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Rotating shapes in your head is just something you can or can’t do easily, and there is a very weak correlation between being able to do it and success in STEM fields. This of course makes it the ideal interview question.
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Plorkyeran posted:Rotating shapes in your head is just something you can or can’t do easily, and there is a very weak correlation between being able to do it and success in STEM fields. This of course makes it the ideal interview question. its also something that will filter out women disproportionately to men 
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Plorkyeran posted:Rotating shapes in your head is just something you can or can’t do easily, and there is a very weak correlation between being able to do it and success in STEM fields. This of course makes it the ideal interview question. leper khan posted:its also something that will filter out women disproportionately to men Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 17, 2024 |
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May 16, 2024 20:49
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leper khan posted:its also something that will filter out women disproportionately to men I worked with a woman who could not tell her left from her side without looking at her hands to see which thumb and index finger made the L. One of the features she worked on was code for hanging mammograms on a computer screen. It did not seem to impede her at all at writing the code for that.
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:I worked with a woman who could not tell her left from her side without looking at her hands to see which thumb and index finger made the L. One of the features she worked on was code for hanging mammograms on a computer screen. It did not seem to impede her at all at writing the code for that. I'm not that bad, but I'm pretty close. I'm terrible at that sort of thing, but x/y coordinates and things of that ilk are easy peasy no problem at all. I would have absolutely bombed that question, the combination I thought was correct wasn't even an option.  Thanks to those who provided the answer.
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leper khan posted:its also something that will filter out women disproportionately to men That's probably also a plus for the people who think it's a good idea to use it as a question.
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May 17, 2024 04:14
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:I worked with a woman who could not tell her left from her side without looking at her hands to see which thumb and index finger made the L. One of the features she worked on was code for hanging mammograms on a computer screen. It did not seem to impede her at all at writing the code for that. I have a permanent callus from the days when we used physical writing devices. I still feel for that callus to tell which is left and right, even if I don't have to. Like a subtle tick.
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Starting prep to get back in interviewing shape, here's my plan: - Data structures/algos: do the neetcode 150 (https://neetcode.io/practice). Halfway through this - Do some system design prep. Read designing data intensive applications and this book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CMF2CQF?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details). Done most of these books, going to practice with a friend when ready. - Making a presentation of all the projects I've worked on and want to highlight in an interview. Does this look fine? Anyone have suggestions or stuff you'd add? (i'll be applying to EM or staff eng roles)
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Jun 3, 2024 16:36
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em or staff eng? interview process is completely different for both those
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Jun 3, 2024 16:41
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bob dobbs is dead posted:em or staff eng? interview process is completely different for both those Not sure completely yet, wanted to cover my bases. I haven't interviewed in years and my last interview was for Senior SWE (currently an EM) so open to any suggestions
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Those are two very different jobs with different expectations and skill sets/experience I’d focus on which track you want to commit to before worrying about interview prep
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This may seem like a silly question but what an EM? Been trying to search it and not coming up with anything.
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engineering manager
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biceps crimes posted:engineering manager Thanks! That’s actually what I was thinking but wasn’t sure.
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Prep your stories for the behavioral interview, for questions like, “tell me about a time you disagreed with your manager on the product direction.” The answer should be in a format like context-problem-solution-result. If you have a dozen ready to go you’ll be able to find a story that’s close enough to the question. I don’t know if that’s a what you mean by… mila kunis posted:- Making a presentation of all the projects I've worked on and want to highlight in an interview. … but I just want call out the format you’ll probably be asked.
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welp I finally got, got. what are people using for resume templates these days
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:welp I finally got, got. what are people using for resume templates these days my old resumes
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Guinness posted:Those are two very different jobs with different expectations and skill sets/experience I have plenty of time for that, I don't plan to actively look for another few months. I want to do some studying in the meantime and came here for suggestions. From my understanding, regardless of the track you choose you're still going to have to do the data structures and algos / system design gauntlet in interviews (unfortunately the case in my company's interviews for those roles). Is that incorrect?
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I became a tryhard and used this latex template: https://github.com/ridhamdave/resume-latex
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i've seen lotsa em positions filled by "i know a guy who knows a guy" sorta things in smaller places
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lifg posted:I became a tryhard and used this latex template: https://github.com/ridhamdave/resume-latex thank you  leper khan posted:my old resumes change is good, you should embrace it
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:change is good, you should embrace it I've been using the same resume since I got a job at the mall, I'm not about to abandon it 
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:thank you dont change what works. i get hits on my current format so its good
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i've seen lotsa em positions filled by "i know a guy who knows a guy" sorta things in smaller places Assuming all parties are acting in good faith, this is realistically a pretty slam dunk for most smaller places. Like yeah, there's obviously problems with nepotism, but when you don't have the pay or the reputation to attract top performers, it's often extremely important to try and avoid subpar employees that might chatgpt their way through an interview, and knowing 'oh I worked with that guy before and he is solid, and he's recommending someone' is honestly a pretty reasonable way to find staff. You shouldn't only do that, and obviously if parties aren't acting in good faith it gets bad fast, but I still think it's a pretty reasonable approach.
