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His Divine Shadow posted:My boss has the byzantine system and nearly 100gb of saved mails, but no rules. He doesn't know how to use them. He sorts everything manually. I didn't think any of my coworkers were goons anymore. Also email-chat: I have jr coworkers who don't check their email all day. These are so junior they should only get 1-5 emails a day. I have to call them "open your email and do that task." I understand it is a generational evolution. But they literally don't have work to do that isn't assigned by others.
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Volmarias posted:Have you told them "I regret to inform you that this is not actually my problem" yet? Hilariously, I was told that when I took this job that part of what I did was to unfuck situations like this. Every time I've put my foot down on not just fixing everything for other groups I've been told by my management to pull back and do everything by myself instead. I had a 20 minute conversation with my direct supervisor on Friday about how I need these teams to unfuck themselves (used those words) because the multiple people who were supposed to be taking these responsibilities from me weren't going to be able to deal with these things. They still haven't, and the teams haven't unfucked themselves knowing I was going away. Suddenly, telling them they needed to fix things in harsher normal terms was too much. Guess what? I finally got everyone into a call and they agreed things were wrong and needed fixing. Wow, spending a year of just doing what people wanted and having problems every other order over that time did nothing, so clearly calling everyone out was a bad move. My boss and I have a conversation set up for Friday about this and other topics, I'm done dealing with this entitled poo poo.
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Cthulu Carl posted:*Narrowing my eyes at the IT tech with 'Born to Agile' written on his graphic tee and wearing a Report Spam icon button.* ... Whose side are you on? Born to Agile, forced to Waterfall.
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Lazyfire posted:Hilariously, I was told that when I took this job that part of what I did was to unfuck situations like this. Every time I've put my foot down on not just fixing everything for other groups I've been told by my management to pull back and do everything by myself instead. I had a 20 minute conversation with my direct supervisor on Friday about how I need these teams to unfuck themselves (used those words) because the multiple people who were supposed to be taking these responsibilities from me weren't going to be able to deal with these things. They still haven't, and the teams haven't unfucked themselves knowing I was going away. Suddenly, telling them they needed to fix things in harsher normal terms was too much. Guess what? I finally got everyone into a call and they agreed things were wrong and needed fixing. Wow, spending a year of just doing what people wanted and having problems every other order over that time did nothing, so clearly calling everyone out was a bad move. You're on your way out, go for broke. Send everyone another copy of the proper procedure and in that email tell them everything not conforming will be auto denied without explanation.
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Lazyfire posted:Hilariously, I was told that when I took this job that part of what I did was to unfuck situations like this. Every time I've put my foot down on not just fixing everything for other groups I've been told by my management to pull back and do everything by myself instead. I had a 20 minute conversation with my direct supervisor on Friday about how I need these teams to unfuck themselves (used those words) because the multiple people who were supposed to be taking these responsibilities from me weren't going to be able to deal with these things. They still haven't, and the teams haven't unfucked themselves knowing I was going away. Suddenly, telling them they needed to fix things in harsher normal terms was too much. Guess what? I finally got everyone into a call and they agreed things were wrong and needed fixing. Wow, spending a year of just doing what people wanted and having problems every other order over that time did nothing, so clearly calling everyone out was a bad move.
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Scientastic posted:Is it safe to assume you live in America? If you did that in the UK, you could pretty much expect an immediate lawsuit, employment lawyers would have an absolute field day with anyone who did that. Hell yeah America #1
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Thesaurus posted:Good for you. These days I'd be nervous to give more than a few weeks notice. I've heard too many stories of people who give notice and are told that their resignation is accepted effective immediately. Another version is the employee who voices that they are job searching and is quickly replaced. Yet another version is the dissatisfied employee who raises the topic of a severance agreement with HR and is shown the door, empty handed. I was a bit nervous but I really didn’t want to be shouldering this, it feels dishonest to the small team I work with. In order to keep estimates accurate, it’s best to know I’m not gonna be there. My company is small, I’ve been there for 10 years, and as much as I want to leave, I genuinely like 90% of the people there. The other 10% aren’t nasty or terrible. The weirdest part of all of this was I broadcast I was thinking of this over a year ago and there was no action to try and keep me or negotiate. It was just so lovely on their part. Also, as I mentioned, I’m seeing a project through to finish - one I estimated and did critical cost-saving design work on 2 years ago. It’s in the middle of production - if I left with 2 weeks notice, I’d be nearly impossible to replace, and they’d be really hosed on trying to finish parts that require my skill set.
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There's something so satisfying about seeing someone incompetent get dunked on by management. Just shut down. In writing. And there I am on the cc list. drat what a rush 
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My manager texted me this evening asking if I had an update on X Checked my outbox, let’s see I sent him X with my part done and all the stuff he needed to do highlighted on…April 24th So no boss, I guess I don’t have an update for you.
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:I was a bit nervous but I really didn’t want to be shouldering this, it feels dishonest to the small team I work with. In order to keep estimates accurate, it’s best to know I’m not gonna be there. So it's the perfect time to leave, is what you're saying?
