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Arquinsiel posted:I think you are underselling the implications of Gunny's hints about her time on Mimban. She hints at having seen some poo poo, and Cassian Andor talks about Mimban having been hell for the Imperial grunts. oh gunny is the best part of the rebels. I dont hate the rebel side or think its some uber clean poo poo, andor is the best star wars show etc, i just find the empire more interesting even if they are evil fucks. besides mimban produced the closet star wars will ever come to 40k. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRM5HiHdjYI&
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Oct 25, 2023 13:29
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The Lord and Miller version had some extra scenes on Mimban, including the actual native aliens they were fighting against and another member of the gang who got killed and who at one point was going to be Lando’s older brother, which is kind of crazy to think of.
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Oct 25, 2023 13:40
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The Mimban campaign is mentioned so many times in Disney canon that it feels like an in-universe byword for Hell On Earth.
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Oct 25, 2023 14:10
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Arc Hammer posted:The Mimban campaign is mentioned so many times in Disney canon that it feels like an in-universe byword for Hell On Earth. yeah, one of my weird hobbies i have right now is trying to make a giant detailed action figure diorama thats basicaly going to be 40k vs the empire with 3.5 action figures and i am sorta gonna try to do that type of thing either with an ambush on a convoy or some general trench warfare hell poo poo. but yeah, i kinda like the idea of the empire just getting bogged down in some real hosed up hell fighting trench/urban poo poo. mostly i am just practicing possing stuff. 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, one of my weird hobbies i have right now is trying to make a giant detailed action figure diorama thats basicaly going to be 40k vs the empire with 3.5 action figures and i am sorta gonna try to do that type of thing either with an ambush on a convoy or some general trench warfare hell poo poo. but yeah, i kinda like the idea of the empire just getting bogged down in some real hosed up hell fighting trench/urban poo poo. Well, if you need inspiration: quote:According to script writer Jon Kasdan, the film's crew wanted to evoke Stanley Kubrick's 1957 anti-war film Paths of Glory and put Han Solo into the most hellish-possible war environment
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Vinylshadow posted:Well, if you need inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7MrtRFg6U0 my inspiration was this. it would just be guardsmen and imps loving murdering each other in the mud or a brutal ambush. the biggest issue is alot of stormtroops have kinda lovely articulation. plus their arnt any current stormtroopers out so getting fodder is more expensive then vehicles, i can get an atst and a tank and couple other things for 200 total. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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Yeah, it's kind of awesome that they've ended up having an in-universe meatgrinder to reference for the Imperial era. Paths of Glory is a real weird inspiration to draw from though, since that's mostly a courtroom drama.
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The visuals of the Mimban scene always reminded me of the Do Long Bridge scene in Apocalypse Now, especially with its "who's in charge here?' reference.
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Chairman Capone posted:The visuals of the Mimban scene always reminded me of the Do Long Bridge scene in Apocalypse Now, especially with its "who's in charge here?' reference. A bunch of imps trying to hold off the Guard or whoever in FOB Sheev.
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Arquinsiel posted:Paths of Glory is a real weird inspiration to draw from though, since that's mostly a courtroom drama. I mean that's true but it does contain the single greatest WW1 trench assault scene ever filmed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZmgeJ5dY8k So I can see where they're coming from. Nothing else really comes close to capturing that grinding, relentless feeling.
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Arc Hammer posted:I mean that's true but it does contain the single greatest WW1 trench assault scene ever filmed. i feel like it would be more "faster" then that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRLqK6S02g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkI1Fxne8AY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhfglRuY4lM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie0CrG3Lgbo more like these. simply because they have better tech and poo poo. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i feel like it would be more "faster" then that. Faster, more intense, George? I mean when the Empire can air drop attack walkers into a combat zone to support their infantry then yeah they've still got the war of manoeuvre advantage.
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Cross-Section posted:I still laugh sometimes about that one squadmate who's just like "yeah all we need to do is reinstate the Imperial Senate and there won't be any reason for a rebellion! It's extra funny because she's clearly bullshitting. The real reason she wanted it back was because her parents were Imperial Senators.
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It's not like "fire everyone associated with the old regime and ban them from ever holding positions of authority again" has turned out to be a good solution either when it has been tried IRL, and the end-result that the new Star Wars EU and sequel trilogy depicts (a counter-insurgency seeking to re-establish the old regime) is pretty much exactly what some of those attempts preceded, so it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference if the New Republic had gone that way.
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OhFunny posted:I'm reading The Krytos Trap and Stackpole, if briefly, mentions that the New Republic is keeping the Imperial bureaucracy in place on many worlds to ease the transition from one government to another. yeah, honestly their is ALOT over overlaps with old and new canon and not just with the fan service characters. like i think the disney canon does the empire and alot of the dark times better, but i like the implosion of the empire in the old canon where empire just turns into warlord era china.
