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Tytanium posted:Since I'm not aware of any 4k displays having 4:4:4 chroma, does it honestly mean anything if the TV is 4:2:2 subsampling? How much of a loss in quality or gamut is there? This will be for TV applications only and not being used for text. You don't need to worry about 4:4:4 chroma unless you are using it as a monitor. Basket of Kittens posted:Ah, only to make it more confusing. Now I have the M-series 2014 model which I want the most, but the newer 2015 E-series. The 2015 M-series appears to be a 4k though. It's hard to tell whether or not a year's change in model makes it better than an older M-line Yep all 2015 m series are gonna be 4k, I don't think anyone has actually seen them yet though so there's no idea how good the panels are yet though.
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I bought an "Almost High-End" 47'' Toshiba 720p set many years ago, right when the price of big CRT monitors and 720p LCD TVs were starting to come into conflict. 1080p LCD sets were a thousand million dollars, LED wasn't a thing, and there were 120hz sets that required a 2nd mortgage. 720p 60hz sets were on clearance. I've had the Toshiba for almost a decade now and it's going strong. I don't do anything intensive enough to notice the difference between a "true" computer monitor and a bigass HDMI-connected TV on my desk. I've been very happy with the huge 720p 60hz monitor and various secondaries (Viva Le Pawn Shop TVs!) but it's time to upgrade. Also I need a TV in the bedroom, and the old Toshiba fits the bill. It's time to replace it as my main monitor. All I want is a reliable, durable, 47 - 49 inch, 1080p 120hz LED panel that has an HDMI input with minimal lag. I don't give a poo poo if it's smart, I don't give a poo poo if it's curved, or 3d, or 240hz, or any of the other buzzwords that I keep seeing fly around. The price variance between walmart, costco, bestbuy, and amazon is making my head spin. Is there a 'known decent value buy' that anyone can recommend? Any specific brand or model?
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Mar 21, 2015 04:10
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Couple posts up homie (Samsung 6350)
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Tiny posted:All I want is a reliable, durable, 47 - 49 inch, 1080p 120hz LED panel My Samsung died after only two and a half years, but it had an awesome display. Currently waiting for replacement parts in an attempt to bring it back from the dead. But anyway my point is 'reliable' and 'durable' aren't exactly the manufacturer's priorities. When my TV died it was after a couple power outages, but seven hours after them. So i'm having a hard time deciding between poo poo build quality or the outages to place blame on. That said I'd probably recommend get the Samsung 6350 because they're decently priced and well reviewed and you can get a 5-year squaretrade warranty for cheap in the sizes/price range you're looking for. I'm probably going with the Sony W850 cuz ive never owned a Sony and need a 55" set minimum, and also because my renter's insurance tossed me $400 toward a TV so I've got some extra cash to spend.
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Mar 21, 2015 13:08
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If you don't give a poo poo and want cheap get a Vizio or lowest level Samsung. That's the recommendation every time.
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Went to Costco today and saw they had a 55" Samsung 6300 (apparently th same as 6350 just Costco exclusive) for $750. loving sold. The very corners are a little dark and the edge light is a bit noticeable at the bottom but overall it's a lot of TV for the money and w a 5 year warranty it came to under $900 out th door.
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OK so I love my kdl48w600b except for one thing: I can set three two hour periods where my TV is "instant on". Right now I've got it set to 6-8PM, 8-10PM, 10PM-12AM which encompasses all my at-home time after work, however on the weekends whenever I hit the power button on my remote I have to deal with this annoying 5-10 second "Powering on.. Please wait" period. It's not SUPER annoying, but sometimes it forgets what input it was on last and it defaults to the ATSC tuner and makes the loud "snow" noise for a few seconds before it auto-mutes. This was a pretty low end model I got on clearance. Do the higher end Sony Bravias also have this annoying power saving thing? I'm thinking about relegating this to the bedroom and buying something higher end if that's not the case. I wish it had a setting where I could say "gently caress the planet, I just want my TV to be instant-on 24/7". Or at least let me set a weekend/weekday schedule. Or give me more than three two hour spots? I dunno.
