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What a waste of "Do You Realize??" This film felt rope-a-dope.The scenes in Rocket's past were all cagey. Rocket should have spent more time in present day with the crew working through the trauma with his family rather than thematically jumping into an emotional Hyberbolic Time Chamber to blow through it all by himself. I like Gunn highlighting banal cruelty everywhere (Nathan Fillion). Too many of the needle drops fell flat without any inspiring visuals to marry the two into some catharsis. The heisting wasn't memorable and it the movie in general was way too long. The hallway oner didn't stick with me. And did anyone else notice how much they used motion controlled cameras just for very slick camera movement gags? I actually loved this part of the film. The would be using the rig (forget its name) for simple camera reveals for punchlines or a gag, and it was so slick I kept realizing after the fact that they were using it again and again for dialogue scenes. And the final scene with Rocket and the rabid animals, I don't know how that clashes with the film's message at all.
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I like how Knowhere is established as a home base for the Guardians and a sanctuary for whoever wants to be there. And with how Nebula ends being in charge of it I'd like to see more of it and her rule. Make a D+ special or something.
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May 8, 2023 14:11
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stev posted:Yeah this one actually got me quite a bit. The screaming was incredibly loud and realistic. there are alot of those moments in that movie. Bad Seafood posted:Yeah, I picked up where they were going with it, it just felt oddly framed in the moment. It follows thematically too, so it's not out of nowhere, it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way in practice. yeah i understand. normally that trope rubs me wrong too but for once it kinda worked weirdly enough. Ghost Leviathan posted:There's a fair few moments I feel are thematically fitting but the execution is a bit awkward. I suppose you could get worse, but it's definitely a bit of a theme. yeah i also didnt get a "hur status quo good and villian bad for changing it" vibe either. HE doesnt actually give a gently caress about changing anything for better for anyone, he is Reddit athiest with a god complex who managed to get enough tech and smart and help to make a bunch of frankensteins and keeps trying to mengele up a utopian race but is too stuck in his own rear end that he doesnt realize social evolution is a thing too. and it loving hurts him that some little frankenstein that he cooked up came up with a solution on their own then because of anything he did. doesnt help when he get his face ripped apart. he is probably my favorite marvel villian in a long time and honestly a good villian in general
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Felt really bad for the random Knowhere lady who had an angry monkey thrown at her face during the evacuation. Hope someone got a medpack for her face.
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AloePieceOfShit posted:Pretty funny that guardians is 3 for 3 on featuring evil dads. Fatherhood is basically the theme of the series - particularly the second film. That's one of the reasons it's my favourite MCU film - it actually has a strong theme and sticks to it until the very final frame. Pretty much every character arc and plot point in that film ties into it.
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2 came out right after I lost my father to cancer and I don't think I've ever cried harder in a movie theater.
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May 8, 2023 18:25
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Bonk posted:I was also surprised that some of the violence is exceptionally brutal: I didn't see that as played for laughs so much as indicating the "This time it's personal" for the Guardians. They're desperately trying to save Rocket and they're utterly furious at what was done to him by the H.E. and his minions.
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Everyone posted:I didn't see that as played for laughs so much as indicating the "This time it's personal" for the Guardians. They're desperately trying to save Rocket and they're utterly furious at what was done to him by the H.E. and his minions. Yeah it was an exclamation point on how Raccoon's family was horrified and insanely outraged at what happened to him. The whole film is full of moments that hit so hard because you see characters not emoting about themselves, but each other. Another near-cry moment for me was when Nebula broke down after hearing that Raccoon was ok. The team has never been fiercer or more savage than this movie, because it was about saving one of their own. This movie has really stuck with me.
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Getting shot in leg scene was played for laughs because it made me laugh lol. Brutal unexpected violence will never not be funny if done right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IdM84YVmV0
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Enjoyed this movie for the most part - kept me interested throughout. What I didn't like the was all the needle drops of classic rock songs - it worked really well in the 1st but just falls flat on it's face here for some reason. Maybe the novelty worn off? Hell, I bought the drat soundtrack on vinyl for GoTG 1 - the songs just worked really well. Credits using The Replacements was kinda nice at least - very underrated band. But that's just me enjoying the song.
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May 8, 2023 18:42
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Yeah, after they see what Rocket went through, Quill goes from "we're not killing anyone" to "kill them all" when he gets to the people responsible for it. He had zero sympathy for them and wanted them to pay for what they did.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, after they see what Rocket went through, Quill goes from "we're not killing anyone" to "kill them all" when he gets to the people responsible for it. He had zero sympathy for them and wanted them to pay for what they did. Dragging that scientist to death was particularly brutal.