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OhFunny posted:An example of this occurs toward the end of the previous book in the series. An Imperial solar array crew that is watching a space battle concludes that the New Republic will win. They tell their commanding officer to spin a tell of Rebel sympathies so they can keep their jobs. The funny part is that the solar array crew was commanded by Captain Needa's cousin or brother and his subordinate had to impress upon him that being honest at a time like this would be suicidal.
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For an example of how well the “Fire everyone from the old regime” approach works see: De-Ba'athification, Iraq 2003. Somebody should do a story that involves some “Clean Wehrmacht” type poo poo. Have some New Republic officials get scammed by some Imperial Navy officers into keeping their jobs when they’re actual war criminals, but happen to know which way the wind is blowing.
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Casimir Radon posted:Somebody should do a story that involves some “Clean Wehrmacht” type poo poo. Have some New Republic officials get scammed by some Imperial Navy officers into keeping their jobs when they’re actual war criminals, but happen to know which way the wind is blowing. Didn’t this happen at the end of Truce at Bakura? And I guess Baron Fel also.
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It's been almost twenty years since I read The Truce at Bakura as a kid but for whatever reason I always pictured Pter Thanas looking like Colonel Sandurz from Spaceballs. Just the schlubbiest Imperial officer ever stuck on the edge of known space.
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Chairman Capone posted:Didn’t this happen at the end of Truce at Bakura? And I guess Baron Fel also. i mean was baron fel a war criminal? he was more imperial red baron then anything else.
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Chairman Capone posted:Didn’t this happen at the end of Truce at Bakura? To me the whole situation with the administration is probably closer to the Catholic/Church of England split where the priests shrugged and hid all their explicitly catholic stuff (sometimes burying it on church grounds) and otherwise kept on trucking. Under Henry VIII it was basically the same church. Edward VI (Henry's only son) was much more reformation minded and diverged the Church away from the Vatican, then he died. Queen Mary (Edwards oldest surviving daughter) took over, went back to the Catholic Church so the priests all dug up their old stuff and went back to Catholic mass, only to have to rebury it again when Mary died and Queen Elizabeth I took over. The incremental changes that were made to the Church of England meant that the population didn't feel like it was to different from the Catholic version, until MUCH much later when James II tried to start re-instituting Catholicism and got run out of the country. Also this idea of Admin having it's own momentum to keep the government running in spite of itself is what was the original definition of "Deep State". The idea that even if the head of government didn't want something, by pure inertia things would keep happening because of guys doing their jobs. I mean, the other side of it is also that the Republic is HEAVILY decentralized compared to the Empire, with Member states also having their own armies and heads of state that handle most of the business of governing. Although this is also a symptom of the Legends cannon being written as a patchwork where each new story would add different mini-empires and kings and queens etc.
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now lemme pitch a star wars remake of The Baader-Meinhof Complex
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So did Boba Fett ever have to face a machine that feeds on human souls? Or was the cover blurb writer just high that day?
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$7 Werner Herzog action figure Black Friday deal, gogogogo! https://a.co/d/aQhHmiq
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Star Wars is great, where else can you get Herzog and Bill Burr action figures?
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I have a Woody Harrelson LEGO, Thanks Star Wars!
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Lord Hydronium posted:Star Wars is great, where else can you get Herzog and Bill Burr action figures? The old general rieekan Figure looks like John Kerry, not even joking. Will have to dig up pic I have of him.
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It's not exactly EU but it is a Star Wars book - has anyone gotten their hands on a copy of the new book on the making of the Star Wars Holiday Special? I'm looking forward to reading it, though I am happy to wait for the local library to get a copy.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:The old general rieekan Figure looks like John Kerry, not even joking. Will have to dig up pic I have of him. Wow, you weren't kidding.
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Wookieepedia posted:General Rieekan turned down a promising career as an executive in his wife's company, the galaxy's largest producer of blue milk, to become a general for the Rebel Alliance.[14]
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Honestly, if they want to make that a plot in Andor Season 2 then it would fit right in.
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I really want to see a Pentagon Wars riff about the Incom engineers getting desperate enough to sell their design to the Rebels
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StashAugustine posted:I really want to see a Pentagon Wars riff about the Incom engineers getting desperate enough to sell their design to the Rebels It all starts with a lot of
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StashAugustine posted:I really want to see a Pentagon Wars riff about the Incom engineers getting desperate enough to sell their design to the Rebels It would be like a cross between Pentagon Wars and the really terrible Docudrama about the Avrow Arrow that ends with some of the designers successfully fleeing with one of the prototypes.
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