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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Emotions aren't energy though

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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Vegetable posted:

Emotions aren't energy though

Yeah they're people. :rolleyes:

How do you express emotions? Oh yeah, by doing things.

Tartarus Sauce
Jan 16, 2006


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me
I decided that the little jellybean people are neurotransmitters.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Tartarus Sauce posted:

I decided that the little jellybean people are neurotransmitters.

Yeah their sheer indifference to everything reminds me of brain chemistry.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




KirbyKhan posted:

I just feel like the visuals and feel didnt match up to Pixar's previous films. Especially with the concept.

In WALL-E you had earth covered in skyscrapers of trash. In Nemo the sea is a vibrant colorful community. In Up you had a lush jungle and was tranported there by a house lifted by a bajillion colorful ballons.

In Inside Out you go into the mind. That should be fuckin dope! Oh... it just looks like my company's executive offices... and a nice verson of a warehouse...

Balls...

Still a good movie. Just not Pixar's best.

Honestly, I think that's where I'm kinda let down. The inside of the mind wasn't weird enough; they had the opportunity to do things really trippy and amazing and didn't.

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Why couldn't the bean people shot her core memories up that tube like they did the jingle memory.

Also lame complaint as it is entirely possible but I would've preferred her to have the same colour eyes as her parents.

Edit: Anger was totally Super Meat Boy in a suit.

Athletic Footjob fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 25, 2015

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Athletic Footjob posted:

Also lame complaint as it is entirely possible but I would've preferred her to have the same colour eyes as her parents.


This is the weirdest, most trivial complaint I have seen about the movie.

And I've read this thread.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Athletic Footjob posted:

Why couldn't the bean people shot her core memories up that tube like they did the jingle memory.

They did try that in the end, remember? It just took 'em a while to figure it out. Nobody said emotions are smart.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

KirbyKhan posted:

I just feel like the visuals and feel didnt match up to Pixar's previous films. Especially with the concept.

In WALL-E you had earth covered in skyscrapers of trash. In Nemo the sea is a vibrant colorful community. In Up you had a lush jungle and was tranported there by a house lifted by a bajillion colorful ballons.

In Inside Out you go into the mind. That should be fuckin dope! Oh... it just looks like my company's executive offices... and a nice verson of a warehouse...

Balls...

Still a good movie. Just not Pixar's best.

Its kind of an unfair comparison, though. Indoor settings are probably always going to be outshone by the scope and detail of the natural world, and that's true even within the same film; look at the castle interior in Brave vs. the forest, or the dentist office vs. the ocean in Nemo, WALL-E's hovel vs. the trash piles and the human's ship vs. space. So really the films to compare Inside Out's visuals to would be the other indoor ones, especially Ratatouille and Monsters Inc. which are also workplaces emphasizing function over style. That being said, I agree that Inside Out was visually a little underwhelming. I liked the design but the world felt kind of small for the function it was supposed to serve. Whereas Monsters gave the impression of a big sprawling factory, and Ratatouille showed occasional glimpses of a huge city before zooming back in on the little corner where the story was, Inside seemed to sell the brain a little short in favor of making sure the outside world was fleshed out enough. I feel like they went through a checklist of features they wanted to hit outside the control room, but none of it felt bigger or more established than what we actually saw on screen.

Adeline Weishaupt
Oct 16, 2013

by Lowtax

Athletic Footjob posted:

Why couldn't the bean people shot her core memories up that tube like they did the jingle memory.

I personally justify it by how Joy is a bit domineering in general. She could have sent the core memories back via the pneumatic tubes, but that would require trusting that fear, disgust, and anger wouldn't screw up (which considering how they ran Riley solo, that isn't an unfair assumption). So instead she operated under the adage "if you want a job done right, you have to do it yourself."

Plus, when she did use the pneumatic tubes she also rode in it with the core memories. Again, to make sure the others wouldn't screw up her mission.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Vegetable posted:

Emotions aren't energy though

Johnny Rotten specifically said that Anger is.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Madurai posted:

Johnny Rotten specifically said that Anger is.

On the other hand, Joe Strummer suggested that Anger can be Power.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Chicken Butt posted:

On the other hand, Joe Strummer suggested that Anger can be Power.

What we've learned from Inside Out is that punk bands need more rigor in their unit analysis.

