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The coffee machines. The discussion part is fun.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 23:42 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:01 |
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If they have cracked the code on good automated filter coffee then I could see that thing being an attractive prospect. I'd never buy a gen one product from Fellow though, especially not one that complicated. Gen 2 will probably be the one to get.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 02:37 |
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Need a quick reality check. I have a ROK coffee grinder. It's fast, I think the grind quality is fine. It's about 4 years old. I shouldn't even consider buying another manual grinder right? Grinders don't really age, right? Buying a Kind M47 or similar high end manual will achieve nothing except letting me grind while watching TV, right?
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 09:56 |
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Think about how cool it would be to bring your hand grinder to work
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 09:59 |
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You could always have a backup grinder. What if two people want to grind coffee at once
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 10:31 |
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Corb3t posted:Fellow just announced their Aiden smart connected pourover machine for $365. It looks pretty cool if pourover is your jam: Played around with one a little at the London coffee festival yesterday. Looked good from a far but was pretty plasticky when I got to touch it. Removable water tank was nice but the head didn't look very different to a cheap drip machine. That said I didn't get a chance to try and coffee from it and they might have done enough neat software stuff to make things better.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 13:59 |
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I impulse purchased some green coffee beans from an Ethiopian grocery a couple days ago. I ran out of coffee today so I just toss-roasted some of the green beans over the stove and did a horrible job of it (I've since looked up some tips and I'll try again with better technique). I brewed them up and it was drinkable but whatever. And then the last few sips in the cup had the most remarkable toffee flavour I've ever had from a cup of coffee. Is this how addictions start?
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 16:57 |
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CommonShore posted:I impulse purchased some green coffee beans from an Ethiopian grocery a couple days ago. Try it again, see if you like it.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 17:19 |
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Recommend me some roasting machines. A friend is interested in batch roasting.
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# ? Apr 16, 2024 06:46 |
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Mu Zeta posted:Think about how cool it would be to bring your hand grinder to work I did this for years with my cheap lil Hario. Was good
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# ? Apr 16, 2024 19:02 |
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CommonShore posted:I impulse purchased some green coffee beans from an Ethiopian grocery a couple days ago. My guess is you just didn’t let it cool enough to get those flavors. I’ve found that especially with Ethiopian origin beans you don’t get much of the really nice, subtle stuff until you near around 100-115F
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# ? Apr 16, 2024 19:44 |
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I ordered a refurbished Barista Touch last week and it has yet to ship. I’m worried they’re gonna send me an email saying it’s out of stock, since I see it’s now out of stock on the site. Lol. Lmao.
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# ? Apr 16, 2024 20:34 |
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I already have a little widdle Porlex Mini that I'm just too shy to bring to work
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# ? Apr 16, 2024 21:40 |
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Steve Yun posted:Recommend me some roasting machines. A friend is interested in batch roasting. Gene Cafe
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 01:54 |
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Mu Zeta posted:Think about how cool it would be to bring your hand grinder to work KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:You could always have a backup grinder. What if two people want to grind coffee at once Me and a coworker both have our own hand grinders, beans, and Aeropresses at work. The only thing we have to share if we want coffee at the same time is the kettle. And the pourover if we want that.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 01:57 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:I already have a little widdle Porlex Mini that I'm just too shy to bring to work Don’t do it. Watching someone crank their Porlex Mini in the office was how I got started and 4 years later here I am with a Decent and a Lagom P64. It’s dangerous.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:55 |
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Itt we're all just cranks
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 21:54 |
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Gunder posted:Watching someone crank their Porlex Mini in the office Did they get fired?