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Not familiar w instant-on. Are you saying your TV is designed to power up in different ways, The faster of which can't be done for more than 3 short periods per day due to environmental concerns? That's weird. Do you have a kill–a-watt? I'd be really interested to see if the instant-on feature actually draws enough power to appreciably exacerbate climate change compared to the alternative setting. joking but you get what I mean; it may be a small difference / tactic to gain energy star compliance. Regarding strange behavior maybe look up doing a factory reset Pierced Bronson fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 02:40
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I'm going to liken it to putting your computer to "sleep" vs powering it off entirely. Seems like there are 3 periods that my TV lets me define where the W600B is "asleep" and when I push power outside of those periods it just flat out powers off the OS/etc. I don't know exactly what it's doing behind the scenes so don't quote me on that, obviously, but that's what it seems like. Don't have a KAW but I'm curious about this myself. Going to probably grab one when I move into my new place. And it seems like this is designed, not really strange, but I'll do a factory and see if I get any different results anyway.
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Not sure about Sony, but my Samsung H7160 had to have Instant On deactivated because apps weren't working correctly. Well, they still aren't. If I use WWE Network it won't let me change the volume. Glad I have a 360 and HTPC.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:11
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Our H6350 and F8500 both power on really quickly. The h6350 is ridiculously fast. Maybe a second from power button to OTA tv.
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I just ordered a Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W605 200hz for €490 during an Amazon during a flash sale. Thanks to our glorious socialist consumer laws I have 2 weeks after it arrives for testing purposes and can send it back no questions asked. The reviews seemed ok and my significant other and I are not spending more than 7h/week watching cable/netflix/etc. So justifying a 1k+ budget for a higher end TV would prove fairly difficult I rarely have the time to game nowadays, but it seems that Sony displays are ok lagwise? Anyone got any pro/cons for me? the panacea fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 16:28
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I'm seeing there's 70-inch 1080p Visio's on Amazon for $1000. Any brand that has 80-90" seems to get exponentially more expensive though. Are there 80-90" screens in the $1k to $3k range? They could be poo poo quality, I only need them so we don't have to dick with projectors in a couple spots at work.
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Mar 24, 2015 17:56
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Zero VGS posted:I'm seeing there's 70-inch 1080p Visio's on Amazon for $1000. Any brand that has 80-90" seems to get exponentially more expensive though. Are there 80-90" screens in the $1k to $3k range? They could be poo poo quality, I only need them so we don't have to dick with projectors in a couple spots at work. I've seen the 80" Sharp's for ~$2500. The main problem is hardly anyone makes/buys TVs over 70". Hell, 70" selection is pretty limited.
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the panacea posted:I rarely have the time to game nowadays, but it seems that Sony displays are ok lagwise? From what I've read Sony lag response times are among the best. I'm looking for a "cheaper" TV, 55-65" mostly for gaming but I also watch sports so I want 120 refresh too. That 70" Vizio is enticing too but I'm not sure I could fit it comfortably.
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If the rumor is to be believed and the new Vizio M series will be all 4k is it safe to assume that the 2014 year model M series will drop in price soon? And are they still considered one of the best 50-60 inch displays for under 1000?
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I imagine they will be clearanced when the new model comes out but i wouldn't expect there to be a ton available if and when that happens. I think stores tend to be pretty good about tv stock so they dont have a bunch of extra stock when the new model comes out.
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Along the same lines as the recent posts, I'm flip flopping between the Vizio M 42" and the Sony KDL-48w600b. The difference in price is about $160, is the Sony actually appreciably better or is that mostly just brand name and a larger screen?
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Quite A Tool posted:Along the same lines as the recent posts, I'm flip flopping between the Vizio M 42" and the Sony KDL-48w600b. The difference in price is about $160, is the Sony actually appreciably better or is that mostly just brand name and a larger screen? Larger screen.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:08
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Definitely get the larger screen.