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pumped up for school posted:I didn't think any of my coworkers were goons anymore. im pretty sure the dudes at my work who play magic the gathering in the lunch room and make extremely dated internet references are goons but like heck am i gonna out myself if any of them ever catch on and ask if i have stairs in my house im gonna say "no i rent an apartment, i dont get paid enough for a house" and force a look of visible confusion
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Lazyfire posted:Hilariously, I was told that when I took this job that part of what I did was to unfuck situations like this. Every time I've put my foot down on not just fixing everything for other groups I've been told by my management to pull back and do everything by myself instead. I had a 20 minute conversation with my direct supervisor on Friday about how I need these teams to unfuck themselves (used those words) because the multiple people who were supposed to be taking these responsibilities from me weren't going to be able to deal with these things. They still haven't, and the teams haven't unfucked themselves knowing I was going away. Suddenly, telling them they needed to fix things in harsher normal terms was too much. Guess what? I finally got everyone into a call and they agreed things were wrong and needed fixing. Wow, spending a year of just doing what people wanted and having problems every other order over that time did nothing, so clearly calling everyone out was a bad move. Just bring up the parable (or whatever the term is) of “Teach a man to fish”. It is perfectly applicable. If you keep fixing other departments fuckups, they will never ever fix their broken process. Once you stop fishing for them and feel the pain of their fuckups, they will either learn to do things correctly, or clear the way for those that will. Sucks that your boss is such a spineless coward that he won’t back you up in putting those responsibilities on the proper departments until it comes to a head like this.
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So I've complained about our sales guy that insists on only mac products before in this thread multiple times. He has a team of 3, they're the only 3 macs in the building. Well he just hired a 4th person. In the lead up he was very adamant that things are perfect for his new sales person, down to picking the macbook he wanted (fine) and specifying that it had to be space gray. Why? Dunno. The day new person is supposed to start gets here and I see now why he's been fretting and trying to get everything perfect for this one, vs previously when he's hired people. She's a beautiful, tiny asian girl and he's very obviously attracted to her. She had a dual monitor setup that she inherited from the previous person who was at that desk. They're curved monitors. I checked on her a few days in and she wasn't using them, asked if everything was ok, she says she's not sure she wants to use two monitors and is fine with one plus the laptop screen. Ok cool, no problem, set the other monitor aside and I'll grab it later. I get an email from sales guy this morning at like 6 am asking if she can have a flat monitor instead of the curved monitor, and would I go find someone that wants to trade with her. Keep in mind 1. we aren't a big company and 2. I have an actual job that isn't IT, I'm shorthanded as gently caress right now, and he's aware of this. I told him as nicely as possible that if he thought I was going to go around the building and see if anyone wanted to trade monitors he was out of his god damned mind.
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i know this is the white collar degree haver gripe zone, but can i bitch about my job for a bit? i work at a concert venue that is also a bar, obviously. the owner is such an absolute starfucker and just lets the talent get away with whatever. wanna treat us like poo poo? wanna start 45 minutes late for no reason? hell yeah go ahead! management is a loving joke, all of them are hardcore drunks, which yeah i get it's nightlife industry, but maybe don't be so fuckin' blasted you can't even fill in a spreadsheet. the low level staff basically ends up running the show 90% of the time because we all know what has to be done, management is just there to gladhand talent and sign off on the most basic poo poo. but it's a "cool job!" so nothing ever changes because leagues of people are signing up to work because they think it'll be neat and fun.
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Million Ghosts posted:i know this is the white collar degree haver gripe zone, but can i bitch about my job for a bit? This sounds like a local place by me that the owner is a family friend. Would not surprise me at all, but I bet that's almost every type of small concert venue like this.
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All workplaces are dumb and lovely in their own ways.
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Because of this thread I have looked into auto-sort rules, which I have never used before. I spent a couple hours yesterday literally sorting and categorizing and making rules for things. It's like I'm born anew, my eyes have been opened.
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Dameius posted:Also all laborers are welcome here. Welcome, friend, and be among others who have dealt with bullshit from above.
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Volmarias posted:bullshit from above. It's like that tattoo from Starship Troopers, only it's a Teams icon not a flaming skull.
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the shittiest part is, as a person, i really like the owner. we got along super well, we have the same taste in music, he's extremely nice to the point where when i was couchsurfing he gave me an open offer to crash at his place as long as i needed. by all non-business metrics he's an awesome dude. but he should not be in charge of anything ever. he shows up to work already drunk, drinks throughout his shift, and doesn't really pay attention to what's going on past doing a loop between a few people and asking the same questions. and then he spends the rest of it sucking up to talent and letting them just steamroll us. like it's a give and take relationship between venues and artists, neither of us would be here without the other. but soooooooooooo much talent just tries to big time and act like they're the most important poo poo in the world. i've been berated so loving hard by random tour managers for things like not giving out VIP passes for the girls the band is trying to bang and it's like dude i have a list, literally my job is making sure people get in or don't, don't yell at me about it. it's also stupid because for the most part i do like my job, but the areas that suck are so obvious to everyone except the people who could actually change anything. be nice to your venue staff, we notice it.
