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https://x.com/v2TokyoGhost/status/1792212030666973607 Chinese gacha games are on a different level
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Paper Lion posted:ive said this before, but i definitely dont think you can evaluate one piece within the frame of its contemporaries, or even its medium. its dealing with the same scope, narrative elements and themes as the old epics. one piece legitimately has more in common with the epic of gilgamesh or the odyssey than it has with naruto or bleach. the thing im the most excited about when the story finishes is the ability to properly pour through everything with perfect narrative clarity, and the resulting academic analysis of the work and where it fits in human literary canon. This post comes perilously close to being the Rick and Morty copypasta.
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May 20, 2024 02:46
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Asking a cyclops how he poops
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Silver2195 posted:This post comes perilously close to being the Rick and Morty copypasta. its absolutely correct
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Would argue the lowest point of Wano was the Scabbards arriving at the port and seeing no army there, their faces realizing they couldn't accomplish their promise to their fallen friend. But there were multiple for sure. no in most western narrative structures, that would be a mid-point low. we are more emotionally tied to luffy, and the timing of this particular low is meant to create an impossible situation of which there is no overcoming. seeing no one show up does not doom our PoV protagonist our goal. like in any narrative arc its the same thing that usually happens. one of the most common tropes associate with this is like the villain is "defeated" and comes back out of nowhere and imperils our protagonists in an impossible situation, and something fromearlier in the story saves their lives. if you watch a lot of 80s 90s movies, for whatever reason this is like the love interest shooting the villain. often times its just a narrative device you're meant to forgot about, usually a chekhovs gun. in any case, thats why i think wano "felt" better than dressrosa. it was both the timing and the narrative devices used. this isnt meant to be some like "one piece is actually genius and heres why" poo poo, its just oda knows how to write a good arc and knows how to write plot and tension as well as similar works. he watches a lot of movies and poo poo so its pretty obvious why.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://x.com/v2TokyoGhost/status/1792212030666973607 drat, more 3d anime should look like this
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May 20, 2024 03:32
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anime was right posted:no in most western narrative structures, that would be a mid-point low. not to say anything in the post is wrong, but wano is pretty strongly structured like a kabuki play rather than an overtly western structure
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May 20, 2024 03:34
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Paper Lion posted:one piece legitimately has more in common with the epic of gilgamesh or the odyssey than it has with naruto or bleach. I mean I wouldn’t go as far as Silver2195 posted:This post comes perilously close to being the Rick and Morty copypasta. but if you’re going to make a case for One Piece’s place in the literary canon, it makes a lot more sense to consider Oda a descendent of Dickens, Dumas, Verne, Doyle, Melville, etc. He’s a great writer of serialized fiction for a popular audience, and while I’m no expert on the topic, it sounds like there’s a rich history of serialization in Japanese publications like newspapers. It’s neat that, like all those older, fancier works, One Piece’s popularity is also due in part to a socially conscious narrative about contemporary political struggles! Neat essay material! That sounds like a lot of work to talk and think about, though, and it’s probably less interesting than to think about Oda’s place in the manga and comics canon. I can’t tell from One Piece if he’s ever read any Dickens, but you know that man has studied every panel Toriyama drew. One Piece isn’t the Epic of Gilgamesh, but I think it would have to gently caress up really badly here at the end to miss out on being seen as a masterpiece of the medium. If anyone has a good link that talks about Oda’s influences and/or literary pretensions, I’d be interested to read it!
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rko posted:if you’re going to make a case for One Piece’s place in the literary canon, it makes a lot more sense to consider Oda a descendent of Dickens, Dumas, Verne, Doyle, Melville, etc. I've repeatedly told my friends who aren't into manga that One Piece is essentially this generation's Count of Monte Cristo as far as being a long form serialized story that has a lot more literary depth than some of its peers (and even the bulk of other popular modern lit)
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May 20, 2024 03:40
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one piece’s closest literary comparison is journey to the west
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scary ghost dog posted:one piece’s closest literary comparison is journey to the west It's more of a Water Margin at this point, isn't it?
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scary ghost dog posted:one piece’s closest literary comparison is journey to the west Nobody has eaten a Devil Fruit that makes you pregnant yet
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mikeycp posted:not to say anything in the post is wrong, but wano is pretty strongly structured like a kabuki play rather than an overtly western structure i mean pacing wise it really isnt very different from a western 3 act structure, its just the acts are labeled different
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May 20, 2024 04:03
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Waffleman_ posted:https://x.com/v2TokyoGhost/status/1792212030666973607 Spent the whole time expecting this to be animation for a gacha pull. Disappointed its not.
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May 20, 2024 04:06
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One big thing I wish One Piece had was more ocean-faring stuff and more pirate stuff Like "The New World is way more dangerous!" but in practice that just means that more powerful pirates hang out there, and not necessarily that the environment itself is more dangerous Despite the world being 99% water, there's so little action happening on the water
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May 20, 2024 04:11
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Begemot posted:It's more of a Water Margin at this point, isn't it? its like if monkey showed up in water margin
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idt its fair to call nika a retcon. all who's who did was give a name to it, it's pretty clear luffy was literally always The Sun God. the drat guy with a moon beard died to signal the start of luffy's era
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May 20, 2024 05:08
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The Skypiea cope is so funny because not only does the one pose everyone points to not really look like Nika, it ends on Luffy making a real silhouette that is far more important and inspiring thematically but everyone misses the forest for the trees in search for a conspiracy so they can make a youtube video about it.
