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Phlegmish posted:Started on Yakuza Kiwami 2. Faces look great in this one, hard to believe they were released so close together, but I guess it's a new engine. The controls being subtly different is tripping me up, but I'll get used to it. Look at this claw game noob
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Max Wilco posted:Dumb question, but were any of the last umpteen Assassin's Creed games worth playing? Yes, Origins, Odyssey, and Mirage are all for sure worth it. Valhalla feels like it got mixed reception. Shadows is being developed by the same team that made Odyssey, so i'm expecting I will enjoy that one.
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# ? May 19, 2024 00:33 |
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Origins is bad, skip it.
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credburn posted:Origins is bad, skip it.
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Crossposting about Withering Rooms from the hidden gems thread because I liked it so much!Owl Inspector posted:Withering Rooms is a pretty special game from a solo dev. one of those ideal indie games that isn't something you've played five times already and doesn't feel predictable. It's a unique 2.5D horror-y RPG thing with a lot of resource management and an unusual format. it hasn't gotten much notice but there's a reason it's 96% positive on steam.
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# ? May 19, 2024 02:16 |
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Thanks again to Subjunctive for the link; I have the RTX HDR working well now. I think there might be some issue with the way the max brightness is set, but it still looks better than it did before.
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# ? May 19, 2024 02:18 |
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Origins is real good with a pretty anemic ending, but I also think it is completely overshadowed by Odyssey which I absolutely loved, and as mentioned by others Kassandra is the absolute best protagonist they've ever done in the series. That said, do NOT get the Hidden Blade DLC, ugh.
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# ? May 19, 2024 02:35 |
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Phlegmish posted:Yakuza Kiwami ... I guess you can beat it pretty quickly if you ignore most of the side content.
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# ? May 19, 2024 02:38 |
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Max Wilco posted:Dumb question, but were any of the last umpteen Assassin's Creed games worth playing? I'll drop the hottest take imaginable having just gone through the series again this last year. 1 no, too aged. 2 yes, Ezio and Leonardo broventure Brotherhood, no, holy poo poo it's so shallow and it's extremely weird about how it views women in ways I didn't realize when I was 18. It's living off it's launch memories. Revelations yes, old man stabbing time, great story, concise 3 neutral. Conner got a lot better once I realized him being such an rear end is because everyone is so racist to him. Map is good, the exploration is fun, and the story is neat. But you gotta love the idea of it. I'd say no because the later games do it better. I liked it because I like the series, but it's not required. Black Flag, neutral. The sailing is fun but extremely shallow. The story is rear end. Much like Brotherhood it's great because we were young when we played it, but boy it's a miserable story. I'd skip. Rogue, yes Black Flag but better and you are Irish now. The tightly built games are best. Unity yes? It was weird on release but Arno is fine and the whole Revolution thing is handled pretty well. Syndicate maybe? It felt like this is where they really just said gently caress it and started making these games to be open world collectathons and kinda stopped caring. Origins yes. It's Witcher 3 but instead of Geralt you are sad dad. Odyssey yes. It's Witcher 3 but instead of Geralt you are merc lady who says Malaka Valhalla no. It's way too loving big. If you really like Vikings and can just slam the main story maybe but you'll feel tempted to do the dumb poo poo and be pissed off by the end.
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# ? May 19, 2024 03:03 |
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I completely missed Mirage as being a thing, hadn't even heard of it before now. What's it like?
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# ? May 19, 2024 03:20 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:use playnite That's why you never tell your players their MMR.
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# ? May 19, 2024 03:27 |
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I think everybody should know if they've had measles, mumps or rubella
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# ? May 19, 2024 03:35 |
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credburn posted:Origins is bad, skip it. Origins is great actually, but probably pick one rather than do Odyssey as well.
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# ? May 19, 2024 03:38 |
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Don't know if anyone here is playing through Lorelei and the Laser Eyes, but it's really great. Kinda spooky surreal adventure puzzle game. After like 10 hours I finally got stuck on a puzzle and I'm hoping someone here has gotten far enough and can point me in the right direction without giving it away. Not really spoilery but I'll do it anyway opened up all 4 doors connected to the horse heads and can't figure out what to do with the rotating blocks behind the doors
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# ? May 19, 2024 04:07 |
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Origins has a solid first act, but the rest of the game is tedious level gatekeeping garbage with bad plot twists and an unsatisfying climax and conclusion.
