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new font snype
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ffs lowtax just buy some forum software written this millennium and start over
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Dec 16, 2014 14:29
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Valeyard posted:dont worry, there is a contingency in place the valeyard shelter for wayward yosposters where you have to be nice to valeyard?
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Dec 16, 2014 14:50
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Sweevo posted:ffs lowtax just buy some forum software written this millennium and start over or just use smf or something
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Dec 16, 2014 14:51
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wesley snypes posted:radium set up the servers (7 of them running parallel copies just for forums, more for front page, a secure server, some file servers, etc etc etc) in this really weird way, and basically  also the front page uses more servers than the forums? i had no idea there is a front page.
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Dec 16, 2014 17:22
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maniacdevnull posted:
no i think it means "some more servers for..." not "more than 7 for..." Sweevo fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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Dec 16, 2014 17:43
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eh just rewrite everything to use bootstrap nbd
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Dec 16, 2014 18:03
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wesley snypes posted:radium set up the servers (7 of them running parallel copies just for forums, more for front page, a secure server, some file servers, etc etc etc) in this really weird way, and basically also lol what's puppet precious
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Dec 16, 2014 18:03
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Mr Dog posted:also lol i dont think puppet was around in 2000 precious
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Dec 16, 2014 18:05
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Mr Dog posted:eh just rewrite everything to use bootstrap nbd no they need to use node.js, get close to the metal, for performance
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Dec 16, 2014 18:05
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Sweevo posted:ffs lowtax just buy some forum software written this millennium and start over its only like $250 for the newest VBulletin what features would need to be added? probations, monetize avatar changes, seperate out private messages and searches to platinum only
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Dec 16, 2014 18:18
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yeah but gbs would poo poo bricks if you removed such vital features as saclopedia or the gloryhole
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Dec 16, 2014 18:21
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maniacdevnull posted:
Wait a fuckin minute here... A front page??
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Dec 16, 2014 18:22
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a front page you say? gadzooks! i've been had!!
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Dec 16, 2014 20:30
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just wait till you see the back page lol
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Dec 16, 2014 20:34
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I like fonts.
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Dec 16, 2014 22:35
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i think you'll find the correct term is typeface
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Dec 16, 2014 22:50
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didn't joking about the front page used to be bannable
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Dec 16, 2014 23:07
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he still bans for it lol
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Dec 16, 2014 23:50
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Valeyard posted:just wait till you see the back page lol
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Dec 17, 2014 01:10
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page 3 
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Dec 17, 2014 07:47
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Sweevo posted:no i think it means "some more servers for..." not "more than 7 for..." yeah theres something like 3 servers just for the front page. radium had no idea how to handle traffic, so i guess whenever things started chugging, he just got lowtax to buy another server or three so he could spread the load between more copies
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Dec 17, 2014 07:57
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on archivesradiums enemy posted:radium's archiver is really three scripts: an archiver, a marker, and a pruner. The archiver copies posts into the archives database, the marker figures out which threads are too old to be in the live forums, and the pruner removes them from the live forums. The pruner does not make sure the posts or threads are in the archives before deleting them, resulting in various sizeable gaps in the archives whenever the archive process was not working (this past summer in particular). C'est la vie.
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Dec 17, 2014 08:00
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at no point in this process did anyone stop and say, "well wait a tick, how do other sites handle the load?" nope, just rubegoldberian load balancing and hacked in css on increasingly esoteric implementations of systems that were never meant to scale. like the wild-west throw everything at the problem until it goes away systems of the 90s, only a decade late
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Dec 17, 2014 08:02
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terrible css hackery? idk what youre talking aboutradiums enemy posted:The main problem is that the CSS should be edited in the forum code, but I'm the only one who can do that and there's no way I can deploy the forum code every time someone wants a little change made. The files have to reside on seven different servers and are subject to a number of different caches which makes editing those files a nightmare even for me. So someone before me made a stub file on a separate FTP server that admins can edit to change the forum CSS, which is why it's always edited live and you see all kinds of weird rear end problems when someone is editing something. It's a terrible scenario but it's what we're stuck with for now.
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Dec 17, 2014 08:03
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i wonder how badly you can gently caress up the forums code by putting php in one of those css stubs. i mean normally that's completely nonsensical, but the css is apparently inserted into the live forums code and executed, so who loving knows?
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Dec 17, 2014 08:09
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you could probably bring the whole thing toppling down with just a scrap of jquery somehow
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Dec 17, 2014 08:10
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i have a sneaking suspicion it is literally impossible to restore from a backup if one of the several servers fails, which would explain why the forums were down for about a week instead of an hour or two over the summer
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Dec 17, 2014 08:12
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i'm not even sure that there IS a backup. theres no revision control for css, at least.
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Dec 17, 2014 08:15
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infernal machines posted:i have a sneaking suspicion it is literally impossible to restore from a backup if one of the several servers fails, which would explain why the forums were down for about a week instead of an hour or two over the summer idk I still think the database guys were pretty bad at their jobs.
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Dec 17, 2014 08:18
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Symbolic Butt posted:idk I still think the database guys were pretty bad at their jobs. well valeyard recommended them, so probably. but i'd bet there's no way to restore a backup to only one server if poo poo gets out of sync either, so unless all your server backups are in a coherent state you can't restore them so instead the db commandos had to spend a week manually hacking the forums dbs back into a state that would sync between servers infernal machines fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Dec 17, 2014 08:20
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infernal machines posted:well valeyard recommended them, so probably. i know jack poo poo about databases + nobody gives a poo poo what i think, so no that definetely wasnt me lol gonna guess the last time a backup was done was when new hardware was bought after katrina
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Dec 17, 2014 08:30
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hum... i don't care for it. (the font.)
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Dec 17, 2014 08:35
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wesley snypes posted:yeah theres something like 3 servers just for the front page. radium had no idea how to handle traffic, so i guess whenever things started chugging, he just got lowtax to buy another server or three so he could spread the load between more copies this is why the forum costs so much to run
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Dec 17, 2014 08:42
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But he ~works on a computer~! Shouldn't he know how to fix this computer stuff? *is everyone's parents*
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Dec 17, 2014 09:02
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theadder posted:this is why the forum costs so much to run my company bought 16k drives back in 2006 for their mysql server for large dollars (raid 10 too). i started looking into performance issues last year and none of the tables had indexes on columns commonly used for queries or joins.
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Dec 17, 2014 11:14
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my stepdads beer posted:my company bought 16k drives back in 2006 for their mysql server for large dollars (raid 10 too). i started looking into performance issues last year and none of the tables had indexes on columns commonly used for queries or joins. throwing money is easy, throwing expertise is hard
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Dec 17, 2014 16:41
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maniacdevnull posted:throwing money is easy, throwing expertise is hard like SA has money to throw around. although they might be able to get some expertise if they actually asked some of the forum users what to do.
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Dec 17, 2014 16:57
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that would turn the forums from a beat up 98 miata into a homercar
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Dec 17, 2014 17:00
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newreply.php posted:that would turn the forums from a beat up 98 miata into a homercar at least it would have comedic value? 
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