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Without even looking I can almost guarantee the lag is better on the Sony (although I'm sure it's fine on the Vizio, it's not a huge panel). The color is most likely better as well. Vizios in general are "fine", but not great. Also, like everyone else said, it's just bigger. No one ever wishes they bought a smaller TV. When I bought my TV last year comparing the Vizio M to the W850B, the W850B blew it away. The part that shocked me was the edge dimming actually looked a lot better than Vizio's full array local dimming.
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ddogflex posted:When I bought my TV last year comparing the Vizio M to the W850B, the W850B blew it away. The part that shocked me was the edge dimming actually looked a lot better than Vizio's full array local dimming. Yes, Vizio's FALD is a good step, but it's still a budget TV and the panel shows it. Still fantastic value for the price and all most people would ever want, but FALD is not a panacea for black levels or panel uniformity.
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The question is what is the source of the $160 price difference, not which he should get. The source of that price difference is the size of the screen. The equivalently sized Vizio M series is almost exactly the same price as the KDL-48w600b.
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I'm looking at 55" Sonys right now, the W950 is down to under a grand and seems like a smart bet, their 2015 models are all androided up and I have zero need for a smart TV, [or speakers or even flexible input] all I really need is a panel I can make look as good as possible. Thoughts? I'm open to non-Sony models but they have to have a competent HDMI-CEC setup because I finally have it all working correctly.
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Would anyone know about really long, heavy duty swing arms for a TV? I got a bunch of 65" panels for work and we're going to be mounting them to show for meetings in a big hallway and then swing them out of the way after. Nothing on Amazon seems to fit the bill.
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Zero VGS posted:Would anyone know about really long, heavy duty swing arms for a TV? I got a bunch of 65" panels That would be quite a lot of weight to hold out at a "really long" length. Whatever you use will have to be industrially substantial. In a cost-no-object scenario I'm sure it could be done, but I imagine you'd be looking at cantilever arms designed for something other than holding TVs, with a business end that a common TV bracket could be modified to attach to. Also keep in mind that the bracket spacing for the panels is relatively narrow compared to the panel itself, and a cantilever arm's joints are usually meant to be fairly rigid in order to hold a position, so with the forces and leverage involved you could be bending or putting a lot of stresses on the panels that they were not designed to endure by pulling them out of the wall and pushing them back all the time. But yeah, I don't think there's a consumer product that does what I believe you want it to do. I see some brackets that can pivot a bit, but are not "really long" so I imagine one end of the TV would smack the wall before you got very much angle out of it. Good luck with your project Pierced Bronson fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Thermopyle posted:The question is what is the source of the $160 price difference, not which he should get. The source of that price difference is the size of the screen. The equivalently sized Vizio M series is almost exactly the same price as the KDL-48w600b. Well it was partially fact finding to see which one I should end up going with. Turns out the 49" Vizio M492I-B2 is as you said around the same price so it's kind of a wash at this point, as I'll definitely be getting a 48/49" TV if I stick between these two. One question I had was the difference between 60HZ and 120HZ (Sony/Vizio) and if this will have much of a difference for sports/gaming. It seems that 120HZ may be better if motion blur drives me crazy. After all the research I've done it seems that I'll probably be happy with either TV and never know what I was missing, if anything, from the other. Doesn't change that I still wish it was like when I bought my Panasonic and it was pretty much consensus the best plasma for the money. Edit: went with the Vizio, loving it so far but holy poo poo the sound quality is not very good, surprisingly tinny. I was hoping to not have to get a soundbar but that's highly unlikely. I have tinnitus and tinny speakers just kill me. Gonna play around with the EQ and see if I can't make it work. Quite A Tool fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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I'm looking for a wall mount that can mount a 37in Sony Bravia and pull out/swivel by 90 degrees safely (basically mount it to a wall parallel to my bed and turn the TV 90 degrees to watch in bed). Any thoughts?
