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Eric the Mauve posted:In this specific case (every company in an industry doing layoffs at about the same time) it serves a purpose beyond merely hivemind twitching: flooding the labor market with supply keeps labor costs down. Oh yeah just like how they collude on hiring too, the fuckers.
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priznat posted:Oh yeah just like how they collude on hiring too, the fuckers. I don't know if there's actually real rear end collusion outside the top end of the tech industry and maybe the medical/nursing industry. Soft collusion sure.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I don't know if there's actually real rear end collusion outside the top end of the tech industry and maybe the medical/nursing industry. Soft collusion sure. I was referring to that one a while back where google and other companies had some under the table agreements or whatever. I know they’re still up to that poo poo!
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priznat posted:I was referring to that one a while back where google and other companies had some under the table agreements or whatever. I know they’re still up to that poo poo! Yep, a huge pile of major SV techs and biotech companies were involved in that over here.
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Yes that's why I said "outside of the top end of the tech industry"!
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Just say FAANG or whatever it’s called now! (Get rekt Netflix)
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Netflix was only ever included because you can't use FAAG for an acronym
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priznat posted:Just say FAANG or whatever it’s called now! It wasn't just FAANG though. It was more like FAANGBGMPSN where those are Bristol Myers-Squibb, Genentech, Merck, Pfizer, Snowflake, Novartis... You name it, they were loving around with shady collusion on hiring. IIRC the list had like 50-75 companies on it? (I know you know this and Eric does too, but for the lurkers reading along at home, yeah.)
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priznat posted:Just say FAANG or whatever it’s called now! I heard it was MANGA  Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Google, Amazon
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While at a company event today one of the other group leaders pulled me aside and offered to act as a surrogate group leader since they don’t want me or half my group to up and go. Meanwhile I’m continuing my job hunt…
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I remember learning in business school that studies on layoffs show that they typically have long-term negative impacts on companies that do them, and yet they go on and have layoffs anyway. Tech vibes in Seattle I'd say morale is in the gutter, with people unsure if their job is safe and people that don't like their job having a really difficult time finding new roles. I myself spent about 10 months trying to find a job. But hey those profits never looked better! Anything for the shareholders.
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Boss countered me, decently too. More pay, stock all of a sudden, bump to management in 6-9 months. But, all the red flags remain in place. I told him the job he’s asking me to do is literally piss off the president, and he said I should revel in making him uncomfortable. I don’t see that as a fantastic plan, despite a potentially super sexy awesome amazeballs career path. loving legendary, but very low odds. And then I remembered how I’m still wearing boots from my last job cuz a director told me not buy new ones to save money. Tnuctip fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Tnuctip posted:Boss countered me, decently too. More pay, stock all of a sudden, bump to management in 6-9 months. This is, in itself, a huge red flag. Jump.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Tell me more about these boots, are they comfortable? have they served you well over these years? They are very comfy, as not a “light” person they provide excellent support. Timberland Pro work boots are a solid win. The standard work line does not have standard anti funk technology, which is a very nice feature.
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Eric the Mauve posted:This is, in itself, a huge red flag. Jump. 6-9 months sounds like a good time frame for OP to train a replacement and then suddenly there's no budget/opening for a management position.
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Mustang posted:I remember learning in business school that studies on layoffs show that they typically have long-term negative impacts on companies that do them, and yet they go on and have layoffs anyway. Why did they not study something relevant like the impact layoffs have on the executives lifetime compensation?
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Quackles posted:I heard it was MANGA Meta not Microsoft, the acronym changed when Facebook renamed.
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Midjack posted:Meta not Microsoft, the acronym changed when Facebook renamed. FANGA?
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Mustang posted:I remember learning in business school that studies on layoffs show that they typically have long-term negative impacts on companies that do them, and yet they go on and have layoffs anyway. Typical MBA tiers of data analysis to not control for the fact that companies that do a layoff round are more likely to be underperforming
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Sundae posted:I'm thinking about opening my e-mails with a mad-libs style arrangement. I hope this email finds you before I do.
