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Hail, Caesar! was quite uneven, but I can overlook its flaws because there's too much great stuff overshadowing the dull parts like "No Dames", the religious council, and Hobie's retakes.fat bossy gerbil posted:The amazing thing about the Coen brothers is that they've never made a bad movie. Some of their movies are better than others and not everything they've done is a masterpiece but even at their worst they never fail to produce a decent and totally watchable movie. They're good at hiding any shortcomings with outstanding camera work and great lines.
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My only problem with Hail Caesar! was I kept wanting Brolin to be the same character from Inherent Vice. Like, the character from Hail Caesar! is somewhat similar in his demeanor, but just not quite as over the top and hilarious. I was waiting for at least one scene along the lines of "molto panakako!" and it never came. Good movie overall though.
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Hail Caesar was OK. I have no urge to ever see it again, but it was OK.
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I've seen every Coen bros movie except The Ladykillers and Hail Caesar. The latter because I just haven't gotten around to it yet, and the former because it seems to be universally panned. Should I just watch it?
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Spatulater bro! posted:I've seen every Coen bros movie except The Ladykillers and Hail Caesar. The latter because I just haven't gotten around to it yet, and the former because it seems to be universally panned. Should I just watch it? It's not terrible, it just feels kind of like someone else trying to write a Coen brothers script and doing an okay job. This probably isn't a popular opinion, but I think it's about as good as Burn After Reading.
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Tom Hanks alone makes Ladykillers watchable at least once, plus the supporting cast is decent. It'd be better after a couple drinks though.
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I haven't seen Ladykillers either but it seems like its at least a pretty eccentric Tom Hanks performance right? Might be worth watching just for that, its not every day you get to see Hanks doing something other than his typical persona. Edit: beaten
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The man really is a national treasure. Watched Bridge of Spies this week and predictably he was fantastic in it. He can pull off that Spielberg stuff better than anybody.
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The cast of The Ladykillers is fantastic. Which, in a way, makes it seem even worse because there's no excuse for having so many great actors and still being so unfunny. Being a remake of a much better film doesn't do it any favours either.
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I've heard a number of people comment about how The Thin Red Line is one of the better war movies ever made, but I found it dull and far too long. About 2 hours in I was praying a sniper would take ME out, so that I wouldn't have to watch it any longer. Stylistically Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was cool, but overall it left me cold. I know Citizen Kane is supposed to be just about the greatest film ever made, and while I agree it was groundbreaking for some of it's techniques, I still found it boring.
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You can't just recommend The Thin Red Line to somebody if you don't already know how they feel about Malick. Its a great war movie but its also pure concentrated Malick just like most of his other work.
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Or even if they don't know Malick, they need to be prepped about its philosophical and introspective nature. It's definitely a movie that needs some prefacing for the uninitiated.
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After a quick IMDB visit, I freely admit I think it's the only Malick film I've seen. Perhaps his aesthetic just isn't my thing. I am curious to see The Tree of Life.
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FrakkinCylon posted:After a quick IMDB visit, I freely admit I think it's the only Malick film I've seen. Perhaps his aesthetic just isn't my thing. I am curious to see The Tree of Life. See Badlands and Days of Heaven first.
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The Tree of Life is my favorite Malick so far - I've only seen Badlands and Days of Heaven otherwise, though.
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FrakkinCylon posted:After a quick IMDB visit, I freely admit I think it's the only Malick film I've seen. Perhaps his aesthetic just isn't my thing. I am curious to see The Tree of Life. If you were bored by The Thin Red Line definitely just don't jump right into Tree of Life. Take Egbert Spouses advice and watch one of his first two films first, they both have much more traditional narratives and are a good way to get acclimated to his style.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Monsters is a grade A piece of poo poo and I will fight any and all people who like that loving thing. It's great and more relevant today than ever before.
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Basebf555 posted:If you were bored by The Thin Red Line definitely just don't jump right into Tree of Life. Take Egbert Spouses advice and watch one of his first two films first, they both have much more traditional narratives and are a good way to get acclimated to his style. Days of Heaven feels like a 3 and a half hour movie that's been cut down to 90 minutes, but in a good way.
