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Jul 25, 2017 05:10
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Sir Kodiak posted:You try standing in the middle of a ball of lightning in a thin layer of spandex and see how you like it. IIRC from some earlier promo shots of how he'll look in Justice League and some rumors it was surmised that he will have more than one outfit in the movie as they work out what materials he can wear that won't like instantly ignite when he moves super fast but also be slightly protective. The other was that he needs to wear some extra protective stuff while time travelling and the time travelling only lets him pop up for a few seconds like we see in BvS so that his abilities won't break the movie. Like a way to sort of take some of his abilities out of the picture like Quicksilver in Days of Future Past but without having to actually lose the character.
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Jul 25, 2017 05:22
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https://twitter.com/vaoaoga/status/889686574840946688Mr. Apollo posted:Isn't that how he appears in the comics, with his black suit, after he returns from the dead? He only came back with a mullet  However, Superbro did sport a sweet beard for a while   And later on, when they brought back the Post Crisis Superman, they gave him a beard to differentiate him from Superbro 
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Jul 25, 2017 05:27
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Neo Rasa posted:IIRC from some earlier promo shots of how he'll look in Justice League and some rumors it was surmised that he will have more than one outfit in the movie as they work out what materials he can wear that won't like instantly ignite when he moves super fast but also be slightly protective. The other was that he needs to wear some extra protective stuff while time travelling and the time travelling only lets him pop up for a few seconds like we see in BvS so that his abilities won't break the movie. Like a way to sort of take some of his abilities out of the picture like Quicksilver in Days of Future Past but without having to actually lose the character. Yeah, the DC movies have been thoughtful about building a coherent Justice League. Superman has quick reflexes and is getting faster, but can't do tricks where he stops time and does whatever he wants. The Flash is closer to being that fast, but shoots lightning everywhere and wrecks his surroundings. Wonder Woman is tough, but not bulletproof. Aquaman and Cyborg we haven't seen much of, but they don't exactly need to have their powers kept in check.
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Jul 25, 2017 05:28
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SleepCousinDeath posted:
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Jul 25, 2017 05:55
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Neo Rasa posted:They were shooting stuff for Return of the King literally three weeks before the movie hit theaters and it won Best Picture for 2004. LOL comparing this mess to Peter Jackson's Return of the King
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Jul 25, 2017 14:26
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The LOTR movies are bad, so yeah, lol
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Jul 25, 2017 14:28
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The LOTR movies are bad, so yeah, lol 
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Jul 25, 2017 14:42
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Return of the King is definitely the kind of movie that is amazing in a packed theater on opening night but then you watch it again a couple of years later and
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Jul 25, 2017 14:47
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The LOTR movies are bad, so yeah, lol It's not as amazing as Logan I'll give you that
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Jul 25, 2017 15:41
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This trailer has me pretty worried. It feels like it's gonna be one of those superhero movies where 90% of the runtime is "getting the gang together", all culminating in an unsatisfying showdown with a shoddy CGI monstrosity.
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Jul 25, 2017 15:56
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I hope it introduces the League with a multi-song montage + title cards.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:02
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That single title card in BvS was awesome and I wish they kept it up throughout the movie.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:08
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Neo Rasa posted:They were shooting stuff for Return of the King literally three weeks before the movie hit theaters and it won Best Picture for 2004.  I'm pretty oblivious and thick to most symbolism in movies but I'm assuming this  and this  aren't coincidental.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:16
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BvS was basically an entry in a 'recreate as many classic paintings as possible' contest, so shouldn't be surprising.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:52
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Basebf555 posted:This trailer has me pretty worried. It feels like it's gonna be one of those superhero movies where 90% of the runtime is "getting the gang together", all culminating in an unsatisfying showdown with a shoddy CGI monstrosity. The shoddy CGI monstrosity at least is probably a given considering Doomsday.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:56
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The logical end boss would be a resurrected brainwashed Superman.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:58
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Inescapable Duck posted:The logical end boss would be a resurrected brainwashed Superman. Hes the hardmode raid variant. DC is trying to differentiate itself from Marvel by requiring less people to raid while marvel is still in the 40 man or get the gently caress out model.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:12
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Inescapable Duck posted:BvS was basically an entry in a 'recreate as many classic paintings as possible' contest, so shouldn't be surprising.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:14
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Mr. Apollo posted:I never thought about it like that but yeah I can see that. Especially the shot of Bruce, Diana, and Lois after the death of Clark. someone post the scene of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lois lane holding Supermans body at the end of BvS.