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May 8, 2023 18:48
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The hallway fight scene was so loving well done. It took the style that Kingsmen started (I think?) but it didn't look like poo poo. Would love a breakdown of how they filmed/edited that. Probably the best action sequence in any Marvel thing (along with the hallway scene in Daredevil).
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May 8, 2023 19:09
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, after they see what Rocket went through, Quill goes from "we're not killing anyone" to "kill them all" when he gets to the people responsible for it. He had zero sympathy for them and wanted them to pay for what they did. You can't mess with raccoons
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May 8, 2023 19:23
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I'm disappointed that they never used "We Care a Lot" in a Venom movie, so this will have to do.
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May 8, 2023 19:24
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Bottom Liner posted:The hallway fight scene was so loving well done. It took the style that Kingsmen started (I think?) but it didn't look like poo poo. Would love a breakdown of how they filmed/edited that. Probably the best action sequence in any Marvel thing (along with the hallway scene in Daredevil). I assumed most of it was entirely CGI.
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Sure, but it blended the green screen live actors and real camera stuff so seamlessly and looked right, unlike the Kingsmen scenes that just looked like a full CGI version of the previous live action shots.
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May 8, 2023 19:45
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There were a few greenscreen shots that looked a bit poo poo. The main one I remember being the animal planet after it was destroyed.
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Ende up watching a Pitch Meeting about GotG2 and the way it ends lmao i love it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59-iTpAfQ0
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Bill Brasky posted:First use of Spacehog in a space movie that I can recall. Yeah I was kinda blown away by the 90s and 80s alternative (and one rap) songs in a GotG movie. It's great. And I guess it means that its now classic rock to zoomers.
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Shageletic posted:Ende up watching a Pitch Meeting about GotG2 and the way it ends lmao i love it: "Death is great. Hail Satan."
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Vintersorg posted:Enjoyed this movie for the most part - kept me interested throughout. What I didn't like the was all the needle drops of classic rock songs - it worked really well in the 1st but just falls flat on it's face here for some reason. Maybe the novelty worn off? Hell, I bought the drat soundtrack on vinyl for GoTG 1 - the songs just worked really well. I think that it's just that post GotG classic rock has been in every movie it seems. No matter when the movie is set or what it's doing 80s music is in everything in Hollywood and has been for the last 10 years. It felt more novel in GotG1, because it wasn't literally everywhere. But then people liked it's use in GotG1 and Hollywood, as a bunch of creatively bankrupt parasites, latched onto using it as the one size fits all music. Saw the movie today at the earliest showing they had (7:30am) and the theater was mostly empty, like I hoped. I enjoyed it. It definitely felt like a revenge rampage for a lot of it, but I kinda liked it. The Guardians don't need to be spotless heroic types, they're not Superman or Captain America. I was all for them going hard-core rampage over one of their family members.
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KittyEmpress posted:I think that it's just that post GotG classic rock has been in every movie it seems. No matter when the movie is set or what it's doing 80s music is in everything in Hollywood and has been for the last 10 years. It felt more novel in GotG1, because it wasn't literally everywhere. But then people liked it's use in GotG1 and Hollywood, as a bunch of creatively bankrupt parasites, latched onto using it as the one size fits all music. I was born in 1968 so I turned 12 in 1980, meaning the 80s music was "my" music so I'm a little more okay with "my music" showing up in a lot of places. Meanwhile even though Ego giving Quill's mom cancer was an evil thing, we had some distance from it. The other Guardians never knew Meredith Quill and even Peter had had something like 30 years to process her death (granted that he still wasn't over it). Here, the other Guardians knew and loved Rocket (in some ways especially Nebula). Even further they saw exactly what the H.E. did to Rocket even as a baby raccoon. So them being in a murderous rage over that should be completely unsurprising.
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I can immediately tell you the worst use of a 90s song cover in a Marvel movie, and it's that terrible cover of Nirvana's 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' over the opening credits of Black Widow. It's the epitome of those slow covers that get used all the time in trailers now. Just an awful choice.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I can immediately tell you the worst use of a 90s song cover in a Marvel movie, and it's that terrible cover of Nirvana's 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' over the opening credits of Black Widow. It's the epitome of those slow covers that get used all the time in trailers now. Just an awful choice. And then The Batman took an actual slow Nirvana song and used it perfectly the following year.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:movie was good, but at least one child had to be escorted from the theater while they bawled their eyes out. i get it, even for a pg-13 rating it had some sequences that is like just designed to gently caress a child up Seconding the Cosmo love. Best dog.
