazing game but Taro couldn’t quite make the lightning strike twice when it comes to creating the main cast. I just cared about the Nier 1 guys and rooted for them much more so than anybody in Automata.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 14:29 |
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Imagine if Nier died mid game and the rest of the game was Emil and Kaine trying to kill eachother over a disagreement how to handle the shades
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 14:43 |
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I think the weakness of characterisation has a lot to do with 2A's lack of time. I think we should have shifted to an earlier point in her timeline after 2B's death, or at least seen the aftermath of A2's existence more as 2B/9s and got to experience more time with lonely murderhobo A2 so that the introduction of the pod/2B's influence had more contrast and build-up.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:03 |
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2B and A2 seemed to already know each other, or know what they were both famous for, before we get to see them interact for real.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:11 |
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I believe the supplementary material covers why that is. Not sure if Id will post about it or if I should mention it.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 15:31 |
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I would've liked 2B to get a bit more alone time most of all. Flesh out her thoughts and views a bit more when they're not being expressed through her relationship with 9S
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 16:44 |
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The LP is over. There's nothing else I'm posting. Couldn't get permission from the dude that translated that stuff and frankly, I think most of the supplementary material is kinda whatever this go around so meh. Hey the guy who came up with all the real lovely parts of YoRHa was the original Scanner unit 9S was based off of! He was a huge dick. He also immediately died as soon he kicked off things because he was a moron. 9S got killed so many times that he hacked himself so he could use a sword as Scanners don't usually get a weapon because ????. 9S and 2B got killed by A2 a few times! None of it is very interesting and is mostly kinda just redundant. vvv That one is alright. The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Mar 14, 2018 |
# ? Mar 14, 2018 17:34 |
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The one novella I really love is the one that tells the story of the android stationed on the actual moonbase because I feel it adds to the worldbuilding a lot. The rest are kinda inconsequential
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 17:38 |
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Is the android in the moonbase one of the cool stoner ones. What's the new stage play hinting at about the dark side of the earth where all the boy androids are
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 17:47 |
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There's a lot of good supplementary material. Don't listen to some random jackass and check it out for yourself.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 17:56 |
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DarkID is The Yoko Taro ambassador , if it wasn't for him I'd have open my copy of Drakengard 2. Maybe one day I'll check out the short stories but like I don't want to waste my time either V > Oh thanks this looks nice
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:04 |
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https://theark.wiki/w/Welcome
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:04 |
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He can arbit these nuts. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:05 |
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Anyway, I'm closing this thread tomorrow before we get more quality posters like this loving dipshit above. Say your piece and move on.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:30 |
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woah 9S
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:33 |
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My piece is that NieR:Automata is a good game.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:37 |
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Just getting in before the end to say like so many others that I picked up this game because of this LP. Ending E finally made me give in.
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:39 |
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The Dark Id posted:Anyway, I'm closing this thread tomorrow before we get more quality posters like this loving dipshit above. Say your piece and move on. If the horrible secret gets revealed, can you reopen the thread just to post it?
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# ? Mar 14, 2018 18:41 |