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If that's anything like my house, it's because someone tried to reattach the old knob with quickcrete and it was easier to move up and place a new knob than deal with that poo poo. Alternatively the bathroom door was kicked in and the jamb is broken at that point as well.
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The old knob/latch mechanism takes out a large chunk of wood during installation, and then leaves a massive hole behind, once you remove it. So yes, they just drill all new holes for the modern lock installation, and leave old hardware behind as a filler
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Mar 24, 2024 16:39
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Cat Hatter posted:I think those older knobs use different sized holes so it might have been easier for them to drill a hole in fresh wood to keep the holesaw from wandering then left the old knob to cover the hole. Probably worked until that old knob started to droop Yeah, they have a large rectangular mortise e.g. my bathroom door 
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My house had a few of those but they just attached them to the exterior of the door.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:49
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Danhenge posted:Yeah, they have a large rectangular mortise e.g. my bathroom door I have thankfully never had to deal with those kinds of knobs so I always forget how huge they are inside the door.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:41
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There are plenty of companies making replacement parts or entire inserts, they work very well. Plus you can switch knobs around, and the selection gets pretty funky.
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Mar 25, 2024 19:01
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Cat Hatter posted:I have thankfully never had to deal with those kinds of knobs so I always forget how huge they are inside the door. The doors they're in are generally so thin that you want to replace them anyway otherwise everyone can hear you fart from the other side of the building.
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Mar 25, 2024 20:02
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:The doors they're in are generally so thin that you want to replace them anyway otherwise everyone can hear you fart from the other side of the building. Feature, not a bug.
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Mar 25, 2024 20:59
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Feature, not a bug.
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Mar 25, 2024 21:28
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:The doors they're in are generally so thin that you want to replace them anyway otherwise everyone can hear you fart from the other side of the building. I have a 100 year old house and was thinking of replacing the original interior doors. Some folks say its heresy to replace historical doors. Should I? The reason I would want to do it is nicer looks (especially on the hardware) and better sound insulation.
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Mar 25, 2024 23:26
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MrChrome posted:I have a 100 year old house and was thinking of replacing the original interior doors. Some folks say its heresy to replace historical doors. Should I? Are the old doors hollow or solid? If they're solid, replacing them isn't likely to improve sound insulation.
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Mar 25, 2024 23:29
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MrChrome posted:The reason I would want to do it is nicer looks (especially on the hardware) Reproductions are available for the vast majority of old mortise lockset hardware.
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MrChrome posted:I have a 100 year old house and was thinking of replacing the original interior doors. Some folks say its heresy to replace historical doors. Should I? I don't think that it's heresy, but our house is over a hundred years old and not only are all the doors not a standard size, they are all slightly different sizes as well. So in order to replace them, we would have to try and find doors that are close and plane/trim them, or get a bunch of custom-made doors. One of them was damaged and I ultimately just patched up the thing rather than deal with trying to replace it's weirdass size.
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MrChrome posted:I have a 100 year old house and was thinking of replacing the original interior doors. Some folks say its heresy to replace historical doors. Should I? A 100 year old house isn't inherently special, nobody needs to carry on living in drafty buildings with one inch gaps under warped doors that won't close just because the building's old. gently caress that.
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Old =\= historical
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Mar 26, 2024 01:14
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Don't feel bad about restomodding a house. My opinion is you should try to keep the character of the house, but don't sacrifice your comfort (or safety) because of it.
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This picture is a perfect depiction of what most old houses are like. There's no amazing historic charm and bygone craftsmanship, it's just really run down and lovely and it takes a ton of work and money to renovate anything into being at all decent. So often this is the sort of stuff we're fighting to preserve.
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My house is 100 years old too, the doors are original and the problem with them isn't the doors, it's that the house has shifted and settled so much that the frames are non rectangular parallelograms. edit only one of them doesn't latch, but that's probably because of the 100 years of layers of paint that I'm afraid to sand down due to probable lead
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You'll put up with something that is creaky, uneven, drafty, or just ugly to look at and whoever owns your house next has a high likely to just rip it out immediately. I would only pause if the doors had some cool original carvings or something that made them visually unique. Or if the entire house was original then I'd hope the owner tries to retain that as much as reasonable.