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Do I need to watch the Christmas special first or can I continue to skip all the direct to TV stuff?
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Speleothing posted:Do I need to watch the Christmas special first or can I continue to skip all the direct to TV stuff? I kept putting the Christmas special off and then eventually just forgot to watch it. Didn't feel like I'd missed anything except presumably Cosmo the dog's introduction
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BTW if anyone in here hasn't played it yet the Guardians of the Galaxy video game is actually pretty well written and performed, a great compliment to the movies even if it's not in the same continuity.
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Speleothing posted:Do I need to watch the Christmas special first or can I continue to skip all the direct to TV stuff? It gives you a little context for the GotG owning Knowhere. Mostly it's more of Pom Klementieff being an adorable demented gremlin as Mantis, which is reason enough to watch it.
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Speleothing posted:Do I need to watch the Christmas special first or can I continue to skip all the direct to TV stuff? You absolutely don't need to see it. Everything in it that matters is already obvious and summed up within the first few minutes of the film. And it's not very good.
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stev posted:And then The Batman took an actual slow Nirvana song and used it perfectly the following year. The song is cool and works well stylistically, but irrationally annoyed me in a "buying authenticity" sense. Something about this quintessential grunge track describing the inner state of a slumming-it billionaire just hit me way wrong. GOTG's pop tracks tend to have a different levity to them, and the setting is generally silly even if it has dark corners, but licensing Nirvana for a self-serious Batman movie was a very different exercise. I get what the Black Widow credits were going for, and the somber take on "entertain us" spoke to the sex trafficking implications, but yes: "grim, slowed-down cover of a pop song" doesn't always work. Ramin Djawadi nailed it IMO with Heart Shaped Box for S2 of Westworld, though. Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, after they see what Rocket went through, Quill goes from "we're not killing anyone" to "kill them all" when he gets to the people responsible for it. He had zero sympathy for them and wanted them to pay for what they did. They really made the High Evolutionary and his whole crew easy to hate. I haven't viscerally hated a superhero villain in a long time, maybe ever, but I guess torturing adorable animals that are also like human children accomplishes that. I get why they end it with Rocket refusing to kill him, confronting his trauma and being the better person and what-not, but if Ego or Ronan deserved to get got, the High Evolutionary really did.
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Xealot posted:The song is cool and works well stylistically, but irrationally annoyed me in a "buying authenticity" sense. Something about this quintessential grunge track describing the inner state of a slumming-it billionaire just hit me way wrong. GOTG's pop tracks tend to have a different levity to them, and the setting is generally silly even if it has dark corners, but licensing Nirvana for a self-serious Batman movie was a very different exercise. Honestly, I looked at Rocket refusing to kill the H.E. more as refusing to euthanize him and instead just leaving his evil rear end to burn in the wreckage. And that completely okay with me, much like John Wick killing dozens of people to avenge the murder of his puppy was okay with me. Also, this might make me a musical heretic, but I liked the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" cover in Black Widow better than the original.
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He survives impossible poo poo, but for normal plot armor reasons and not supernatural genre reasons. Just a guy, I'm pretty sure.
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He does not, in fact, turn into a glowing pacman and munch down on a demigod. This time.
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Xealot posted:
to me what made HE and the dipshit brigade is the Banality of evil with alot of his actions. least in the flashbacks, like post face rip, he gets more of god complex and just goes out and out rear end in a top hat, but in the beginning, i think he did "care" about rocket and the others to an lesser extent the other monsters he made, until rocket solved that issue, then rocket was no longer the cute little creature he could treat as a weird little pet and maybe keep around, now its equel and something that can outthink him possibly. also, he was already basicaly dying anyway, all rocket would have done is sped him along as a mercy. the dude had a coupler bullets and knife wounds and was probably paralyzed. all his allies were dead or fled. he was done and was gonna burn to death in couple min anyway
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The more I think about it the more the wanton animal cruelty in Guardians 3 bothers me (although I’m very sure that’s the point) and just makes me want to hug my cats. High Evolutionary is a MASSIVE piece of poo poo. Reminded me very much of the comic series We3, and no surprise, I just learned that James Gunn is a huge fan of it and has wanted to adapt it since at least 2015. Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 02:42 on May 9, 2023 |
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