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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Hello fellow dog turds, joining this thread with my buddy Jarvis.

He's a 3 month old Mini Bernedoodle.

Much as I would have loved to rescue, we have allergy issues in the family, and being our first dog, we wanted a known quantity in the behavioral space.

My kids have been lobbying for years, and when I saw cracks start to form in the wife's defenses, I took over with the deal that I get to pick the breed.

He's super social already and friendly with everyone if a bit nippy because he's an as-yet untrained puppy. He acts just like a toddler when he's tired and/or hungry (read: an rear end in a top hat, heh), but he's definitely meshed into the family well.

He's so soft I can hardly stand it when I'm cuddling him.

Puppy training starts soon.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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So far he (and his whole line) shed almost exactly zero.

The fur in the air was a non starter for me to begin with, and I was always going with a hair dog over a fur dog, no matter what.

I get the idea, though. So far, FIL, who can't see a dog without getting asthma hasn't had any issues with short visits, so at least he's not allergic to HIM.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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He's very much not silky. Within minutes of a brush, he looks like that again. His parents are both super curly, and only one of their brood so far is silky.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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WhiteHowler posted:

My wife is not allergic to dog fur or dander, but is absolutely allergic to their saliva. But even that appears to depend on the dog. She rarely had issues with our previous labradoodle, but she breaks out if our new lab/border collie mix licks her arm.

Sounds like me with cats. My reaction ranges from nothing through can't breathe within minutes of entering the house.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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I'm sure there's plenty of price gouging still going on.

That's one of the reasons we looked at the breeder we chose initially, her pricing was the same for this litter as previous generations.

There's a doodle breeder she's familiar with who's north of $10k for the exact same dogs with all the same guarantees and testing.

Fortunately, stuff is opening up and a lot of the slowdowns will start gearing up again soon.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Yeah, if he's having trouble, you need to get him fully socialized with you and adjusted to your environment.

Once that trust is built, he'll be able to take social queues from you with much less anxiety.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jaded Burnout posted:

I knew bred puppies were expensive but holy poo poo I didn't know they were £2500/pup expensive.

$2000 for our mini bernedoodle. The girls were $2500, and the 2 tricolor boys were $3000.

drat my desire for less shedding and insane cuteness.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jaded Burnout posted:

Also £2500 is $3500.

These are black labs.

lol, gently caress that. At least in the US where that's like the Ford Escort (sup, 80s kids) of dogs unless you're specifically targeting competition bloodlines.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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We got almost daily updates and videos after Jarvis was born until we brought him home. Everything about his personality, his preferences. Getting brushed after baths, etc. His breeder was fantastic. She loves working with the puppies and even has them pretty close to house and crate trained by the time she sends them home.

She just had a litter of toy cavapoos, and I'm glad they're all spoken for, otherwise I'd have to be fending off the wife constantly. We do get to meet them at the end of the month, though, as Jarvis is boarding there while we're on vacation.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis sleeps all over the place if we don't crate him. Usually for his morning nap, we do, and he does fine. But afternoon we usually just let him crash out wherever. If he was a girl, we probably would have gone with Ariel because he's ALWAYS wanting to be near us.

When he's crashing wherever, it varies from the carpet to the vinyl floor to the tile floor to one of his beds. It all depends on his mood and whether he's feeling hot.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Does everyone else's dog flop down when it comes to laying down, or do they settle gradually?

Jarvis goes from standing to laying down in an instant. Banging his elbows and heels and whatever else on the floor. It seems uncomfortable, but he doesn't seem to give a poo poo. It's funny because when he does it on the hard floor we can hear it across the house.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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St_Ides posted:

Our hound mutt has done this her whole life, she's almost 7. She just pulls up her legs and drops, but she now only does it on soft surfaces. He'll figure it out.

Ha, great. It doesn't bother us, just cracks me up. At least we know when he's going to sleep.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis is looking handsome today. Got his cleanup at the groomer on Wednesday and mom cleaned up some of the eye boogers on Friday (allergy season is a bitch).

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Mzuri posted:

Thanks for all your words of encouragement, I feel a lot better already today :)

Current status of Djali:



Such a cutie.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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We've been lucky that Jarvis is pathologically social.

3lb Yokie? Hi buddy!
150lb Newfie? Hi buddy!

The only dogs he hasn been a fan of are a pair of labs belonging to friends of ours. They're aggressively friendly to the point where it bothers him, so he tucks the tail and hides instead.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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That's really lovely of them. I'll get on Jarvis if I see one of the other dogs trying to get away from his friendliness in a not playful way. I don't ever want him to be the one that makes other uncomfortable.

Last night he had a blast at the park. The only downside was the extremely friendly Mastiff mix I met. She was a sweetheart, but I had to take a shower when we got home.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Yeah, redirection is really the best way. We got Jarvis a lot less bitey by always having a chewable toy at hand, and when he starts to get rough, redirect with the toy and "toy". He does better now, but at 6 months, he's still in the "experience everything with my mouth" phase.

