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The Bloop posted:The reason for big business to be all in now is to become the standard before that happens Exactly. Zuck just wants to secure a user base as early as possible. I can't help but think though that the kind of general-purpose metaverse he's insinuating, one where you chat with gran about Buddy's trip to the vet before teleporting off to your shift as a Facebook mod or whatever, all while wearing a generic Mii style avatar, is maybe a bit far fetched.
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dot communist posted:Exactly. Zuck just wants to secure a user base as early as possible. Maybe So was talking to grandma through the internet using a computer in your pocket not that long ago
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The Bloop posted:I hear what you're saying but barring an apocalypse (which is a realistic but separate conversation) in another 20 years the components for good XR might be cheap enough that another dorky company can do it in a garage with kickstarter money There's a reason why Oculus was a VR company and not an AR company, though. You can totally VR in a garage. But the problem is AR lenses are only good for AR - that's why Meta has to spend so much money on that compared to Quest, which is a cheap android phone strapped to your face, and the only way to make the display systems is through a herculean fusing together of like 8 incredibly desperate highly specialised disciplines using microscopic-scale engineering to create ex-nullo components that require engineering their mass production in. How cheap any component is depends on how much anyone needs it, that's why Meta has to spend the big bucks now. So the garage dream would require a diverse team of absolute top-of-their-game geniuses using 3d printing technology that is pretty much star trek level, on a project that has left a smoking crater on the tech landscape that would still be highly radioactive. Facebook is Meta now because their growth and revenue is currently dependant on how much Apple and various world governments lets them get away with, which is rapidly decreasing. Apple and the other consumer electronic companies are getting serious about it because they don't have anywhere else to go, phones have been pretty great for a while now, and companies have to grow or die.
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Facebook is Meta now because "Facebook" is a toxic dinosaur brand
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They should give me free vr helmets and also maybe money then maybe I will use it. For RE4 VR.
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The Bloop posted:Facebook is Meta now because "Facebook" is a toxic dinosaur brand I'm not just talking about the name change, I'm talking about turning a social media / ad company abruptly and completely into a 'metaverse' company, changing direction at a company-wide level, and spending 100 billion, per year, on metaverse poo poo. Losing a toxic dinosaur brand is, I'm sure, a bonus, but if it wasn't a priority after Cambridge Analytica it probably isn't now.
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Aug 23, 2022 02:12
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It's actually Meta because it's an anagram for Meat.
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chaosbreather posted:I'm not just talking about the name change, I'm talking about turning a social media / ad company abruptly and completely into a 'metaverse' company, changing direction at a company-wide level, and spending 100 billion, per year, on metaverse poo poo. Losing a toxic dinosaur brand is, I'm sure, a bonus, but if it wasn't a priority after Cambridge Analytica it probably isn't now. Regular people don't know what Cambridge Analytica is/was The problem is that grandparents are mostly on Facebook and it's uncool as hell The rebrand is a cynical marketing attempt to be hip and the investment in other tech is because the people still using Facebook don't care that it sucks so investment there is pointless. They are taking a shot at what the next thing might be but I think Zuck is also a weird true believer in robot world because he's personally a techy nerd who would rather interact with others remotely using an avatar because he's also a huge goon
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Aug 23, 2022 02:29
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there's no i in meat
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This discussion really hits at just how hard Zuckerberg has hosed this all up, because go back 20 years and tell me a company will be spending hundreds of billions trying to get everyone to use virtual environments and I would have thought there was NO WAY I would absolutely hate it
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Bad Purchase posted:mark i wont forget this.
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Dr. Quarex posted:This discussion really hits at just how hard Zuckerberg has hosed this all up, because go back 20 years and tell me a company will be spending hundreds of billions trying to get everyone to use virtual environments and I would have thought there was NO WAY I would absolutely hate it Right lol But I'm not even sure what company I would want to do it now, they all suck poo poo and just want a way to mine data from you
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Dr. Quarex posted:This discussion really hits at just how hard Zuckerberg has hosed this all up, because go back 20 years and tell me a company will be spending hundreds of billions trying to get everyone to use virtual environments and I would have thought there was NO WAY I would absolutely hate it Leave it to affluent white men to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory by way of consequences of their own actions.