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# ? May 19, 2024 04:26 |
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Anything that flows quick like scourge bringer with a bit more depth?
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Mescal posted:Anything that flows quick like scourge bringer with a bit more depth? Star of Providence, possibly
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# ? May 19, 2024 04:54 |
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I respect that people can enjoy games like AC origins, but I am not one of those people. I really enjoyed the formula of the earlier games and do not like the open world collectathons, you finish the first town and you have seen 90% of the variety the next 90 hours will have. This is speaking as someone who can rarely play a game longer than a week or finish many games in general tbh.
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# ? May 19, 2024 06:50 |
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Surprised at all the love for Odyssey, I thought the general tone of discussion when it came out was that the game was overstuffed and the story was incoherent.
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Phlegmish posted:Is it even higher? How? Kiryu can't walk down the street without getting assaulted, and I'm not even carrying the photo. I had a few instances of finishing a battle, trying to turn around and taking literally 2-3 steps and getting into another one. I think though that it's specific to some particular cities? It didn't seem as bad in Kamurucho. Edit: Also since you started 2 and from your previous posts I gather you liked Majima more - there's a short side-game/story where you play as him in Kiwami 2. It's like 3 or 4 chapters long, each one unlocking after 2-3 main-game chapters, so try to pick it up (there may be a popup in the main game to remind you). mmkay fucked around with this message at 08:10 on May 19, 2024 |
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Mordja posted:Surprised at all the love for Odyssey, I thought the general tone of discussion when it came out was that the game was overstuffed and the story was incoherent. It is overstuffed. If it wasn't for Kasandra's charisma, I wouldn't have suffered through the bloat.
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Mordja posted:Surprised at all the love for Odyssey, I thought the general tone of discussion when it came out was that the game was overstuffed and the story was incoherent. It's gloriously overstuffed and incoherent, but who cares cause its fun to cruise around the beautiful med killing cultists and bedding everyone u can ymmv
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Mordja posted:Surprised at all the love for Odyssey, I thought the general tone of discussion when it came out was that the game was overstuffed and the story was incoherent. Probably different groups of people. I definitely rate Odyssey lower than Origins because it was even bigger than Origins and I remember thinking on release that Origins was already HUGE. Kassandra (sorry didn't try Alexios, he looked boring), while a fun character, didn't do much for me in terms of emotional connection unlike Bayek, and that's why I like Bayek the best.
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# ? May 19, 2024 07:58 |
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the plot was whatever, but I liked Kassandra's personal struggle to reunite her family
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Mordja posted:Surprised at all the love for Odyssey, I thought the general tone of discussion when it came out was that the game was overstuffed and the story was incoherent. It is overstuffed, and the story gets dumber and dumber the more Ubi makes it all about AC Alien conspiracies and modern days. Also, there's an absolutely jarring baby-centric DLC (because of said lovely AC lore). But it's freaking gorgeous, Kassandra is fun, you absolutely don't need to 100% it, and a DLC even gets you to visit Elysium, Hades and Atlantis which is awesome. Also, it made chuds mad because you can play as a woman, there are other women in the game, and Kassandra can even win the Olympics.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:05 |
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I didn't play it until a couple of years after it came out, but I recalled seeing posts here when it first came out raving about it, showing off the beautiful vistas etc. When I finally got to play it, it was fantastic, and I had no idea how great Kassandra was going to be.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:10 |
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I found the Atlantis et al DLC pretty unfun. Ubi content without the polish. Was frustrating to play the way mediocre PS2 era games often were.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:17 |
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It's kind of weird how much better a protag Kassandra was than Alexios, while Alexios is actually pretty effective as an antagonist in that situation. Got the feeling that this was the intended default but even today you have to have a kind of moral courage to have a sole female protagonist.
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Controversial opinion: While Kassandra is a perfectly fine protagonist, I find the extreme amounts of adoration she gets on this forum and elsewhere to be baffling. Like, she's decently fun but I just didn't find her to be this game-carrying absolute revelation of character design other people seem to. Also to the above, I actually tried both (though I only really played most of the game with Kassandra) and they literally have the same dialog. Like, they have the same drat lines with only very minor exceptions. Kassandra's VA is a bit better, I guess, but I also didn't think the differences were that dramatic. I dunno the whole thing is just kinda weird to me.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:24 |
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I liked playing as bayek because everyone was always so excited to see him. certified nice guy simulator
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:28 |
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Still waiting for the first mainline AC game where a woman is the sole protagonist and not just one of two choices. I think the only AC games where that was true were the spinoffs Liberation and AC: China.
