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zoux posted:And I won't, just like I've never seen the latter 2 hobbit movies. Still haven't seen the second
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i saw them all and regret it. i saw RoP and it was fine, but very disappointing, even with my guarded expectations. this is utter drivel, insulting slop.
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May 9, 2024 15:25
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the hobbit movies are good but only if you watch the fan edit that combines the best parts into one 4 hour film and cuts all the bullshit
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May 9, 2024 15:27
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I saw the first one in 3D at 60fps and it was the worst theater experience of my life
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May 9, 2024 15:28
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Only watching that if PJ goes back to his roots and uses 5 tanker trucks of actual pigs blood in the production.
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Kaysette posted:the hobbit movies are good but only if you watch the fan edit that combines the best parts into one 4 hour film and cuts all the bullshit I watched this rather than the second and third movies. it is bad and loses almost everything worth while about The Hobbit. All downhill from “Far Over The Misty Mountains Cold”. Rankin Bass Hobbit is unironically a way better use of much less time
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May 9, 2024 15:31
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Wait no, I went back and watched the second one on streaming so I could see the Smaug stuff, which was good. The rest was execrable.
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May 9, 2024 15:33
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Rankin bass gollum is my gollum
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May 9, 2024 15:37
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The hobbit *should* be an animated children's movie Just like wheel of time should be an anime
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May 9, 2024 15:46
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This is all just getting in the way of PJ finally making Bad Taste 2.
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May 9, 2024 16:00
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my gf saw the hobbit in 3D IMAX HFR , it was the very first film in that format in the screen, and the entire thing was out of sync lol
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May 9, 2024 16:08
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Yeah I saw it in the high framerate version and it didn't look good. It had an uncanny hyper clarity to it that I can't describe.
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May 9, 2024 16:19
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Did Del Toro's work on the Hobbit keep him away from Mountains of Madness or was it just 100% shut down by Prometheus?
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May 9, 2024 16:25
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Arc Hammer posted:The Hunt for Gollum??? It's OK everyone I found him asleep on my bed film's cancelled.  (He's a semiferal cat who got his name by appearing solely as a moving shadow or glowing eyes for the first few months while he decided to move in with me.)
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May 9, 2024 16:37
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Iirc after he was fired from the Hobbit, GDT left NZ and started on mountains of madness ? Maybe I have the chronology wrong
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May 9, 2024 16:39
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I saw the first Hobbit out of curiosity, the second out of a vague sense of obligation, and never saw the third.
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May 9, 2024 17:04
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There used to be an edit of the Smaug scene on YouTube that got rid of the mousetrap chase with a dragon and ended with Smaug attacking Laketown without the dwarves ever setting foot inside Erebor to challenge him. Wish I could still find it.
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May 9, 2024 17:13
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skasion posted:I watched this rather than the second and third movies. it is bad and loses almost everything worth while about The Hobbit. All downhill from “Far Over The Misty Mountains Cold”. Rankin Bass Hobbit is unironically a way better use of much less time I think I've said it before but the Rankin Bass Hobbit hit most of the important notes from the book and told a satisfying story in like 70 minutes. Sure, the elves looked goofy, but all in all it turned out way better than it had any right to.
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May 9, 2024 17:35
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thumper57 posted:I’ve always thought Boromir outright lied about having that dream, cause he was jealous of his cooler wimpier brother getting messages from god. My understanding wasn't jealousy, but rather "Faramir's getting ignored, I believe him, what if I said I'd had it too?"
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May 9, 2024 21:09
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CommonShore posted:Yeah I saw it in the high framerate version and it didn't look good. It had an uncanny hyper clarity to it that I can't describe. My main feeling while watching the Hobbit movies was a sense of dread that this HFR stuff would immediately take over the filmmaking world and nothing would ever be the same again. Fortunately that doesn't seem to have happened?
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May 10, 2024 00:24
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I loved the way HFR looked and I didn't get why everybody else in the entire world, as far as I could see, thought it looked bad.
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Bongo Bill posted:I loved the way HFR looked and I didn't get why everybody else in the entire world, as far as I could see, thought it looked bad. It looked like a poorly lit soap opera dude. The frame rate was too high for the quality of the set, costumes or what was attempting to be portrayed. It showed too much. We could see the wizard behind the giant floating head spitting fire. Hyper realism just has no place in live action fantasy as it currently stands.