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May 20, 2024 05:30
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skypiaea has like one line foreshadowing nika. the real interesting part is the shandoran history implied by their ponegliff
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I can believe Oda always had the idea the gum gum fruit was something More and maybe even that the looney tunes aspect would be more front and center. I can also believe that the specific way it would come about (the Nika fruit and Nika as a central figure in the series) was not decided on until much later-possibly not until he was drafting Zou/Wano proper-, and that he just looked at what had been laid out in the story and tried to bring it together. We know that for as much as Oda clearly has plans, those plans often change and he'll just as often add new poo poo into the world and just try to work with it. He had everyone up to Jinbei planned & many weren't changed too much but a ton about others from design, to personality to backstory for a number of them changed considerably by the time they actually landed. The warlords & supernovas were never part of The Plan but at this point that's irrelevant; he brought them into the fold to varying degrees of importance and had a long enough runway to do that. There's probably lots of things that wound up being "retcons" we'd never know because we don't have insight to the full story outline he's had in his mind. The Nika thing probably just sticks out a lot more because it felt very sudden and brings a lot of logistics questions to mind and also triggers a number of people's distate for things being super special so they're going to be more critical of it. rannum fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 20, 2024 |
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Yeah it would not surprise me at all if Super Luffy being a cartoon man was an idea on the horizon from super early on.
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I’m gonna be honest, I don’t think Oda had a lot planned beyond “fun magic pirate adventure” and largely just had vague ideas about stuff like the Sun God, Void Century, and the Elder Stars that he used his largely episodic format of going to different islands that are mostly their own biomes to just shelve a lot of said vague ideas until he could figure out what to do with them. but if anything that makes Oda a better writer for just winging it and coming up with such cool payoffs to stuff he probably never initially gave much thought to.
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anime was right posted:no in most western narrative structures, that would be a mid-point low. we are more emotionally tied to luffy, and the timing of this particular low is meant to create an impossible situation of which there is no overcoming. seeing no one show up does not doom our PoV protagonist our goal. like in any narrative arc its the same thing that usually happens. one of the most common tropes associate with this is like the villain is "defeated" and comes back out of nowhere and imperils our protagonists in an impossible situation, and something fromearlier in the story saves their lives. if you watch a lot of 80s 90s movies, for whatever reason this is like the love interest shooting the villain. often times its just a narrative device you're meant to forgot about, usually a chekhovs gun. I thought Wano felt better than Dressrosa because they actually got some loving animation budget and paced themselves somewhat better.
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He has said he wanted from the start to make a manga with "The most epic conclusion he could imagine" so what we know is that he started with the general pirate theme concept, then figured out what the ending was going to be, and then we can imagine he worked backwards from there. If you have a clear ending defined, it's a lot easier to wing things out as you go because you already know where all the dots connect so its just fleshing things out along the way. This is the exact opposite writing of Naruto Bleach et al where they start with a cool first chapter and iterate from there and we all know how that turns out. It also makes Oda's initial idea of wrapping the manga up in 5 years at Alabasta seem shockingly naive...
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Considering the length of the average manga especially when One Piece came out, five years wasn't an unreasonable estimate at the very beginning even if we assume it would extend a year or two longer. Big lol now of course. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 11:16 on May 20, 2024 |
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The very first chapter features haki that wasn't explained for hundreds of chapters Had anyone asked oda in an sbs whether Magellan's poison can be resisted via haki
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I’d guess not, you can block/purge the weird otherworldly effects of devil fruits like Doc Q’s Turned Into A Girl Disease but trying to make poison ineffective seems like the same category of trying to haki man your way through Ceaser’s carbon monoxide poisoning. I guess you can use supreme armament haki to just keep it away though.
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The chinese mobile gacha game looks absolutely incredible and all but i saw a gameplay clip which, despite looking fine enough, Sanji was able to attack Miss Double Finger, so the game is complete trash.
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May 20, 2024 12:33
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Luffy figured out the cure to poison anyway, you just assume that after getting poisoned near fatally once, you are now completely immune to it! 
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I’m guessing that you can resist mega poison, and pretty much any other effect by being “strong as gently caress”.
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tbp posted:the drat guy with a moon beard died to signal the start of luffy's era Saint Garling is still alive...? 
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mikeycp posted:At some point in the last decade it feels like people became fixated with content only advancing the plot and how it's bad if it takes a second to breathe or have fun I enjoy when the Straw Hats go on random adventures (kinda like what we had in Zou), but at this point I'm mostly concerned with Oda finishing the story before he dies.
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Just cuz Oda is a fan of wacky races doesn’t mean the climax of his life’s work is going to involve wacky races
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Ubiquitus posted:Just cuz Oda is a fan of wacky races doesn’t mean the climax of his life’s work is going to involve wacky races It should though
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Ubiquitus posted:Just cuz Oda is a fan of wacky races doesn’t mean the climax of his life’s work is going to involve wacky races Why not?
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May 20, 2024 15:01
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Sockser posted:One big thing I wish One Piece had was more ocean-faring stuff and more pirate stuff
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May 20, 2024 15:09
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The relative lack of trouble the straw hats have had with environmental dangers is just an indicator of how goated Nami is as a navigator
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