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i've been thinking about getting into gardening some garlic and onions but i was wondering if the small space i had available would be able to host anything at all, do these tiny row planters you often see outside houses ever amount to much, would it be possible with these? they're about 11 inches wide, would that be enough width to accommodate root vegetables? They're about 2-3 feet deep and I'm fairly certain they have irrigation or drainage. another consideration that i feel makes this starting off on a losing foot though is that my family had a history of just dumping waste water which would sometimes contain trace amounts of bleach or soap into the dirt, which has probably killed what's there already. I was always planning on getting some starter soil to mix in, but would i be able to at least use some of what is still there or is it just dead dead and i should replace it entirely? e: i guess in addition i was also considering green onions and radishes like the post above, plus maybe some fall time herbs that i could use the pots for
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2023 02:45 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 19:15 |
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JoshGuitar posted:That space will easily work for any of the veggies you mentioned - in fact the things you mentioned are a perfect way to get some usable food from a space like that. You could run a double (or even triple) row of most of what you mentioned, the whole length of the planter, or do say onions for part of the length, then switch to garlic, etc. But with those being 11" wide, I'd probably just use the square foot gardening spacing recommendations: https://squarefootgardening.org/planting-chart-cheat-sheets/ . The book explains things in more detail, but for example for garlic it says 9 per square foot, so you'd arrange each square foot in a grid pattern, 3 wide, 3 deep, where each plant is about 4" apart. They're recommending closer planting for onions than for garlic, but if you space them a little wider you'll get bigger onions (depending on variety). Once you know how many feet long that is, you can easily do the math based on that chart and figure out how many feet to dedicate to each crop and how much you can expect to get. greatly appreciate the reply. as it turns out i was wrong, this is apparently 'fresh' top soil after they had to renovate the area to account for leaking (i will just assume growing plants in the space shouldn't be that big of a concern in regards to that eheu). when i went over to my gardening store they recommended i just mix in soil booster/conditioner (i bought the one from eb stone organics) without needing to top off with compost. i don't know how sound that idea is but did so, mixed up about the first foot of the soil together with a bunch of the booster. what do people here think in regards to that? i could maybe see 2 rows but would 3 really work? i probably don't want plants too close to the edges of the space since it's just brickwork/whatever, i thought wouldn't a crop feel cramped if it was riding right next to the wall like that? if i planted two rows tho 4 inches apart it would give about 3 inches on either side i imagine. i'm just not sure about going more than that since root stuff like garlic needs the space to grow out too without grinding up against hard surface i feel. i mostly bought the herb options while I was at the store. i imagine i'd find the best luck going to a nearby farmer's market to get starter garlic since i hear supermarket garlic is treated or something. i did also get a habanero plant from the nursery because i couldn't help myself, i'll see how far that goes. i imagine i'd eventually use the pots in photo for the herbs while using the actual row space for garlic and onion/green onions
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2023 04:26 |
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B33rChiller posted:Futaba Anzu, i think that would be an interesting idea although i don't know how far i can take these projects since this is a townhouse and i don't really know if the landlord would like that. i went to another dedicated gardening store yesterday and a couple of the workers there gave me some bad news that they doubt the planters can handle growing anything other than succulents because that space mostly gets afternoon sun which is apparently the death period according to them, since the entire soil area would be heated up by the brickwork and whatnot as well. but i have anecdotal proof that some green onions did grow at least in pots before so i still think it'd be worth a shot trying the planters, right? anyways i actually bought a couple already grown plants that can at least be moved around, a couple hot peppers and a strawberry (and mint on the floor). i didn't know at the time of buying but the hardware store i bought the habanero from really trimmed the pepper plant in such a dumb way leaving only the top leaves like that, but oh well. hopefully it works out
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2023 02:06 |
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maybe it is the definition of brown thumb but it just sounds more like not doing due diligence of proper initial research before buying or diving into something to me, although i'm definitely in the more neurotic over research camp and i still have tons of worries and mess ups
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2023 10:17 |
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a thing i see virtually no opinions on on the internet is, do you guys think i should still overwinter my pepper plants if i don't foresee temps to go below freezing? like would it still be best practice to trim down the leaves regardless or would it actually be better if i left it as is?
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2023 11:38 |
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yeah the temperatures should hover around 44f for the remainder of winter according to forecasts. i'm leaning on doing nothing to them but yeah that is a good point that pruning them might make them grow in cleaner directions next year, i'll have to see just how they've developed sometime in december once all the peppers are gone
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2023 21:00 |
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i wonder if i hosed up my garlic plant timing really badly. was just watching this migardener vid where he says if your garlic is around 7-8 inches at this point it's prob bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUVOhaMWoI&t=367s well this is an example of what my garlic looks like right now i'm in 10a and some sites recommended early october so i planted them out on oct 3rd. i had some real unfortunate timing as a heatwave struck like the instant i planted them out so they got a ton of warmth and sprouted like within a week and this is what they're at now. i've said before but my winter temps shouldn't dip below 44f but i assume this is already way too grown out, right? how much did i mess up here and would there be any point to trying to fix the mistake?
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 02:57 |
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SubG posted:If you were hoping they were going to be dormant over winter then yeah, that ship has sailed. You're probably not going to get great bulb development out of them, but on the other hand they'll probably want to bolt come spring and that means garlic scapes. And garlic scapes rule. they're softneck california garlic so i don't think they'll get scapes
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 03:35 |
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i dont know how big of a shot in the dark this might be but might as well ask, i've recently been getting an interest in growing a citrus tree eventually and landed on satsuma because i remember i love eating the ones from these boxes. i don't know who else might even know this brand but the blue jay satsuma mandarins: the issue is that i learned that even a family such as satsuma has a ton of varieties like owari and brown hat or whatever. would anyone just know offhand what type of satsuma these ones would be?
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2024 22:36 |
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trilobite terror posted:I wouldn’t worry about it too much tbh yeah i'm not like that one guy a couple months ago that insisted on growing from seed, i was going to buy potted one from a nearby nursery (although most I see are around $50-60 and come in a 1gal pot size so idk what's up with that compared to the prices you listed). I also wanted to further ask then would a satsuma be alright in a 5 gallon pot? what would be the projected harvest from that over how many years of catch up growth?
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2024 23:23 |
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trilobite terror posted:You want like a 4-6 foot tree to start with. Really the bigger the better, but that’s gonna be up to the space you’re planning to overwinter it in the current place i live at, i don't think i can reasonably keep something that is full bushed out at 5-6 feet high, it'd basically cover my entire entrance way lol. i guess this would just be a consideration i make whenever/if i confirm moving somewhere else then..
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2024 01:03 |
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i think there's a hypothetical chance i'll move within 2 years so would a 5 gallon pot suffice for a satsuma until then? as a reference, here's a photo of the applicable floor space I could put it there's not really that much space horizontally and it'd be a struggle if the foliage grew to dominate the area since i'd rather not encroash into the walkway as that'd disturb other residents
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2024 03:04 |
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are you just going to cut open those cups to release those lol
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 02:12 |
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Shifty Pony posted:
what is your secret
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 19:13 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 19:15 |
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Shifty Pony posted:Murdertubes. do you think it would be kosher to leave these out in a space where other people would be directly walking by
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 23:47 |