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Torrannor posted:Some characters in Sandersons books die, but it's to fit their character arc or for story purposes, it's never done to shock you. I wouldn’t say never, but mostly. I can think of at least one instance of a woman being suddenly fridged.
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stramit posted:Maybe this is factually wrong but to me it felt like Sanderson had his initial rise to popularity when the markets were getting over saturated with dark fantasy like grrm. It was a great contrast and really needed. and GRRM rose to prominence because of Robert Jordan, and RJ rose to prominence because of people tired of tolkien knockoffs. Which is hilarious, because the first book is "What if Gandalf a woman?!"
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stramit posted:Maybe this is factually wrong but to me it felt like Sanderson had his initial rise to popularity when the markets were getting over saturated with dark fantasy like grrm. It was a great contrast and really needed. I mean Mistborn era 1 was what really shot him into popularity and id consider that the most grim dark or his main series.
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socialsecurity posted:I mean Mistborn era 1 was what really shot him into popularity and id consider that the most grim dark or his main series. The thing I really liked about Mistborn era 1 was the lack of sexual violence. When I was a teenager/early 20something, I had, unfortunately, read the Sword of Truth series. They loved to talk about rape. Maybe not to the degree of GRRM but still they loved to talk about "oh this kingdom was taken, look at all these dead women tied to the beds. they were raped before their throats were slit" gently caress Terry Goodkind. Glad that rear end in a top hat is dead.
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Apr 26, 2024 18:00
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space uncle posted:I just finished my first Sanderson book, The Way of Kings. Whoop Whoop. Welcome to the Sando craziness. I would suggest you read Warbreaker before Word of Radiance. Please post your thoughts FOR EVERY CHAPTER while you read every Brandon Sanderson book. We eat those thoughts, opinions, and feelings up. Ask any questions as well. Welcome aboard!
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Apr 26, 2024 18:03
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Mordiceius posted:gently caress Terry Goodkind. Glad that rear end in a top hat is dead.  Also, remember that banning guns is the same as banning fire, also communism is bad, and also, mass war crimes are good if they are done by the right people. Also also, the Clintons are extras super duper bad, which is why the Clinton stand-ins die from an incurable STD, in addition to all the other bad things that happened to them in the end. Objectivism is the only correct way to think, and being vegan is evil. Also also, being a pacifist is evil. I can hardly believe I read all this crap as a teenager.
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Apr 26, 2024 18:04
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Mordiceius posted:The thing I really liked about Mistborn era 1 was the lack of sexual violence. When I was a teenager/early 20something, I had, unfortunately, read the Sword of Truth series. They loved to talk about rape. Maybe not to the degree of GRRM but still they loved to talk about "oh this kingdom was taken, look at all these dead women tied to the beds. they were raped before their throats were slit" Oh absolutely, even reading something like Dresden makes me feel slimy where the main character describes every teenagers tits. He's gotten better in recent years but people used to complain about his Mormonism making things too sexless, I prefer that to the rapefest that is many other fantasy series.