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 22:34 |
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Gunder posted:Don’t do it. Watching someone crank their Porlex Mini in the office was how I got started. There is no other way
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 22:49 |
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So here's a question: If I have the money, and the desire for aesthetics and build quality, but not necessarily the ability to discern the level of quality between different types of grinders, is it still worth it to pick up a Niche Zero? I think a good part of my enjoyment of coffee comes from the ritualized behavior of it and not necessarily the actual flavor, but maybe getting a super high quality grinder will allow me to actually taste the difference. I got back into coffee lately since my kid got a little older and it became feasible to spend a little more time making it again (we were just using a Nespresso machine for the first year of his life because that's all we had time for), but quite frankly my palate isn't very developed after like 17 years of being a smoker earlier in life. For reference, I have a Baratza Encore currently. I imagine the answer is "yes buy it, why the hell not", but maybe there's something else in that price range that's at the same level of quality I should be looking at. I have seen videos of the Niche and the difference in sound alone vs. my Encore is a pretty big motivator to pick it up as well.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 19:18 |
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Necronomicon posted:So here's a question: If I have the money, and the desire for aesthetics and build quality, but not necessarily the ability to discern the level of quality between different types of grinders, is it still worth it to pick up a Niche Zero? I think a good part of my enjoyment of coffee comes from the ritualized behavior of it and not necessarily the actual flavor, but maybe getting a super high quality grinder will allow me to actually taste the difference. I got back into coffee lately since my kid got a little older and it became feasible to spend a little more time making it again (we were just using a Nespresso machine for the first year of his life because that's all we had time for), but quite frankly my palate isn't very developed after like 17 years of being a smoker earlier in life. For reference, I have a Baratza Encore currently. There's almost certainly something much better than the Niche Zero that you can pick up. What sort of coffee do you plan to make with it? If it's filter, I'd instead have a look at the Fellow Ode. Cheaper than the Niche and with much better burrs. It just isn't suited for Espresso. Gunder fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 23, 2024 |
# ? Apr 23, 2024 19:34 |
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I'll be making espresso; we just got a Rancilio Silvia. So I guess that means the Fellow Ode is out.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 20:24 |
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I've had my Niche Zero (paired with a PID Mod Gaggia) for about a year and a half now and really like it. You should probably at least consider a DF64 Gen2 since they can potentially be significantly cheaper depending on where you are in the world. It also uses flat burrs and has quite a few option to swap in. The Niche seems like it has better build quality to me and is quieter. Flat vs conical burrs seems like mostly a preference thing. People with a more refined palate than I have will insist they can taste a difference, but I doubt I could. I am pretty happy with my combo.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:02 |
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Apparently the Timemore 64s is the one to consider in that price range.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:40 |
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Necronomicon posted:So here's a question: If I have the money, and the desire for aesthetics and build quality, but not necessarily the ability to discern the level of quality between different types of grinders, is it still worth it to pick up a Niche Zero? I think a good part of my enjoyment of coffee comes from the ritualized behavior of it and not necessarily the actual flavor, but maybe getting a super high quality grinder will allow me to actually taste the difference. I got back into coffee lately since my kid got a little older and it became feasible to spend a little more time making it again (we were just using a Nespresso machine for the first year of his life because that's all we had time for), but quite frankly my palate isn't very developed after like 17 years of being a smoker earlier in life. For reference, I have a Baratza Encore currently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VohJapkObs Should just about cover it. Love my Niche FWIW.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:52 |
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Gunder posted:Apparently the Timemore 64s is the one to consider in that price range. I keep forgetting about these. Looks like they aren't in wide release just yet, but yeah take a look at this one too.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 21:52 |
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amenenema posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VohJapkObs On this note, Hoffmann recently sent out a Patreon update: quote:The next comparison is going to be grinders under $250. It's a really interesting collection - the new DF54, the Fellow Opus, The Baratza ESP, the latest version of the Varia and the Sage grinder. If there were aspects of the previous grinder comparisons that you liked, or wanted more of, then leave me a comment. We're still working through all the testing protocols and trying to improve on what we did in the last comparison.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 22:01 |
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Think it's safe to buy the Ode 2? I'm looking at that vs the one with the updated burrs. Is there enough of a difference to justify the cost (stupid question...) Let me rephrase, is it a noticeable difference?
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 23:16 |
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Cannon_Fodder posted:Think it's safe to buy the Ode 2? I'm looking at that vs the one with the updated burrs. Apparently the Ode 2 stock burrs are really close to how the SSP burrs taste. I wouldn't bother spending the extra. Edit: For filter coffee, I don't think there's a better choice than the gen 2 Ode with stock burrs.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 23:46 |
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Necronomicon posted:So here's a question: If I have the money, and the desire for aesthetics and build quality, but not necessarily the ability to discern the level of quality between different types of grinders, is it still worth it to pick up a Niche Zero? I think a good part of my enjoyment of coffee comes from the ritualized behavior of it and not necessarily the actual flavor, but maybe getting a super high quality grinder will allow me to actually taste the difference. I got back into coffee lately since my kid got a little older and it became feasible to spend a little more time making it again (we were just using a Nespresso machine for the first year of his life because that's all we had time for), but quite frankly my palate isn't very developed after like 17 years of being a smoker earlier in life. For reference, I have a Baratza Encore currently. If you enjoy the ritual part of it, would you consider a good quality hand grinder?
