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MaoistBanker posted:Oh, he'll be better than a 4th liner on Vancouver - he was the top line center with Pearson and Toffoli in Manchester. I just meant that was his place on the Kings with their center depth. I'm a big fan of Vey. I haven't seen much of him other than that time he dangled through our entire team, but he's a playmaking winger and we desperately needed one. I would've like McKeown or a skilled forward like Donato, but I can live with Vey. Verviticus seems to want to kill himself though.
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Verviticus posted:well he just traded a real asset for a 4th liner named after trevor linden This is hfboards quality posting right here, where a mid 2nd round pick is a real asset and a 22 year old NHL-ready forward who was close to PPG in the AHL is just a 4th liner
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the goalie the rangers just picked only played 19 games this year lmao apparently he's a great puckhandler and as such is the Antiqvist
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ThinkTank posted:I haven't seen much of him other than that time he dangled through our entire team, but he's a playmaking winger and we desperately needed one. I would've like McKeown or a skilled forward like Donato, but I can live with Vey. its just slow bleeding. they cant make a good decision to save their loving lives i mean one second round pick isnt a big deal, except they got that 2nd because they forced a good player to leave town. and they paid a poo poo pick for the honour. and they drafted a goalie with the previous pick, and the pick before etc
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Jun 28, 2014 15:48
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To clarify: Vey isn't a 4th line center. He's projected to be a great 3C or even good 2C. The problem was that the Kings aren't going to be able to put him in this position to get meaningful playing time (IE, the Brayden Schenn conundrum) for several years so they traded him.
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Jun 28, 2014 15:49
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2nd round by country: USA: 11 Canada: 8 
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MaoistBanker posted:To clarify: Vey isn't a 4th line center. He's projected to be a great 3C or even good 2C. The problem was that the Kings aren't going to be able to put him in this position to get meaningful playing time (IE, the Brayden Schenn conundrum) for several years so they traded him. guess we'll see! shouldnt be loving hard to beat out nick bonino
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gently caress taking a goalie in the 2nd round goddamn
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put it this way. last week if you said "hey, the best thing the canucks will do is draft jake virtanen at 6 OA, and dont worry, they'll make at least three trades", i wouldnt have believed that was possible.
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Levitate posted:gently caress taking a goalie in the 2nd round goddamn end of the 2nd round is a crapshoot anyway, there wasn't anything else exceptional on the board. i liked the finnish goalies better than the one we picked though.
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Jun 28, 2014 15:52
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Levitate posted:gently caress taking a goalie in the 2nd round goddamn elite athleticism and puckhandling. congrats on the next brodeur
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Jun 28, 2014 15:52
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I'm excited that the Jackets took a guy in the first whose name sounds like that of a Made Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW3LikcBL68
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Jun 28, 2014 15:53
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I like the NHL draft because of the intangibles - if past history is to be believed chances are good that 2 or 3 future all-stars are still sitting in their seats.
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MaoistBanker posted:I like the NHL draft because of the intangibles - if past history is to be believed chances are good that 2 or 3 future all-stars are still sitting in their seats. yup. (detroit will get all of them)
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I think that Roland McKeown will develop well on the Kings, or they will at least be able to hide him effectively. Of course he is nevertheless a Frontenac and thus doomed to failure.
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I consider myself a fairly pessimistic Canucks fan, but I'd like to officially distance myself from Verviticus' comments. We're rebuilding, no one should expect this team to make the playoffs in the next few seasons. I don't like much of what Benning has done so far, but he has finally committed this team to a rebuild. Taking risks on high skilled forwards and hoping they can translate to the NHL is a decent idea. A late 2nd round pick has maybe a 40% chance of even playing a single game in the NHL, Vey has proven to be a capable AHLer he was just lost in the shuffle in LA. He's played in the NHL and will do so again this year in Vancouver. That's probably good value. People really overvalue draft picks. This isn't the NBA where you're selecting players to step into your lineup.
