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I'm going to be disappointed if the Bills don't roll out some trick plays this year https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7370397426693246251
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The media game is now being played, with articles being released that show Tua was offered a contract that had an AAV starting with 4 and he wants one starting with a 5. If Goff is getting 50+ million, you gotta pay Tua $50+ million. We're stuck.
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May 19, 2024 20:58
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Yeah it sucks. I already know 80% of TFF disagrees but I personally wouldn’t do it. Dude has finished one season and gets worse as the season goes on every year. I’m like his biggest fan too!
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May 19, 2024 21:12
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What is the better alternative? Draft the 5th best prospect next year? Trade away all your draft assets for the next 3 seasons to get someone with a real chance? Let the whole team go to poo poo for a year or two? Spend even more on a free agent QB who's either worse or on the edge of retirement?
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May 19, 2024 21:17
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I genuinely hate to say it but from a leverage and safety of the franchise standpoint, you let him play out that 5th year option. He hasn't answered all the questions just yet, and I simply can't support locking up 210+ million guaranteed to a guy Im genuinely worried about injuring himself every game. Not to mention his level of play varies wildly from unstoppable all pro to "what the gently caress is that throw where are you even looking" interception
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May 19, 2024 21:17
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I can’t imagine he plays well enough to raise his price tag
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sirtommygunn posted:What is the better alternative? Draft the 5th best prospect next year? Trade away all your draft assets for the next 3 seasons to get someone with a real chance? Let the whole team go to poo poo for a year or two? Spend even more on a free agent QB who's either worse or on the edge of retirement? I have no idea what options will be available but I’d rather the team go to poo poo for a year or two than potentially 5. t a s t e posted:I can’t imagine he plays well enough to raise his price tag Also this.
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May 19, 2024 21:31
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t a s t e posted:I can’t imagine he plays well enough to raise his price tag Exactly. It’s a no lose situation for Miami to let him play it out tbh
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May 19, 2024 21:45
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t a s t e posted:I can’t imagine he plays well enough to raise his price tag His price will go up just by virtue of another calendar year going by.
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May 19, 2024 21:57
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you sign him now because you're going to have to pay him regardless and you look like cheap assholes if you try to do a wait and see approach (and you have to pay him more) quarterbacks cost $50 million a year now, that's how it goes. franchise hitched their wagon to him when they fired flores
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May 19, 2024 21:59
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Part of me wonders if they're going to do that. You've got this year of Tyreek and Ramsey, and they passed on doling out any lengthy contracts this offseason. Could be an incredibly easy teardown if they don't succeed this year. Though how you'd let Grier be the guy to administer that I don't know
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May 19, 2024 22:08
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fsif posted:His price will go up just by virtue of another calendar year going by. And if he has a great healthy year, boom he's proven worth the basic increase. lol to "the team will look cheap!"
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May 19, 2024 22:13
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fsif posted:His price will go up just by virtue of another calendar year going by. Yeah but so does the cap. I think the logic that if his price skyrockets it's probably because he balled the gently caress out makes sense. That said I do think you should probably bust out the checkbook and extend him. Do you really want to copy the last 4 years of New England Patriots football. "I will simply find another, better franchise QB" always sounds easier when you already have a QB. I mean, you just hit on one, how hard could it be? Then you go back out in the dating pool and it's a bunch of Zach Wilson and Mac Jones and Mitch Trubisky rear end losers but it's too late to turn back.
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May 19, 2024 22:19
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Ignore any non dolphin fan posting, they all just want to poo poo post “LOL YOURE PAYING HIM WHAT?” Any time he struggles
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TheBizzness posted:Ignore any non dolphin fan posting, they all just want to poo poo post “LOL YOURE PAYING HIM WHAT?” Any time he struggles drat got me
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May 19, 2024 22:22
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Amy Pole Her posted:And if he has a great healthy year, boom he's proven worth the basic increase. the team will look cheap is bad when trying to attract free agents. that's how you become the bengals
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May 19, 2024 22:39
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Docjowles posted:Yeah but so does the cap. I think the logic that if his price skyrockets it's probably because he balled the gently caress out makes sense. That said I do think you should probably bust out the checkbook and extend him. Do you really want to copy the last 4 years of New England Patriots football. "I will simply find another, better franchise QB" always sounds easier when you already have a QB. I mean, you just hit on one, how hard could it be? Then you go back out in the dating pool and it's a bunch of Zach Wilson and Mac Jones and Mitch Trubisky rear end losers but it's too late to turn back. I think average QB salary as percentage of cap has continued to grow YOY as well, but I don't know that for sure and it seems like the kind of thing Kalli will come along and crunch the numbers for within 36 hours or so. But I don't know what new information the Dolphins are hoping to find with one more season. I think we have a good bead on who Tua is as a player. He's a starter and a top 12 guy that has brilliant games but is highly dependent on a system being tailored to his strengths. You can do worse.