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Golashes posted:I'm looking for a wall mount that can mount a 37in Sony Bravia and pull out/swivel by 90 degrees safely (basically mount it to a wall parallel to my bed and turn the TV 90 degrees to watch in bed). Any thoughts? Just search for corner mount http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082821&p_id=8586&seq=1&format=2
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Awesome, thank you.
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So I just bought a new townhouse and I'm in the market for a TV. I know 55" is a wonderful size and seems to have a sweet spot for pricing (especially with 'better' models compared to dropping down quality for size.) I'm trying to stay right around the $1000 mark here and under is preferable. I know we really like the Vizio E-Series here for budget TVs; especially at the 60" range. I need some help in getting a feel for options. I was browsing the best buy ad and ran into this as one option at the 65" range: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-class-64-1-2-diag--led-1080p-hdtv/9200114.p?id=1219398339445&skuId=9200114 Model: 65LB5200 The pros of this seem like it's a huge TV given the price point. It does not have Smart TV capabilities (don't care, will be using Apple TV and Chromecast.) I'm primarily a PC gamer but wouldn't mind a console again at some point. My understanding is this is a budget panel and a 60hz television. The real upside is that size:price ratio though. However, I'd hate to buy a huge TV with a poor picture. That'd be really noticeable. Then again I'm not that crazy. There's a couple other options. I know we really like the Sony W850B which seems to get stellar reviews particularly for gaming. It's a bit up there in price. There was also this option in the ad which seems to have solid reviews online: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-60-class-60-diag--led-1080p-smart-hdtv-black/4325007.p?id=1219097782898&skuId=4325007 Model: UN60H6350AFXZA It's panel sees solid reviews from what I understand and it has the bonus of being a 120hz TV. It's definitely at the upper end of my price range. Summary: Ideally I'd love a 60" but would consider 55" if the panel was that much better. The further under $1000 the better but that's really my cap. There's a lot of decent 55" 4k TV sitting out there as well. Then again I have no idea what'd I'd use that for. The more I consider it the Samsung I linked seems like a hell of a TV for a 60" model but steer me elsewhere if needed. VibrioCholera fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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The 65LB5200 you linked is $850 on Dell.com and includes a $200 Dell gift card (and if you sign up for Dell advantage you get free shipping and another gift card for 5% of $850, and yet another 5% if you use a cash back click through site or Discover card cash back). So, buy it there and you can get something else from Dell like a $200 GTX 960 graphics card or a solid state drive or a discounted PS4 or something. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Mar 31, 2015 15:54
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That LG will have nice viewing angles but poor contrast. Blacks will be more grey. I would get the samsung and use a bestbuy moversguide coupon to knock another 10% off
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Hmmm; cool. If I can score this moving coupon I'll probably go for the Samsung. I can get it on Amazon but I'll actually save more doing the 10% coupon + 5% back off of their credit card. That's $150 off... I just feel like that LG is "too good to be true" in terms of price and size.
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Am i going to need to pay $2k for a 60+ Sony? I say Sony because the site in the OP seems to suggest that they're the best for gaming.
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Mar 31, 2015 18:15
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No, this isn't the 90's anymore. Sony has competition now.
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Zero VGS posted:The 65LB5200 you linked is $850 on Dell.com and includes a $200 Dell gift card (and if you sign up for Dell advantage you get free shipping and another gift card for 5% of $850, and yet another 5% if you use a cash back click through site or Discover card cash back). Where are you seeing the $200 GC? Do other televisions qualify? E: Contacted Dell Support. Here is the link to the televisions with deals: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/sna.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~topic=tv-deals&~ck=mn Doc_Uzuki fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Don Lapre posted:No, this isn't the 90's anymore. Sony has competition now. Right but their input lag times are the best by far
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Right but their input lag times are the best by far I would say this doesn't matter unless you fancy yourself a "competitive gamer."
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Right but their input lag times are the best by far Vizio p series is better. sub 20ms
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