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pretty surprising that brayden point is still on the board, no? he was projected as a first rounder for most of this year
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ThinkTank posted:Vey has proven to be a capable AHLer he was just lost in the shuffle in LA. He's played in the NHL and will do so again this year in Vancouver. Let's just say this, I'd be much more confident at having former King Linden Vey in my lineup than former King Brad Richardson.
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Verviticus posted:jason garrison got run out of town for trevor linden's long lost son linden vey is probably the second or third best prospect on the canucks as of now. he's better than nick jensen in literally every way
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What the gently caress we took a Russian defenceman. A 20 year old 6'6" 240lb russian defenceman with no offence. Okay I loving hate this pick. Stop doing this it never loving works.
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Jun 28, 2014 15:57
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hahaha and just as we're talking, they draft an almost 20 year old 6'6 defenceman i rest my loving case
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Hey the Wings got a pick from Columbus and drafted a guy named Turgeon, yaaaaaay!
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So how many sons of NHLers does that make? Nylander Kapanen Lemiuex Macinnis Turgeon
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Oh hell ya we got Barbashev at 33. And another Russian with our 2nd 2nd roudner 
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i just looked at brayden point's numbers and im pretty sure he scored way more than anyone else still available. even if there's something legitimate in his game that has him falling this far he's a good choice at this stage. fall to the rangers or isles please is there a decent draft tracker online anywhere that's actually live because it takes forever for them to get around to the picks on tv and it's really stupid that they dont have a thing on the side of the screen or something
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Thatcher Demko's favorite goalie is Dan Cloutier OH MY GOD THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO WELL SORRY CAS I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID
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Verviticus posted:hahaha and just as we're talking, they draft an almost 20 year old 6'6 defenceman I cannot defend that. I have no loving idea. Brayden Point was on the board.
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Benning went on record as saying that the canucks qre not trying to rebuild but instead are trying to get NHL ready assets to allow them to be competitive. I don't hate the trade for linden vey but trying to have it both ways and get youthful high upside players who can help you compete in the playoffs at the same time is not really a feasible thing and trying to ride the fence like that has probably doomed more teams in all the major sports than any other kind of mistake
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Aye Doc posted:Benning went on record as saying that the canucks qre not trying to rebuild but instead are trying to get NHL ready assets to allow them to be competitive. This is lip service and nothing more. Tickets aren't selling.
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its an insanely hard line to tread between having all the kids, doing badly to get a good player, and then having all the kids simultaneously turn into players, and its a lot better to do it with picks because you have way more wiggle room with elcs and waivers and stuff
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ThinkTank posted:What the gently caress we took a Russian defenceman. the canucks have had pretty good success with off the board euros. this is a lot better than insert_OHL_overager
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ThinkTank posted:This is lip service and nothing more. Tickets aren't selling. hahah just wait until he signs ryan miller and dave bolland
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If it were just lip service I think the Canucks wouldn't be targeting Ryan Miller and Dave Bolland while acquiring every second and third line forward they can find
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please don't pick point jersey
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Mr. Kite posted:2nd round by country: Best at being second!
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the talent deficit posted:the canucks have had pretty good success with off the board euros. this is a lot better than insert_OHL_overager Brayden Point had nearly twice as many point as the second highest scoring player on his team. He is still falling because he's 5'9". Big Russian man will never step onto an NHL ice surface.
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obviously i act the role of being outraged at every single thing when really its more of a slow burn, but i really think benning is an idiot and its depressing that hes going to drag linden through the muck until everyone hates them both
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ThinkTank posted:Brayden Point had nearly twice as many point as the second highest scoring player on his team. He is still falling because he's 5'9". Big Russian man will never step onto an NHL ice surface. prospect camps are held on nhl ice surfaces!
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Hey, wanna know what youngsters think of playing in Vancouver? (As if yesterday didn't make it obvious enough) “Hopefully I can appeal to fans up there, make them love me instead of hate me.” -- Thatcher Demko
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MaoistBanker posted:Hey, wanna know what youngsters think of playing in Vancouver? (As if yesterday didn't make it obvious enough) Well at least it's better than "I never thought I’d be a Vancouver Canuck and it is what it is." oh boy Also lol http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=123119
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