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The background on every A and B-lister trying to get any part at all in The Thin Red Line, only for most of them to be written out completely or almost completely from the finished film, is maybe the most Entourage thing to ever happen.
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I haven't liked an entire Tarantino movie since Jackie Brown. He does some scenes so exceptionally well but can't help add gimmicky bits throughout his movies that completely take me out of the immersion.
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Oh,I forgot one, thanks. The Hateful Eight. Hate this movie. Django I don't like that much, but there's some good in it. Honestly, Tarantino's forte into western has been pretty weird and not as cool as I imagined.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Bicycle Thieves is painfully tedious. Magic Hate Ball posted:Bicycle Thieves is the opposite for me, it's all plodding, desultory stuff that's supposed to wrench my heart out but it comes across as sort of generic. Gah!
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Hat Thoughts posted:Gah! Have I mentioned how little I enjoy Bicycle Thieves?
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Have I mentioned how little I enjoy Bicycle Thieves? I really dig Bicycle Thieves. Weird comparison but it kind of reminds me of Altman's Nashville. Like with Nashville something that really struck me after I saw it is how even though there's all this talking in the movie it never rly seems to change anything in a positive way. A lot of times in movies/tv/whateva(!) people make bad decisions because they're acting on incomplete evidence or misunderstanding something. In Nashville it feels like talking/knowing leads the characters to either make the exact same decision they were already going to make or a worse one. It could be called cynical but the film is clearly empathetic towards all those characters & because we usually only know as much as a character does when they make a mistake, their bad decision is just as likely the same decision that we would tell them to make. It forces empathy because it forces us in their shoes. Then it's almost frustrating in the end because all these small decisions and victories and losses almost seem to not matter because they're irrelevant to these larger machinations (machine nations?) that can sweep us away in a second without us having done anything wrong, but the ease at which we can be swept away shows the value in all of those small decisions cuz its what we got. (I know im oversimplifying but i think the point stands. Or maybe im forgetting/misunderstanding something & completely misinterpreting Nashville in which case nobody tell me please) Now Bicycle Thieves i think is significantly different in that language and discussion and all that are useful and positive in the movie and i think in general its doing something way different than Nashville but it feels similar to me in there's that same sense of constant empathy with these characters as they struggle with all these little moments that don't really change anything because of this bigger situation they're trapped in. Like ya no doubt his bicycle's gettin jacked we know that from the title and if we've googled "neorealism" before watching it and/or realize that we're watching a 1948 Italian movie we're also aware that we're probably not bookin a cheerful time and none of it's necessarily surprising in that sense. But I think it rly nails the contrast it builds and this sense of constant panic/loss of control/fear of greater loss that comes not only when something's stolen from you but also just when you're poor and struggling. Stuff like Ricci talking to his son in the restaurant eating food he shouldn't be buying but he's buying anyways because wtf else r u supposed to do when you're poor, annoyed, halfway into the abyss and your kid's hungry? Then at the same time Ricci's son is noticing the other poor kids across the divide at a different table & Ricci starts to realize that his son is gonna be in the exact same spot he is. Then he starts thinking what he could have done differently but clearly its all chance, he finds the exact thief after losing track of him but still gets nowhere with the info, his bike is stolen not when he leaves it outside of the fortune tellers unattended, but when he is working on a ladder right by it . And thats just like a part of that one scene. its good!! Dunno if that nashville comparison gets across like I want it to but im not rewritin this post again while the servers are down or w/e it is thats currently replacing the forums/"Preview Reply" button with an announcement from March 28th and comical picture of spiderman reporter J Jonah Jameson
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Ewar Woowar posted:I haven't liked an entire Tarantino movie since Jackie Brown. He does some scenes so exceptionally well but can't help add gimmicky bits throughout his movies that completely take me out of the immersion. Can't disagree with this, especially considering I think Reservoir Dogs is fantastic and Pulp Fiction is a masterpiece. Having said that I have not yet got round to seeing Jackie Brown, Django or Hateful Eight. I really enjoyed Kill Bill 1, not sure I ever saw Kill Bill 2 to the end and both Death Proof and Inglorious Basterds were ok movies that I've only been compelled to watch once.