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Jul 25, 2017 20:03
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Jerk McJerkface posted:someone post the scene of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lois lane holding Supermans body at the end of BvS. 
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Jul 25, 2017 20:46
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Almost as dark as a Grand Manner painting.
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Jul 25, 2017 20:50
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Mr. Apollo posted:This? The crosses are a nice touch. Yes, there's also a stunning scene where they Batman hands him down. The screencap you posted is a really dark frame, but there's better looking snaps right around that one.
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Jul 25, 2017 21:11
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Yes, there's also a stunning scene where they Batman hands him down. The screencap you posted is a really dark frame, but there's better looking snaps right around that one. 
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Jul 25, 2017 21:52
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The Hobbit movies are bad, so yeah, lol Fix't
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Jul 25, 2017 21:59
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Inescapable Duck posted:The logical end boss would be a resurrected brainwashed Superman. I thought the rumors were that this was actually correct, and that a major focus of the film was going to be an evil Superman who believed Lois was killed in the Doomsday fight and blamed Batman for it. Then, when the negative reviews for BvS came in, they altered the story to greatly reduce (or eliminate) the evil Superman bit. And that the reshoots include in part more scenes showing Superman returning and being hopeful. It's all probably made-up donkey talk, but who knows. I'm guessing that Clark returns somewhere during the film but wants to live his life in peace with Lois? But realizes Superman is needed and that's him returning and talking to Alfred at the end? Who knows.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:52
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I really hate "Lois dies and Superman is now evil" stories.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:53
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DLC Inc posted:It's not as amazing as Logan I'll give you that Logan is also bad. It's a very dull cinematic experience. The LOTR movies lack real artistic vision outside of the sheer daring of their scope, so they end up being a superbly produced but bland sword and sorcery epics. It's not aided by the fact that Jackson doesn't even carry over the few strengths of Tolkien's passable novel (let's be honest, Lord of the Rings is no Gormenghast), and instead concedes to the format of a cinematic epic. John Boorman's Excalibur (to force a DCEU connection) is not only the superior Lord of the Rings movie, it's also probably the superior Lord of the Rings story in any medium. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Jul 25, 2017 22:57
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An evil Superman would have been dumb anyway. No need to justify Bruce's position in Batman v Superman because it was toxic and bad. If you're script makes people "maybe Bruce was right in Batman v Superman" then you hosed up. Also don't need more xenophobia in the world. It's why I dislike the whole Injustice storyline and all the praise those two games get, especially from people who criticized these films' depiction of Superman. Because apparently him killing Zod was terrible but him murdering other villains and imposing totalitarian fascism is really awesome compelling stuff. What?