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 03:32 |
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KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:If you enjoy the ritual part of it, would you consider a good quality hand grinder? Lord Stimperor posted:There is no other way
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 04:22 |
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KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:If you enjoy the ritual part of it, would you consider a good quality hand grinder? Probably! I had one back in like 2015 because it was cheaper than an electric burr grinder which I couldn’t afford at the time, but I remember it taking quite a long while to make enough for an Aeropress cup. What kind of features differentiate hand grinders from each other? What’s the general price range on them?
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 04:28 |
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Gonna plug a local place if anyone wants some funk- https://beancoffeelab.com/ I got a bag of the tropical roast and even with just a few days rest it's definitely got that banana-y taste to it. Between discovering Dak and this I've noticed that I'm starting to trend toward more weird, processed coffees.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 23:27 |
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Necronomicon posted:Probably! I had one back in like 2015 because it was cheaper than an electric burr grinder which I couldn’t afford at the time, but I remember it taking quite a long while to make enough for an Aeropress cup. What kind of features differentiate hand grinders from each other? What’s the general price range on them? down here in Australia I picked up a 1zpresso X-Pro for 180AUD (~120USD) last year and I use it almost exclusively for espresso, with the occasional aeropress or french press with it. For me it's about under a minute to grind 16g of espresso I've had a cheaper hand grinder before which was 'okay' but it gets annoying having to adjust the tiny knob on the bottom (same) to change the grind size on my old one. The newer one has a much easier grind size adjustment on the top. I think the length of the handle was shorter too which made grinding finer more difficult since you have less leverage I have an electric grinder as well (Breville Dose Control Pro) but for espresso it doesn't have as fine a range of adjustment as the 1zpresso does, and the fine adjustment on the electric one involves removing the top burr from the hopper I dunno much about the other brand hand grinders but the 1zpresso ones usually have different size burrs and different adjustment ranges per click (12.5 microns on the x-pro)
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 00:42 |
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Just a word of warning on hand grinders for espresso - I found it hard to get consistent shots on a JX-Pro and I'm pretty sure it was the variance in grinding speed. If I was really careful about that it was great, but something that had me chasing my tail until I figured it out.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 01:33 |
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Got the refurbished Barista Touch in and I'm really liking it. I'm a total amateur and can make a cappuccino that tastes pretty good to me before I leave for work in the morning. loving owns. I'm probably not making a great cup or anything but it seems to me about on par with what I'd get ordering out somewhere. Looking forward to trying to imitate some of my favorite drinks from local places.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 06:05 |
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Corb3t posted:I stopped into Sump coffee roasters in St. Louis over the weekend and had a tasty Goji Gesha pourover. I try to hit up a nice coffee roaster or two whenever I visit a big city, but none of them can match my local spots bean selection, Hyperion, especially pricing-wise. I mail ordered 2 bags from Hyperion on your recommendation and I'm very pleased, thank you!
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 17:30 |
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Do y'all count "time in the chest freezer" as time to offgas? Bought a bag that was roasted yesterday, wondering if I should freeze now for use in 4 days, or sit on counter until then, then freeze unused portion. Medium roast.
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# ? May 4, 2024 23:49 |
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BrianBoitano posted:Do y'all count "time in the chest freezer" as time to offgas? Bought a bag that was roasted yesterday, wondering if I should freeze now for use in 4 days, or sit on counter until then, then freeze unused portion. Medium roast. No. If beans have a roast date of May 1, I leave it on the counter 10-14 days before freezing it and then removing as needed.
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# ? May 5, 2024 01:22 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:01 |
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Is there a known problem with Nespresso Vertuo machines crapping out with recent pods or what My wife has a vertup (the one that makes a full size cup of coffee from a half golf ball pod, not the smaller espresso pod system that's thimble sized) since before I met her, about 18 months ago it started having problems and we decided to replace it just assuming it was old. The new one has crapped out within 4 months Our water is pretty average, I have fish and decorative shrimp so I'm testing it pretty regularly We called their hotline and they were able to diagnose the "red ring of death" but it's failed twice again since then Not having reliable coffee in the house has been a real disaster, we're thinking about switching over to k-cups Thoughts?
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# ? May 5, 2024 23:33 |