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Grundulum posted:Sanderson isn’t Martin. He has his own tendencies that you might notice, but he doesn’t seek to write the same kind of fantasy stories Martin does. I never read any Goodkind, from the reactions it sounds like I dodged a bullet. I did finish the first Robert Jordan novel but didn’t really care for it. I think hearing that Sanderson was tied into finishing the series (even though I always heard it in the context of praise) put me off trying his books. I enjoyed Rothfuss, I enjoyed Dresden files, also enjoyed Joe Abercrombie. I read all of the Game of Thrones books and found the latter two fairly weak but wanted to know what was going to happen. I’m not sure if it’s just hitting a point in my life where I’m too old or too stressed out or too strapped for time - but I no longer want to read a Martin-style book where every page is grimmer and darker than the last. I’m sure there’s even more depressing non fiction and people reading that would tease me for avoiding uncomfortable fantasy novels, but whatever. Ok but back to TSA:TWOK thoughts per your excellent book club prompts. Spoilers for the The Way of Kings only: Guesses for what is going to happen further in the series: We need to get the band back together. There’s that very first opening scene with 10 dudes giving up 10 swords (Knights Radiant? dawnbringers? Surgebinders? All of the above). Void bringers / Desolation / Odium will come back. Once the band is back together they can help fight them. If the Desolations are cyclical then we will need to go one step further beyond just fighting the bad guys and break the cycle, which apparently has never happened. Ghostbloods got mentioned at the very end so they gotta figure out what those guys deal is, no idea whose side they are on. I think the the “Unite them” is referring to bringing the humans and the Parshendi/parshmen together. I know the big reveal at the end is that the Parshmen are voidbringers but they seem like reasonable dudes for the most part so I doubt they get set up to be straight up otherworldly evil shadow demons. Important stuff - need to resolve the assassination mission of Szeth against Dalinar and also figure out what the gently caress Taravangian is doing with all these assassinations. Kaladin needs to have a moment of respite and not be on the verge of death / nervous collapse / guilt driven suicide for one thousand straight pages. Renarin needs to do more stuff, not sure what his deal is. Looking forward to Sadeas’s comeuppance which I did unfortunately spoil for myself (I just wanted to see if Dalinar and Adolin were gonna live OK) Shallan started out as irritating when she was an adorkable spoiled child being carried around a city by slaves and pirates. She definitely grew on me with her love of reading and drawing. If she eats any more loving bread or jam I will roll my eyes so hard though. Please diversify your diet lady. I liked her sections with Jasnah, I like learning more about the world through them. The Soulcaster fake caught me totally by surprise. She also mentioned killing her dad which was never explained? Interesting. Marble world (Shadesmar) has been kind of whelming so far but could get cool later.
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space uncle posted:Looking forward to Sadeas’s comeuppance which I did unfortunately spoil for myself (I just wanted to see if Dalinar and Adolin were gonna live OK) Never self-spoil yourself with Brandon Sanderson's books because spoilers last multiple books, and that sucks the fun out of reading them. You have some good guesses but you'll need to read and find out. However, I will repeat myself, and say you should read Warbreaker before Words of Radiance. All books are connected for a reason 
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Also for avoidjng spoilers. The coppermind wiki does have a time machine mode (where you set it to the wiki as of the day before a book was released), but it only really works well for like, oathbringer and on when they had a decently built wiki
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The first 10 chapters of the Dragonsteel Prime audiobook just got posted on Brandon's YouTube https://youtu.be/NxITmA3tads?si=Htjmrl0CaspHQ4xl
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Speaking of lovely grimdark fantasy, I've been listening to Way of Kings Prime on my commute and I'm super glad the final book didn't include the Shallan rape and multiple forced child marriages.
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space uncle posted:I never read any Goodkind, from the reactions it sounds like I dodged a bullet. Goodkind is a cross between Robert Jordan and GRRM but taking the worst elements of both of them. He died a couple years ago to "undisclosed causes" - I am willing to put money down that he died to covid and was a covid denier. He was 72 years old and it was Sept. 2020. Get hosed, shithead.
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taco_fox posted:Speaking of lovely grimdark fantasy, I've been listening to Way of Kings Prime on my commute and I'm super glad the final book didn't include the Shallan rape and multiple forced child marriages. ew, thanks for the warning, cross that one off my list
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eke out posted:ew, thanks for the warning, cross that one off my list
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yeah i frankly don't have a lot of interest in a "i wrote a whole book but i needed to throw it out and rewrite it completely" deal like twok prime dragonsteel at least will have some hints at what the heck is going on in the rest of his universe he's still cagey about
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eke out posted:yeah i frankly don't have a lot of interest in a "i wrote a whole book but i needed to throw it out and rewrite it completely" deal like twok prime I'm of the mind that, generally speaking, if an author says "This was bad, that's why I didn't publish it" then I have zero interest in even looking. Because if it's worse than Elantris, then it must be really bad.
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Mordiceius posted:I'm of the mind that, generally speaking, if an author says "This was bad, that's why I didn't publish it" then I have zero interest in even looking. Because if it's worse than Elantris, then it must be really bad. Same, TWoK Prime has no interest for me Like if some other people find some archaeological points of interest I'd find that fascinating but I'm not going to dig into a malformed product
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Chapter 82 of Oathbringer (The Girl Who Stood Up) might be my favorite individual chapter of any Brandon book.
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