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014
This was an incredible movie. I really loved everything about it.

Lava was terrible though.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Mars4523 posted:

Lava was terrible though.

They clearly put a lot of hard work into it, it's too bad that you didn't Lav-ah it.

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen

hemale in pain posted:

In the UK at least they're really over doing it with the tie in adverts. The subway one is the worst but the pizza one is bad too.

No joke, I've seen more merch and ads for Inside Out than I have for the Minions.

Tupping Liberty
Mar 17, 2008

Never cross an introvert.

Athletic Footjob posted:

Also lame complaint as it is entirely possible but I would've preferred her to have the same colour eyes as her parents.

I totally didn't notice this but my mom picked up on it right away; after the movie she was like, "So, Riley was adopted, right?"

Looking it up, apparently it's possible for two brown-eyed people to have a blue-eyed child, but since we never see Riley's mom pregnant and there's no siblings, it's not an unreasonable bit of head-canon.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Tupping Liberty posted:

I totally didn't notice this but my mom picked up on it right away; after the movie she was like, "So, Riley was adopted, right?"

Looking it up, apparently it's possible for two brown-eyed people to have a blue-eyed child, but since we never see Riley's mom pregnant and there's no siblings, it's not an unreasonable bit of head-canon.

Riley was actually a clone of an alien. I know this because they didn't show any aliens in the movie. It's not unreasonable to think there was a byzantine, behind the scenes government coverup taking place in the movie's universe just outside the bounds of the given scope we were presented with.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Drifter posted:

Riley was actually a clone of an alien. I know this because they didn't show any aliens in the movie. It's not unreasonable to think there was a byzantine, behind the scenes government coverup taking place in the movie's universe just outside the bounds of the given scope we were presented with.
They were all actually spaceships like in Meet Dave.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
My sister is dark skin/brown eyes and her husband's dark skin/black hair. Their son's blonde hair/blue eyes due to both grandmothers. There was a 25% chance of him hitting that color combo, but damned if he didn't. And while I understand it's both possible and preferable from a design standpoint as it adds vibrancy, I'm always a little disappointed so few animated characters have brown eyes. Might have something to do with me having them. :v:

I swear to god, a blonde hair/brown eyes combo is the hardest drat thing to find.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Tupping Liberty posted:

I totally didn't notice this but my mom picked up on it right away; after the movie she was like, "So, Riley was adopted, right?"

Looking it up, apparently it's possible for two brown-eyed people to have a blue-eyed child, but since we never see Riley's mom pregnant and there's no siblings, it's not an unreasonable bit of head-canon.

Das Boo posted:

My sister is dark skin/brown eyes and her husband's dark skin/black hair. Their son's blonde hair/blue eyes due to both grandmothers. There was a 25% chance of him hitting that color combo, but damned if he didn't. And while I understand it's both possible and preferable from a design standpoint as it adds vibrancy, I'm always a little disappointed so few animated characters have brown eyes. Might have something to do with me having them. :v:

I swear to god, a blonde hair/brown eyes combo is the hardest drat thing to find.

Inside Out is an incredibly boring movie.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
I found this a really disappointing movie, where a lot of ideas just didn't feel well-realized. Take the memory hole for example.

From the moment we're introduced to the memory hole, given that the plot involves Riley losing pieces of herself, it's inevitable that the characters are going to end up going down there one way or another. This builds a sense of anticipation - what does it look like? How does it work? When the story arrives there, the memory hole just feels tepid. It roughly evokes a mix of an underworld and a wasteland - endless grey as unpowered (?) memories turn to dust. I'm not sure exactly what's at fault, but it just never seems very foreboding, and didn't evoke much emotion from me. Maybe it's because it was lacking in detail, so the endless grey was just, well, endless grey. Maybe it's because Joy never stopped glowing, so the visual was of her overpowering the grey rather than the grey posing any threat.