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May 10, 2024 01:43
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Because it looks like it was shot on video tape
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I also thought it looked fine and normal
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Oracle posted:It looked like a poorly lit soap opera dude. The frame rate was too high for the quality of the set, costumes or what was attempting to be portrayed. It showed too much. We could see the wizard behind the giant floating head spitting fire. Hyper realism just has no place in live action fantasy as it currently stands. Were the sets and costumes notably lower in quality than the ones used in the Lord of the Rings films? Because, by reputation, those had a level of fidelity of construction that was sufficient for any level of fidelity of presentation, up to and including looking at them up close with the naked eye. The lighting I'll grant might have something to do with it. More pictures taken means more illumination is needed, and a brighter set would be difficult to photograph in a way that looks familiar. However, if that were the problem, that would also result in still shots, and the standard frame rate version, looking bad too, and I never saw people complaining about those. They always just talk about the frame rate. zoux posted:Because it looks like it was shot on video tape The only way it resembled video tape was by having a higher frame rate. That's just a circular argument.
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May 10, 2024 08:00
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It looked like absolute poo poo and every other filmmaker on the planet agreed
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May 10, 2024 08:31
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Peter Jackson was an idiot and he paired HFR, which might have worked, with 3D, which has been known to cause headaches and nausea. Every HFR showing was also a 3D showing. It was a very bad idea and it murdered any chance HFR had of catching on.
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May 10, 2024 08:34
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It looked like poo poo, I don't know if that was the framerate or the uncanny glossy cgi sheen everything had. Film sucked anyway regardless of the framerate.
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History of the Hobbit arrived yesterday, I think it's the chunkiest book I own 
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Bongo Bill posted:Were the sets and costumes notably lower in quality than the ones used in the Lord of the Rings films? Because, by reputation, those had a level of fidelity of construction that was sufficient for any level of fidelity of presentation, up to and including looking at them up close with the naked eye. Yeah absolutely. For LOTR they spent several years in pre-production, designing and redesigning costumes, sets, scouting locations, all that kind of stuff. You've probably heard the story that the Hobbiton set was built something like six months before filming, and they just left it to get overgrown so that it looked lived in. As someone mentioned a few posts back, there were details inside Theoden's costume that wouldn't ever be seen on camera, but Bernard Hill said it was so much easier to get into character because of it. And yes, a huge amount of stuff was done with practical effects. Whereas for the Hobbit trilogy they did all of the pre-production in six months or something (I forget the actual numbers). So basically they had no lead time, Jackson etc didn't want to be there, and there was a real "gently caress it, we'll fix it in post" attitude through the whole production. We've all seen that clip of Sir Ian as Gandalf, sitting in front of a bunch of green screens, looking miserable and crying about how he never wanted to be acting to a tennis ball on a stick.
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My favorite bit of trivia from the production is still the chainmail makers. Two guys making chainmail for two years. seemingly completely isolated from the rest of the crew. In the end they had rubbed off their fingerprints and the job had made them at least somewhat crazy:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vA9U7J2qQ The fact that they were so honest in this behind the scenes video makes me wonder just how insane it actually was. Remember that these bonus features are still meant to be a promotional feature putting a good spin on things. If the positive take on the Hobbit production is that it was "chaotic", the reality must have been far worse. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 12:40 on May 10, 2024 |
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Arc Hammer posted:The Hunt for Gollum??? Lol Warner Brothers are absolute pieces of poo poo. They copyright struck the decade plus-old fanfilm about the hunt for Gollum off of youtube only a day after making their announcement.
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Arc Hammer posted:Lol Warner Brothers are absolute pieces of poo poo. They copyright struck the decade plus-old fanfilm about the hunt for Gollum off of youtube only a day after making their announcement. lol
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Arc Hammer posted:Lol Warner Brothers are absolute pieces of poo poo. They copyright struck the decade plus-old fanfilm about the hunt for Gollum off of youtube only a day after making their announcement. lmao goddamn. fan films can be silly, but what the gently caress, its literally your biggest fans. loving invite them to the premier and you'll secure a bunch of free PR for literally no cost. have a picture of them standing next to the cast and every cosplay group will trip over themselves to go to the movie and post about it online
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https://twitter.com/ChrizBouchard/status/1788954963919470812 They actually unfucked themselves
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Bruceski posted:My understanding wasn't jealousy, but rather "Faramir's getting ignored, I believe him, what if I said I'd had it too?"
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May 10, 2024 16:42
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I don't think Boromir's dream was fake. It led him to exactly where he needed to be.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think Boromir's dream was fake. It led him to exactly where he needed to be. I do think that Faramir was the one meant to go on the quest, but Denethor wouldn't listen to him until the dream came to Boromir also so Denethor would okay the journey - just with the son he wanted to be a hero going instead of the one that was better suited to the task.
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sweet geek swag posted:Peter Jackson was an idiot and he paired HFR, which might have worked, with 3D, which has been known to cause headaches and nausea. Every HFR showing was also a 3D showing. It was a very bad idea and it murdered any chance HFR had of catching on. So it sounds like Peter Jackson is actually a genius
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