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:I liked playing as bayek because everyone was always so excited to see him. certified nice guy simulator *man begs for help with his taxes * Bayek: I’ll work something out with the tax collector quest objective immediately updates to: Kill tax collector
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What I really enjoyed about Odyssey was the cult system. Fairly early in the story, you unlock a menu with a web of interconnected cultists to assassinate. In order to do that, you have to discover each of their real identities. They're all integrated into the game in different ways. Some are part of the main storyline, some you have to do side quests to find, some are just out in the open world in both cities and the wilderness, some are part of the region takeovers, some are mercenaries, some are ship captains, some are civilians you can kill in one hit, and some are tough boss fights. Every time you defeated one you would get clues to find others, all with the goal of eventually finding the leader in the center of the web. It was an engaging way to do an open world game that encourages you to interact with all of its systems, which is something that most Ubisoft style games don't really have. Although annoyingly, the leader of the cult becomes obvious fairly early on with just a handful of clues, but you can't be clever and assassinate them early until you've killed all of the others. Valhalla had a similar system, but it was much less interesting and pretty much just boiled down to a handful of boss fights roaming the countryside.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Controversial opinion: While Kassandra is a perfectly fine protagonist, I find the extreme amounts of adoration she gets on this forum and elsewhere to be baffling. Like, she's decently fun but I just didn't find her to be this game-carrying absolute revelation of character design other people seem to. Not sure what you mean by weird. She's great, but she doesn't do it for you as a character, and that's okay. It's going to happen. I think she's gorgeous and hilarious, and she was a female protagonist of a kind we still don't get enough of.
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Jokymi posted:Valhalla had a similar system, but it was much less interesting and pretty much just boiled down to a handful of boss fights roaming the countryside. It felt like a vestigial inclusion that was just there because Odyssey had it. I hope Shadows expands on the idea. I’d love for clue gathering/solving to be a little more organic, and less rigid breadcrumbing.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:45 |
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Rinkles posted:the plot was whatever, but I liked Kassandra's personal struggle to reunite her family So they could crew her boat, in my case
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:57 |
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kasanrda is hot
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Rinkles posted:It is overstuffed. If it wasn't for Kasandra's charisma, I wouldn't have suffered through the bloat. Yeah the protagonist is just very charming.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Controversial opinion: While Kassandra is a perfectly fine protagonist, I find the extreme amounts of adoration she gets on this forum and elsewhere to be baffling. Like, she's decently fun but I just didn't find her to be this game-carrying absolute revelation of character design other people seem to. I kinda feel the same way. Don't get me wrong, I think Kassandra is a great protagonist but in the plot she's fundamentally a Chosen One belonging to a super special bloodline that gives her super powers, who amorally plays both the Athens forces and Spartan forces against each other for the sake of finding her family and doesn't really have much motivation beyond that, her love of money and just wanting a good time. She's essentially just the Ancient Greek equivalent of Black Flag's protagonist Edward, except that game went through great lengths to detail what a selfish and awful person Edward is whilst Kassandra essentially gets a free pass. She's got charisma which makes her extremely likable but her actual writing is pretty weak I feel. Meanwhile Origins protagonist, Bayek tends to get passed over in these forums and his deal of being a deeply religious man, struggling with the grief of losing his son in such a way that prevents him from entering the Egyptian afterlife that he believes in and knowing that on some level he's at fault for it, while losing himself in violence during his quest for vengeance which spirals out of control into igniting the Assassin vs Templar conflict the entire rest of the series hinges on is a lot more interesting to me. Both are better than Valhalla's Eivor though, who was extremely boring. You'd think a viking protagonist would be interesting but Ubisoft found a way to make them a charisma vacuum.
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Bayek's main issue as a protagonist is that he doesn't actually do any of the protagonisting. It's not a great exaggeration to say that the entire plot of Origins is literally communicated in two cutscenes after interstitial chapters with Aya who makes everything happen offscreen. It's kind of a bizarre way to show the "origins" of the assassins when it's mostly just a trivial thing that occurs after the main story is almost over.
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