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Jul 25, 2017 22:58
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Jimbot posted:If you're script makes people "maybe Bruce was right in Batman v Superman" then you hosed up. I'd say that's a viewer error rather than a script error. Some folks have been flailing their arms about blaming Superman for the collateral damage during his fight with Zod, for God's sake. You can't fix that level of brokebrainness, only regularly remind people that believing such nonsense is implicitly ignorant and misguided. It's the core of BvS hate, after all: the most ignorant and misguided of them all realizes he was wrong, he failed Superman, and they didn't like it. Expect a lot of angst from those people when they watch the movie and the in-universe people treat it as appropriately good, hopeful thing that Superman is back. I mean, they'll never admit it, but whatever.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:02
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I don't know if you're aware of this but over in the Comic Book Thread we literally have a poster saying that killing 2/3rds of the world's population is "actually right if you think about it" In other words you can't blame the movie for what people take from it. There's always a percentage that takes every satire straight, empathizes and sides with the bad guy no matter how monstrous he/she is, etc. etc. etc.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:03
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Has there been any suggestions for what Flash could have meant with his time travel warning if it wasn't about evil Superman?quote:Bruce! Listen to me right now! It’s Lois! Lois Lane! She’s the key! Am I too soon!? I'm too soon! You were right about him! You were always right about him! Fear him! Fear him and find us. You have to come find us, Bruce! Obviously within BvS, fearing Superman makes sense. But it seems like an obvious creative choice to leave "Superman" or "Clark" out of his message when that would have made it a lot simpler for everyone. It doesn't seem like Steppenwolf would come to earth and be welcomed as a hero but actually be a villain, but is there anyone else that could be a turncoat related to Lois?
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Jul 25, 2017 23:04
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Superman being a hopeful figure for the story's universe but an ambivalent one for the audience causes a disconnect and prevents immersion, and is thus Good.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:05
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Violator posted:Obviously within BvS, fearing Superman makes sense. The whole point of BvS was that, no, it's not. There's not a fear-Superman character in that movie who isn't chastened by that viewpoint, in the end. Except the main villain, whose madness is best defined by the fact that he fears Superman. Remember the Capitol building scene. Be the cute blonde in the Superman t-shirt. Don't be the pale Skrillex-looking dude with anti-Superman paraphernalia. There is no difference between the fear-Superman mentality, both in and out of universe. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Jul 25, 2017 23:08
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Violator posted:Has there been any suggestions for what Flash could have meant with his time travel warning if it wasn't about evil Superman? My guess is that Superman needs to be a symbol of hope for the would-be Justice League to rally around. The public can say what they will about the guy, but his example is what caused Bruce and Diana to believe in people again and get motivated to put the League together.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:10
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Jimbot posted:An evil Superman would have been dumb anyway. No need to justify Bruce's position in Batman v Superman because it was toxic and bad. If you're script makes people "maybe Bruce was right in Batman v Superman" then you hosed up. Also don't need more xenophobia in the world. It's why I dislike the whole Injustice storyline and all the praise those two games get, especially from people who criticized these films' depiction of Superman. Injustice explicitly presents Superman as the villain though. That's the whole point of it. Nobody's saying that they're compelling because they finally got Superman right... quote:don't know if you're aware of this but over in the Comic Book Thread we literally have a poster saying that killing 2/3rds of the world's population is "actually right if you think about it" ...Apart from that lunatic apparently.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:10
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:(let's be honest, Lord of the Rings is no Gormenghast) You're full of surprises Lamps.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:10
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MisterBibs posted:The whole point of BvS was that, no, it's not. There's not a fear-Superman character in that movie who isn't chastened by that viewpoint, in the end. Except the main villain, whose madness is best defined by the fact that he fears Superman. Ah, I meant from Batman's perspective at the time he saw the Flash. Batman already hates Superman so the Flash's message makes sense at that point to him, but could the Flash have been talking about someone else that would be readily apparent without Batman's feelings about Superman clouding his perspective?
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Jul 25, 2017 23:12
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Injustice explicitly presents Superman as the villain though. That's the whole point of it. Nobody's saying that they're compelling because they finally got Superman right... I think compelling was the wrong choice of words. "Interesting" is probably better. I guess Superman only works in extremes for some people. Paragon of absolute pure goodness with no flaws or Absolute Evil Tyrant.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:12
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Violator posted:could the Flash have been talking about someone else that would be readily apparent without Batman's feelings about Superman clouding his perspective? I figured that was rather obvious and blatant. Dude is crazy and thus fears Superman, misreads a partial message that seems to justify his madness, will eventually learn Flash was talking about someone else.
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Jul 25, 2017 23:15
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