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evobatman posted:I hope this email finds you before I do. I hope this email finds you because the light of heaven NEVER WILL
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evobatman posted:I hope this email finds you before I do. Thomas Ligotti?
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I hope this email finds you in a well!
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Tnuctip posted:Boss countered me, decently too. More pay, stock all of a sudden, bump to management in 6-9 months. But, all the red flags remain in place. I told him the job he’s asking me to do is literally piss off the president, and he said I should revel in making him uncomfortable. I don’t see that as a fantastic plan, despite a potentially super sexy awesome amazeballs career path. loving legendary, but very low odds. Unless there is a contract saying that in 9 months you get 10 Billion golden unicorns I would just assume that will never happen. Rest of the stuff will just get you a bad reputation with a powerful rear end in a top hat. If you boss wants to push the presidents buttons so bad he can do it him self and take the lashing that will come with it. gently caress counter offers, pack your poo poo and move on.
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I would like, in an ideal world, to go a year or two without any major world government deciding to ban or sanction my employer for bs reasons. Sensible reasons are ok.
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Itaipava posted:I hope this email finds you in a well! No! We're supposed to keep each other OUT of the well!
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Tnuctip posted:I told him the job he’s asking me to do is literally piss off the president, and he said I should revel in making him uncomfortable. Yeah I'm sure your boss is going to throw himself in front of you when this particular hail of bullets comes your way.
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The company sends a monthly “recognitions” email. Literally all of them are “So and so routinely stays after hours or logs in on weekends to make sure we meet quota. What a team player!”. Thinking of collaging the most egregious ones, pasting them in the next town hall chat, and asking how this matches with the CEO’s directive that no one should be working more than their regular hours. I’m bored enough here that I might actually do it, too.
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Beefeater1980 posted:I would like, in an ideal world, to go a year or two without any major world government deciding to ban or sanction my employer for bs reasons. Sensible reasons are ok. That seems to say a lot about your choices of employers.
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We're now on the 5th iteration of this stupid timeline and the format now involves colouring cells in Excel and then dragging shapes around. I said that this was some 90s poo poo and I was just going to provide things in my format and they could copy it in. Also my boss is fed up with the PM function completely. But I still have to update the same PowerPoint summary slides 4 times over because of all the stupid variants they have it's infuriating. I've tipped dangerously close to "I could probably write an application that would do this for me...." territory. Eric the Mauve posted:GODDAMMIT ERIC QUOTE IS NOT loving EDIT Please remove me from this mailing list.
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I wish I could average out my discomfort with networking small talk and comfort with presenting to large groups. Just become a solid B at both.
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Lockback posted:That seems to say a lot about your choices of employers. Or other people's choices of government! But yeah, sounds like a good point to raise at the next annual review re: compensation.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Netflix was only ever included because you can't use FAAG for an acronym Excellent.
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tactlessbastard posted:New CEO since January has now decided to shake up the corporate reporting structure so they had an all hands meeting at t-3 hours from my normal start time to roll this out. I absolutely hate these massive reorg announcement meetings, I usually try to skip them and then just ask whoever actually went if anything relevant is happening to my org. Saves 2 hours of execs jerking each other off while I just do work in the background anyway. Mustang posted:I remember learning in business school that studies on layoffs show that they typically have long-term negative impacts on companies that do them, and yet they go on and have layoffs anyway. Sure, but wha- pseudanonymous posted:Why did they not study something relevant like the impact layoffs have on the executives lifetime compensation? gently caress, beaten. Actually, given that The Board is usually onboard with the changes, I'm curious if they studied how long the members on the board contribute to have stock in the company, or some other financial stake that would be affected.
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Volmarias posted:I absolutely hate these massive reorg announcement meetings, I usually try to skip them and then just ask whoever actually went if anything relevant is happening to my org. Saves 2 hours of execs jerking each other off while I just do work in the background anyway. To quote myself:
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