Then there's how quickly the plot moves through the memory hole. Joy arrives, finds the blue core memory that is the only memory still fully working, examines the core memory about the hockey team, finds Bing Bong, and immediately realizes the solution. The memory hole itself doesn't seem to play much of a role here. Sure Bing Bong slowly fades, but the space itself never seems to do much more than be any old piece of geography (I guess this comes back to the imagery failing). The plot events in the memory hole make me wonder if there was originally a different plan. Between the sad core memory being the only functioning memory found in the pit and sadness having read the manuals, I could see it being the case that at some point there was an idea that Sadness was the only one that could fully function in the memory hole, and she'd lead them out. This could make sense thematically with sadness being a necessary feature of the self by way of being the only emotion that can fully access the past or something like that. This would improve the end of the movie, where we would have better reasons (both plot and thematic) for Sadness to be able to reactivate the controls than just "Joy learned that it's not just all about her."

Inside Out just lacks imagination, which is an ironic flaw. It has that going for it, at least.

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011
So the first few pages have people talking about the mixed genders of Riley's emotions compared to her homogenous parents' and what that means for Riley.

But immediately before the discussion there's a quote by the director explaining the reason: to make the quick cuts between different emotion groups without it being confusing. Also works as a silly visual gag.

All the over analysis would make more sense if it happened before the answer was posted.

I don't visit often, does this happen with every film in this forum?


The lava short was funny, almost tragic and incredibly painful whenever they used the word lava. Enjoyed. Inside out is fantastic, the characters, the animation, the humour. Highly recommending to friends at the moment.

A random detail I noticed was with the mixed core memories at the end. A purple/green one which looked like Riley reading a book. Must've been a hell of a book.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I just realized this. Why are Riley's memories from a third person point of view?

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Inside Out is an incredibly boring movie.

Back to figuring out the kid's sexuality, I guess!

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


BJPaskoff posted:

I just realized this. Why are Riley's memories from a third person point of view?

It's a movie.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Lurdiak posted:

It's a movie.

No no, it's that she's an adopted gay alien and that's just how memories work for gayliens.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Drifter posted:

No no, it's that she's an adopted gay alien and that's just how memories work for gayliens.

I guess I don't know how to read movies.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Lurdiak posted:

I guess I don't know how to read movies.

Its why I come to CineD to read about movies I saw wrong.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!
This is why my memory sphere for Something Awful is pure green.

Anyways, I saw the movie and liked it. Even though I knew it would happen, I still cried when Bing Bong died.

Also, I have decided that something being adorable is sadness, because you look at a tiny kitten and are all, "Oh God, that thing is so small, there's no way it could survive on its own!" And that's why it makes sense that Sadness was the most adorable of the emotions.

Calamity Brain
Jan 27, 2011

California Dreamin'

BJPaskoff posted:

I just realized this. Why are Riley's memories from a third person point of view?

Most older memories are reconstructions and most people in real life have memories from a third-person POV. I can't speak for you but it's relatively uncommon to have most of your memories be from a first-person view.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


This kinda bugged me too.

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Lurdiak posted:

This kinda bugged me too.


The extent of San Francisco that was shown was a pizza parlor, an elementary school, and a bus. There were non-white people there, and it's not a movie about exploring the sexuality of background characters.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Casimir Radon posted:

The extent of San Francisco that was shown was a pizza parlor, an elementary school, and a bus. There were non-white people there, and it's not a movie about exploring the sexuality of background characters.

Plus Anger said he saw a bear.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

computer parts posted:

Plus Anger said he saw a bear.

And Riley is bi/genderfluid/genderqueer! :v:

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Bleremiah posted:

I don't visit often, does this happen with every film in this forum?

Yes, always.

Bleremiah posted:

A random detail I noticed was with the mixed core memories at the end. A purple/green one which looked like Riley reading a book. Must've been a hell of a book.

Probably that A Doctor Talks To Your Child About Puberty book that parents like to give their kids in lieu of actually talking about puberty.

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010
Or she checked out "IT" from the local library.

Alopex
May 31, 2012

This is the sleeve I have chosen.
I figured she was cramming for a test.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Apparently the Blu-Ray will have a short film where Riley and Boy From The Hockey Rink go on a date. Or possibly the parents overreact.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Aug 14, 2015

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Wiggly
Aug 26, 2000

Number one on the ice, number one in my heart
Fun Shoe

MikeJF posted:

Apparently the Blu-Ray will have a short film where Riley and Boy From The Hockey Rink go on a date. Or possibly the parents overreact.

Now with a clip!

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/471609-rileys-first-date-first-clip-from-pixars-inside-out-short#/slide/1

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