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I am finally down to my final two interior doors inside my (now approaching) 85yo house needing restoration. If you have solid wood doors and are willing to put in a little bit (ok, a lot) of sweat equity, you can make them beautiful again. Pull out the mortise locks and fill in the void with a piece of wood and some filler. Cut a new hole for a modern handle set. Fill in all the little dings and dents, sand, prime, and paint. Door too short? Add a filler strip. Admittedly, it is a lot of work, but new solid wood doors are surprisingly expensive, and it feels good to have saved some original elements of my home. Even the beat to hell ones can be saved. Former owner was a wheelchair user at the end of his life, and most of the doors and almost all the door trim was ground down at the same height from a wheelchair rubbing on it for years.   Before and after, still need to repaint the stop moulding that I replaced You can even fix dumb poo poo like this! Most of the doors in the house are a tad short, I assume carpet was installed at some point. Someone took this door off to chop off the bottom, but cut off the top by mistake. Didn't want to put in the effort to fix their mistake so they just cut off the bottom too and called it a day.  Glued and screwed on a filler strip. Filled all the other dents and holes. So. Much. Sanding.   All the work is in the prep. Now I just need to prime and paint these two and I will finally be done. 
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Sirotan posted:Even the beat to hell ones can be saved. Former owner was a wheelchair user at the end of his life, and most of the doors and almost all the door trim was ground down at the same height from a wheelchair rubbing on it for years. Christ, that was a loving tall wheelchair.
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Love seeing the old doors saved. My 1930 bungalow had hollow-core luan doors when we bought it. The originals were long gone. I bought two solid slabs at Home Depot and used the existing doors as templates for hinge & latch location. Hoping to replace the last one (my office door) with a 12-light slab this year.
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:Christ, that was a loving tall wheelchair. In case you weren't joking, that door is upside down
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:Christ, that was a loving tall wheelchair. 
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My house was built in 1920. It's the old style door latches. Oddly the ones in the bathroom have keyholes on the plate but there's no place to put the keys. Some of the doors are different and I've thought about making them all match. The house has settled a little but it's not bad.
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PainterofCrap posted:Love seeing the old doors saved. I get the sickest urges to drill holes in the top of my hollow doors and use expanding foam in them.
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:Christ, that was a loving tall wheelchair. 
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VelociBacon posted:I get the sickest urges to drill holes in the top of my hollow doors and use expanding foam in them. It's absolutely not going to work out the way you think it will. There's a cardboard structure inside your "hollow" door, foam is going to stop as soon as it hits the first piece. And then there's a good chance it's going to bow out the veneer. Pay the extra $40 for the solid core variant and never worry about it again. Or just buy a slab and reuse the frame.
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Nitrox posted:It's absolutely not going to work out the way you think it will. There's a cardboard structure inside your "hollow" door, foam is going to stop as soon as it hits the first piece. And then there's a good chance it's going to bow out the veneer. I said they were sick urges! But yes a baffle in there makes sense. I now have the sick urge to put shallow mount subwoofers in the doors and use their volume and baffles to my benefit.
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VelociBacon posted:I get the sickest urges to drill holes in the top of my hollow doors and use expanding foam in them.
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i like nice words
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MrChrome posted:I have a 100 year old house and was thinking of replacing the original interior doors. Some folks say its heresy to replace historical doors. Should I? Do what you want. If the house is that old it probably has an attic or basement or weird storage nooks, so you can just put the old doors there and if some future owner wants to "restore" the original doors they will have no cause to curse you.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Do what you want. If the house is that old it probably has an attic or basement or weird storage nooks, so you can just put the old doors there and if some future owner wants to "restore" the original doors they will have no cause to curse you. I have to imagine Europeans who find their way here are super confused about 100 year old homes being remotely considered heritage. What's the saying - Americans think 100 years is old, Europeans think 100 miles is far?
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Maybe not: the way Europe's population exploded in the 19th and 20th centuries means that a lot of houses are pretty recent. Around UK cities and suburbs you'll see a lot of houses that are 1880s-1930s, and then there are a bunch of 1950s-1960s developments.
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I know Japan has the whole "disposable housing" mindset where houses are expected to be torn down and replaced regularly. So would they find value in "historical buildings" (outside like, famous shrines and the imperial palace)? Or would that just be weird to them, like declaring a trailer park a historical monument.
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They absolutely do but due to a combination of geography, history and culture it's more "this shrine has been in this spot for hundreds of years, we rebuild every century or so." Not a lot of stone construction.
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wheatpuppy posted:I know Japan has the whole "disposable housing" mindset where houses are expected to be torn down and replaced regularly. So would they find value in "historical buildings" (outside like, famous shrines and the imperial palace)? Or would that just be weird to them, like declaring a trailer park a historical monument. The difference is that if you completely demolished a temple and rebuilt it the same way in the same place, they'd consider it to be the same temple, whereas in the west we'd consider it a reconstruction or replica. The actual building is considered a consumable, replaceable thing. It is the site, it's function and operations that matter to them. If the ship of Theseus can't move then it's definitely the same ship.
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I'm making the same face as that kitchen.
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The tile pattern layout on the left is causing me psychic pain.
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I don't hate it; fix the tile dimensions and I'd blearily make coffee and tea there of a morning. What am I missing?
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