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May 19, 2024 22:47
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Declan MacManus posted:the team will look cheap is bad when trying to attract free agents. that's how you become the bengals I’m a Florida hater, but it’s Miami dude. A lot of free agents aren’t gonna shy away from signing there, regardless of the ownership taking the wait and see approach with a frequently injured QB.
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May 19, 2024 22:50
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if you can get Tua to sign an extension this offseason for a flat 50 AAV it's a great deal. if he plays hardball you offer up to what the Lions gave Goff; beyond that, you have the option and two tags to figure things out
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May 19, 2024 23:33
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sirtommygunn posted:What is the better alternative? Draft the 5th best prospect next year? Trade away all your draft assets for the next 3 seasons to get someone with a real chance? Let the whole team go to poo poo for a year or two? Spend even more on a free agent QB who's either worse or on the edge of retirement? yes
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May 19, 2024 23:40
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Declan MacManus posted:the team will look cheap is bad when trying to attract free agents. that's how you become the bengals Nothing they've done or have been doing would scare any free agent.
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May 19, 2024 23:41
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40115297/new-york-jets-win-super-bowl-2024-season-aaron-rodgers
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What would scare off free agents is letting Tua walk, whiffing on his replacement, and totally sucking rear end. New England is radioactive right now to free agents. Like we had a massive bag of cash to spend and the best we could do was KJ Osborn and Antonio Gibson lmao. Option + tag seems like a valid strategy if they really don’t want to commit. Straight up throwing him back and trying again is not imo
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even if the dolphins don't win a single game they'll still won't scare off free agents because its miami and they have nice facilities and no taxes and the coach let's them play xbox
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If you don't think Tua is the guy, then don't sign him. There's no, oh we only paid him $45m per, it's a great deal, that's Daniel Jones logic. Let him play it out. If he has a good year and shows he's worth a contract, who cares if it's $8m more per if he actually is the guy. If he isn't the guy, then you're basically hoping you can draft and build a perfect team to maybe pray your way through the playoffs. Super low odds regardless. Might as well trust in your coaching to go find his Brock Purdy.
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another upside of not paying Tua is someone else will pay him $50m and it'll probably be funny. imagine the broncos doing that.
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Docjowles posted:Option + tag seems like a valid strategy if they really don’t want to commit. Straight up throwing him back and trying again is not imo
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TheBizzness posted:Yeah it sucks. I already know 80% of TFF disagrees but I personally wouldn’t do it. I took this post to mean just cut bait and start over. If Mr. The Bizzness meant option + tag but not a long term deal then never mind!
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Docjowles posted:I took this post to mean just cut bait and start over. If Mr. The Bizzness meant option + tag but not a long term deal then never mind! Yeah sorry, I didn’t mean just dump him, but play it out.
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The only thing this division's made me learn is whatever decision is chosen will ultimately prove to be the wrong one unless it's literally only for Tom Brady exclusively So either they'll pay him and still not win a playoff game, or let him walk and he'll go on to only win playoff games
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Chris James 2 posted:The only thing this division's made me learn is whatever decision is chosen will ultimately prove to be the wrong one unless it's literally only for Tom Brady exclusively yeah pretty much
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If they’re paying $55m per next year to some QB, I think the Dolphins would prefer to give it to Dak.
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Diva Cupcake posted:If they’re paying $55m per next year to some QB, I think the Dolphins would prefer to give it to Dak. This might be weird coming from me but I don't think Dak is all that much better than Tua.
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TheBizzness posted:Yeah sorry, I didn’t mean just dump him, but play it out. Welp disregard my posts then (as usual). Thought there was a faction arguing for wading back into the draft/free agent pool on the logic that if you don't have a top 3 QB you don't have a QB.
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paying Dak would be even stupider than paying Tua
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lol at dak trying to consistently get the ball out in under 2 seconds
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mcmagic posted:This might be weird coming from me but I don't think Dak is all that much better than Tua. They kind of have the same problem despite being vastly different QBs.
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Don’t pay him poo poo until he can prove that it’s possible for him to have the game on the line and not take a sack or throw a pick.
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nachos posted:lol at dak trying to consistently get the ball out in under 2 seconds Before this off-season I would have said McDaniel could scheme an offense around whoever is at QB but now that Grier has built an offense that is "oops all speedsters" I think they're required to resign Tua or find someone with his exact skillset and only one of those is realistic
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Kalli posted:If you don't think Tua is the guy, then don't sign him. There's no, oh we only paid him $45m per, it's a great deal, that's Daniel Jones logic. The thing I don't understand is why the Dolphins don't already know if he's their guy or not. They should loving know by now.
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