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Is there a device that can suck my dick but I do n't know it's a device
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vaginite posted:Is there a device that can suck my dick but I do n't know it's a device OP’s mom
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As others have pointed out the end game has to be augmented reality, we’ve had google glass, Microsoft HoloLens, take a walk you can bring granny along she’ll wear her streamlined VR setup in the home you got your glasses on Facebook will record your convo and literally know everything about your life and sell that to the advertisers while the government gets their share too. Will work great for work as well to steal information, I think VR is an important part of it though
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the other day i had an office presentation where a dude was shilling for his company that made robots controlled by vr. i work for a bank. the first question he asked us is can you think of any ways you can benefit from the technology and my coworker suggested we rob our bank
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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD posted:the other day i had an office presentation where a dude was shilling for his company that made robots controlled by vr. Please for the love of God tell me you don't work for their IT department, because I can't imagine how many messes they have to mop up from vendors dazzling the bank management with the latest shiny toy/massive risk exposure 🤦♂️
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ProfessorMarvel posted:Please for the love of God tell me you don't work for their IT department, because I can't imagine how many messes they have to mop up from vendors dazzling the bank management with the latest shiny toy/massive risk exposure 🤦♂️ sorry homey our goal for 2022 was getting "into crypto" so i hope you have a hole in your mattress
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metaverse looks so lovely because it needs to run on self-contained oculus hardware okay, once john carmack gets the tech down you will all eat your words in my metafecture as my metaserfs
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Pac and Cheese posted:metaverse looks so lovely because it needs to run on self-contained oculus hardware okay, once john carmack gets the tech down you will all eat your words in my metafecture as my metaserfs im gonna join john romeros vr raiders led by a virtual black guy named superfly johnson so i'll see you when youre up against the wall sucking it down
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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD posted:john romero idiot thought code is law when nfts just proved that law is code, i'm sure you'll "make me your bitch" with your inferior tech daddy e: editors note: turns out john romero actually said design is law and this post sucks Pac and Cheese fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Aug 23, 2022 |
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Pac and Cheese posted:e: editors note: turns out john romero actually said design is law and this post sucks ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD posted:suck... it down
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Dr. Quarex posted:This discussion really hits at just how hard Zuckerberg has hosed this all up, because go back 20 years and tell me a company will be spending hundreds of billions trying to get everyone to use virtual environments and I would have thought there was NO WAY I would absolutely hate it Seriously, this is the most hosed up part about all of this - I’m a giant nerd and grew up loving nerd poo poo but absolutely nothing about this is exciting or interesting even from just a nerd standpoint. I don’t give a gently caress about VR even though it is right up my alley can’t tell if I’m just getting old or technology has already reached the dystopian tipping point where everything feels like a cynical attempt to find new ways to advertise to you
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Hololens still exists, you just don't hear about it because they aimed it only at commercial people and the US military. Also because I think it has been wildly financially unsuccessful.
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The Bloop posted:W🎩 3d movies are a good example I think the problem is that fundamentally the vast majority of people categorically don't want to be immersed in media to the point of building obstacles between themselves and the real world and / or tethering themselves to the media in a way that limits them irl. So just like with 3d movies, VR will never become more than a fad / niche product no matter how mature because the nature of the technology goes against the needs of the majority of the public, regardless of how sophisticated it can get. Maybe there's a case for AR as a useful application of the concept in some limited cases, we'll see.
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Buce posted:is it possible mark zuckeberg is a scanner from the Cordwainer Smith Extended Universe? Has he ever told us what he lives for?
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Relaxing in the bath, I hear what sounds like distorted, far-off mumbling. Looking around in idle confusion I see nothing. The mumbling gets louder. I reach for the side of hte bath to pull myself upwards. Something strange about the back of my hand? I turn my left hand toward my face and retch. The tip of every finger is Mark Zuckerberg's face, looking and judging. "More data" says my Zuckerthumb and I pass out
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chaosbreather posted:Exactly, so making them not dork goggles is the goal that will cost Facebook everything to maybe enable another company to achieve. I think you provided the better analogy here, which is ham radio. It'll be useful to some professions and some weird hobbyists, but most people won't bother because they can already do everything they actually want on a telephone::computer.
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steinrokkan posted:3d movies are a good example I agree that that is 100% a possibility and I stand by the comparison. But I'm enough of a sci-fi tech nerd to be able to image multiple tech fixes for both that could overcome that reluctance. It's funny but 3d movies may actually need MORE help because they're so.... one dimensional. They don't really do anything for you. But if future heads up display AR glasses/ eyeball projectors/ brain holograms/ whatever are giving other people information and access to things you don't have, you may be willing to suffer a little inconvenience for it. A bit like carrying a phone everywhere and making sure it's charged, wearing a smart watch/Fitbit, or even just wearing regular glasses.
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How do I commit a genocide in the metaverse
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The Saddest Rhino posted:How do I commit a genocide in the metaverse Pull the plug
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the metaverse could be useful for simulating the crucifixion of mark zuckerberg
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The Moon Monster posted:Has he ever told us what he lives for?
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The Saddest Rhino posted:How do I commit a genocide in the metaverse 1,000,000 MetaBux for the nuke launcher.
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Everyone knows that in the future, the VR goggles will go away and we'll just have holograms. So there will be meetings at tables where everyone is in a different place but it looks like everyone is sitting at the same table for a meeting. Each person sees a hologram of everyone else. So since that will surely happen in the future, smart companies are going to start preparing for that right now, so they'll have the upper hand and be on top, in the future. That best explains The Metaverse. Investors should be happy.
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I'll have a lot of respect Zuck if he ships out 7.5 billion headsets at once and detonates the hidden bombs in them all at the same time.
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VR is not going to become mainstream until porn is feelable, smellable and lickable. End of loving story. Mommy and Daddy will always be sure to make a big deal out of how much their little Timmy enjoys Beatsaber, but until both of them can get hosed by a sweaty werewolf that smells and tastes like it has just pissed on itself the tech will be doomed to nichedom.
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