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Dameius posted:Also all laborers are welcome here. Corpos get out; you have their own thread in BFC!
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~Coxy posted:Corpos get out; you have their own thread in BFC! Look at this jagoff trying to break class solidarity
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Million Ghosts posted:the shittiest part is, as a person, i really like the owner. we got along super well, we have the same taste in music, he's extremely nice to the point where when i was couchsurfing he gave me an open offer to crash at his place as long as i needed. by all non-business metrics he's an awesome dude. but he should not be in charge of anything ever. he shows up to work already drunk, drinks throughout his shift, and doesn't really pay attention to what's going on past doing a loop between a few people and asking the same questions. and then he spends the rest of it sucking up to talent and letting them just steamroll us. like it's a give and take relationship between venues and artists, neither of us would be here without the other. but soooooooooooo much talent just tries to big time and act like they're the most important poo poo in the world. i've been berated so loving hard by random tour managers for things like not giving out VIP passes for the girls the band is trying to bang and it's like dude i have a list, literally my job is making sure people get in or don't, don't yell at me about it. Does your venue get like actual famous musicians or is your boss bending over for lovely local bands?
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we aren't booking like Iron Maiden or Garth Brooks or whatever, but we get some pretty big or big at one point names. but we do a solid amount of bending over for locals and regionals and cult acts in a baffling way.
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Owner showing up drunk and/or drinking on the job is a classic ingredient for a hosed up workplace. Sexual harassment issues are sure to follow
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Success story. Every year I teach one semester at a nurse college (survival English conversion). I do 7 lessons and the final test, another teacher does 8 lessons. Our lessons don't conflict because he follows the textbook and I use my own worksheets. Old 2024 schedule: May 5 lessons June 3 lessons July 3 lessons August 2 lessons September 2 lessons October final test My first lesson was today and I asked the office if we could tidy the schedule up so the test wasn't so far out (scheduled for the monday after a 4 day festival weekend, lmao). The other teacher was totally fine changing his schedule, the office just hadn't tried asking. New 2024 schedule: May 6 lessons June 6 lessons July 3 lessons, final test 
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peanut posted:Success story. Capital Letdown posted:Because of this thread I have looked into auto-sort rules, which I have never used before. I spent a couple hours yesterday literally sorting and categorizing and making rules for things.
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Capital Letdown posted:Because of this thread I have looked into auto-sort rules, which I have never used before. I spent a couple hours yesterday literally sorting and categorizing and making rules for things. Why would you spend hours setting up a system to not read emails, while you would have spent 0 seconds just not reading them in the first place Note: I sit on a fairly modest 2025 unread emails in my inbox
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Million Ghosts posted:i know this is the white collar degree haver gripe zone, but can i bitch about my job for a bit? I guess I'll give it another shot as I've reached the end of this one again.
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Sekenr posted:Why would you spend hours setting up a system to not read emails, while you would have spent 0 seconds just not reading them in the first place Clearly I still have much to learn
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If you want to make a shitload of money and travel to developing countries*, choose the mining industry *includes Australia
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My boss keeps ranting on about ads and followups, he keeps thinking we can do A-B ads on this finnish craigslist equivalent that has no built in support for stats like that and were the amount of people viewing the ads are in the hundreds over months at best (lmao). This poo poo is boring and leads to no results, just pointless dumb makework crap that is soul killing. He thinks there's some magic word combo like that will lead to people suddenly buying our poo poo in droves if we could just find it!!! He's like moron darkseid looking for the idiot motherfucker equation.
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His Divine Shadow posted:My boss keeps ranting on about ads and followups, he keeps thinking we can do A-B ads on this finnish craigslist equivalent that has no built in support for stats like that and were the amount of people viewing the ads are in the hundreds over months at best (lmao). This poo poo is boring and leads to no results, just pointless dumb makework crap that is soul killing. He thinks there's some magic word combo like that will lead to people suddenly buying our poo poo in droves if we could just find it!!! lmao this is the same sort of thinking my sovcit cousin has where he thinks he can talk his way out of another DUI because he has the right to travel or some poo poo
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Cool Dad posted:Does your venue get like actual famous musicians or is your boss bending over for lovely local bands? they're called "touring commodities" now thank you i work in the event and concert biz and my happy place has been to not work for one single venue, on a team of roving event bandits now
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His Divine Shadow posted:My boss keeps ranting on about ads and followups, he keeps thinking we can do A-B ads on this finnish craigslist equivalent that has no built in support for stats like that and were the amount of people viewing the ads are in the hundreds over months at best (lmao). Jesus Christ. You need tens of thousands of views before you can get statistically significant results from A/B testing.
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McGavin posted:Jesus Christ. You need tens of thousands of views before you can get statistically significant results from A/B testing. All of the Finns post here anyway, they should just buy their boss an account and have them post a poll
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