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yeah, it aint a value judgement. your first recourse getting em interviews has gotta be network
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I have, for the first time, experienced the (I thought mythical) "How dare you try to negotiate? Offer withdrawn!"
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Another thing someone pointed out to me in this thread is that by definition, most jobs looking to hire had people leave, and when people leave a job, a lot of times it's because the job has some sort of problem. This leads to an unfortunate bit of oddsmaking: probability indicates that you're more likely to be applying to a bad job than a good one, assuming everything else is equal. Now, that isn't 100%, but it's one of the big advantages of networking, since you can often get at least a reasonably honest appraisal of what is wrong with the job, and decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to deal with that downside. It might be an opportunity - going into a job with gaps and the skills to fill them can be pretty rewarding, as long as you don't end up overwhelmed or underappreciated. crazypenguin posted:I have, for the first time, experienced the (I thought mythical) "How dare you try to negotiate? Offer withdrawn!" This feels like a bullet dodged situation, IMO, or at least it's probably best to just mentally think of it as such.
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Definitely taking it as bullet dodged, but it's still a mindfuck that I didn't really have much else in the way of red flags during the process until it suddenly blew up right at the end.
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mila kunis posted:I have plenty of time for that, I don't plan to actively look for another few months. I want to do some studying in the meantime and came here for suggestions. From my understanding, regardless of the track you choose you're still going to have to do the data structures and algos / system design gauntlet in interviews (unfortunately the case in my company's interviews for those roles). Is that incorrect? I haven't run across a company that wants me to roll algos for an EM role yet. System design, yes. Code review was one. Mostly it's been behavioral/situational type stuff.
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Falcon2001 posted:Another thing someone pointed out to me in this thread is that by definition, most jobs looking to hire had people leave, and when people leave a job, a lot of times it's because the job has some sort of problem. Often though, that problem is "existing employee finds out new hire is being paid 50% more for the same role, yet they can't find the money for the existing employee." Yes that is a problem with the way the company does business but that problem pervades the entire industry, which is why we change jobs every few years. It doesn't necessarily say a lot about any given company by itself. crazypenguin posted:I have, for the first time, experienced the (I thought mythical) "How dare you try to negotiate? Offer withdrawn!" 
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crazypenguin posted:I have, for the first time, experienced the (I thought mythical) "How dare you try to negotiate? Offer withdrawn!" Just think of it like sales. Sometimes if a client isn't serious, they get cold feet right at the end or they're just kicking tires. You don't want to work for clients that don't know what they want or what they need.
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Falcon2001 posted:Another thing someone pointed out to me in this thread is that by definition, most jobs looking to hire had people leave, and when people leave a job, a lot of times it's because the job has some sort of problem. Places grow, also. It's definitely important to ask why a role is open
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"how or why did you get approval to increase the budget for this type of role?" is usually a top 10 question for the hiring manager, and the answer usually tells you volumes
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Hadlock posted:"how or why did you get approval to increase the budget for this type of role?" is usually a top 10 question for the hiring manager, and the answer usually tells you volumes Ooh, that's interesting. Can you expand, please? What kinds of answers can one get, and what do they imply?
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12Apr1961 posted:Ooh, that's interesting. Can you expand, please? What kinds of answers can one get, and what do they imply? "Our team is doubling in size for the third time to capitalize on opportunity" says very different things from "the last guy quit".
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12Apr1961 posted:Ooh, that's interesting. Can you expand, please? What kinds of answers can one get, and what do they imply? There are really only two possible answers: either they're replacing someone who left, or they're growing the team. Just knowing that doesn't tell you much, but as long as they offer a bit of explanation that can tell you quite a bit about how things are. If they don't offer that explanation then you should be concerned.
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ultrafilter posted:There are really only two possible answers: either they're replacing someone who left, or they're growing the team. Just knowing that doesn't tell you much, but as long as they offer a bit of explanation that can tell you quite a bit about how things are. If they don't offer that explanation then you should be concerned. Also promotion backfill and restructuring (real stuff, like "we're moving consultants in-house") I like the angle of asking how the budget was increased because "We plan to grow by 10% a year" vs "The VP told me to do it" vs "I went through the standard process" vs "I cried for 3 months straight" all say very different things about a company.
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ultrafilter posted:There are really only two possible answers: either they're replacing someone who left, or they're growing the team. Just knowing that doesn't tell you much, but as long as they offer a bit of explanation that can tell you quite a bit about how things are. If they don't offer that explanation then you should be concerned. You can also read a lot from how people deliver the response too. "Ah, our senior engineer just got promoted and works as a lead architect now, so we have an opening" is very different than "Oh we had a guy who was just terrible and complained about the worklife balance and then quit without notice", or even "We can't disclose that information".
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There is definitely a lot of information you can get from the answer. Is this a new team looking to grow? Adding headcount to an existing team? Backfilling a promotion? Trying to make up for the tide of escaping employees?
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Or: we got bought, they fired almost everyone, and finally we were able to get a req after screaming for 5 years.
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