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I feel like I should give it a rematch since I barely remember why I felt this way, but holy poo poo, I despised Drive. I remember thinking it was a pretentious piece of poo poo that was EXTREMELY overhyped by the internet. Same goes for Donnie Darko. I don't think either of them are horrible movies and they're entertaining on some levels, but anybody who thinks they're these great masterpieces needs to broaden their horizons.
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I really love Congo, i recognise its kind of trashy but that movie just works for me on so many levels from the talking gorilla to the lost city of zinj.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Gah! This has been my reaction to most of this thread.
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Ramagamma posted:I really love Congo, i recognise its kind of trashy but that movie just works for me on so many levels from the talking gorilla to the lost city of zinj. Coming in 2017, Jax from Sons of Anarchy will be getting to the bottom of the lost city of zinj. spoiler alert: he'll die right after he gets to the bottom of it
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Hat Thoughts posted:I really dig Bicycle Thieves. Weird comparison but it kind of reminds me of Altman's Nashville. Like with Nashville something that really struck me after I saw it is how even though there's all this talking in the movie it never rly seems to change anything in a positive way. A lot of times in movies/tv/whateva(!) people make bad decisions because they're acting on incomplete evidence or misunderstanding something. In Nashville it feels like talking/knowing leads the characters to either make the exact same decision they were already going to make or a worse one. I just find the characters to be shallow and one-note. I'm also not a huge fan of slog movies about sad poor people - "poverty" movies, Holocaust films, and movies about boarding school all have to be done really, really well for me to be interested. Everything about Bicycle Thieves feels so distant and mannered.
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I was not a big fan of Ladykillers. Part of that is who I originally saw it with, but even watching it later it just didn't do much. Hail Caesar! was awesome, mostly because I loved the dumb commie jokes plus the general Coehn Brothers pacing it had. A Serious Man remains their best movie.
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people hating on refn should probably watch the pusher trilogy that stuffs so good edit: I also want to go to bat for deadman but thinking back on it despite seeing the movie at least 5 times I've never watched it not high out of my loving mind. it's really good in that state though. killer soundtrack too Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I just find the characters to be shallow and one-note. I'm also not a huge fan of slog movies about sad poor people - "poverty" movies, Holocaust films, and movies about boarding school all have to be done really, really well for me to be interested. Everything about Bicycle Thieves feels so distant and mannered. What did you think of Dead Poet's Society? Not trying to be an rear end or anything, I'm honestly curious.
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Amelie, whimsical cutesy bullshit.
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Leavemywife posted:What did you think of Dead Poet's Society? Not trying to be an rear end or anything, I'm honestly curious. I've never seen it, it looks kind of aggravating.
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Leavemywife posted:What did you think of Dead Poet's Society? Not trying to be an rear end or anything, I'm honestly curious. You didn't ask me, but I found it to get cornier and more pretentious as it went along. The ending was some schmaltzy bullshit.
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Spatulater bro! posted:You didn't ask me, but I found it to get cornier and more pretentious as it went along. The ending was some schmaltzy bullshit. Yeah, that's about right. It was a really simplistic version of Robin Williams's standard "outsider rebel" archetype (probably not as bad as Patch Adams, but in the same ballpark), and the suicide felt contrived and kind of cheap. I read a pretty good article about why its attempted resistance against the educational status quo is actually just shallow anti-intellectualism: http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/02/-em-dead-poets-society-em-is-a-terrible-defense-of-the-humanities/283853/
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Brand New Malaysian Wife posted:Amelie, whimsical cutesy bullshit. oh yeah I forgot I even watched this I fuvkin hated that movie for the same reasons you listed
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