And yeah, it gets a LOT more tolerable for bite training when the needle teeth are gone. I was starting to get really tired of donating blood to puppy play.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Sistergodiva posted:

Yeah, trying redirection but at her worst she will drop any toy to go for a feet or hand. Also just going away and ignoring her is hard when she is running after you trying to eat your foot.

Crating is illegal here, but we close a gate to our bedroom to keep her close when we sleep, would moving her to the bedroom and ignoring for a while make sense?

She is just 9 weeks old. Last night and this morning she went crazy and her biting is starting to hurt. She is like 30-60 min batshit and then sleeps for a few hours.

I guess it will improve, but pretty rough right now haha.

It's tough and constant.

It's really worse than kids, honestly. Having done both.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Yorkshire Pudding posted:

I’m trying to go on vacation this weekend so I’m trying to get Gobi into doggy daycare. You have to let them stay a few hours to make sure they’re not vicious or whatever.

I dropped him off and was looking at the webcam and he was in a big room with a bunch of dogs his size (25 pounds) romping around. He doesn’t bite but he throws his weight around when he’s playing and he’s really muscled and thick.

I looked again about half an hour later and he was gone. Checked the cameras and they moved him to the large dog room with a bunch of 90 pound labs, lol

I feel like this is going to be Jarvis. He's only about 30lb, and will top out under 50, but he looks like he's about 60 because of the floof. He plays hard with dogs 2x his size and his best friend is a doberman down the street. She's gorgeous and 50lb of pure muscle. He rough houses with her as if he was the same size as her or bigger.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Friends of ours have a Saint Berdoodle.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Aww
We had Jarvis done yesterday as well
He's got the soft side cone, but he is still not a fan. We ordered a couple of the donut style, so we'll see if he likes those better.

We were also told to carry him over any steps for 7-10 days. I'm glad he's a mini, and 'only' 35lb so far. While it reminds me of when he was a tiny puppy and triggers my D'Awwww reflex, that's a lot of weight to be hefting about.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis is not a fan of the cone.

Fortunately, he does really well with the surgical suit, so he only gets it at night. Even then, it's a soft-sided one so once he settles he's able to pass right out for the night.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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These stories give me sad feelings. We're first time dog owners and so much of this poo poo seems so obvious.

If you're not watching your dog at the park, then you're putting your and everyone else's dog in danger. No matter the size, they're still territorial predators at their core, and a watchful eye is essential.

I guess we're fortunate that the park we prefer to go to has really good people. And the one incident that happened, the offending dog's owner removed him immediately.

Jarvis really likes the other dogs he's encountered there (the 60lb pit girl that flattened him by effectively one inch punching him with her chest, which was hilarious, included), and it would really suck if we couldn't take him there anymore because he or some other dog was acting like an rear end in a top hat.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis is very mouthy, but he's quite gentle about it. As long as you don't try to pull away. That's just how he greets us.

What's interesting is that he doesn't try it with people outside of the home. There he's just jumpy, which we've been working on.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Andoman posted:

My 3 have a cupboard they like to push balls under - pulled 9 of them out from under there yesterday, which was confusing because I didn't know we owned 9 balls.

They multiply on their own. I think they come from missing socks.

Random tennis balls and a baseball that I know I never purchased always turn up in places when I'm looking for <toy> that went under the couch or cupboard.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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In Jarvis's case, it tends to happen when he gets over hungry. It's usually foamy saliva and sometimes a bit of bile when it's that. I give him a little snack, let his tummy settle, and then he's fine.

It happened more often when he was a much puppier puppy, and he'd forget to eat during the day. He'd wake up a bit early and do that. I'd take him potty, give him a little snack, and he'd pass out again til a more reasonable time in the morning.

I'm just happy he's not a grazer. I can give him his food, and if he plows through it, I give him a little more. Most of the time he ignores it or takes a couple of bites and walks away. I definitely like that better than having to take the food away so he doesn't overstuff himself all day like a lot of my friends' dogs.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis went through a bit of that, which was pretty annoying because he's a floof (also an idiot). He got neutered before lifting developed, so that's actually pretty nice.

He stopped on his own, I guess he adjusted his stance automatically.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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When Jarvis was a puppy he would do this. We looked around and found it was probably due to being over hungry. Maybe start giving a small snack right before bed? That's what worked for us.

In other news, we had a good laugh at one of Jarvis's innate behaviors this week.

My oldest was hiding under a blanket calling for help. Jarvis ran over and started digging right next to him. Not quite digging at him, but close, and pulling the blanket away. Then it clicked and I remember that he's half mountain rescue/working dog, and he was trying to dig him out of the snow.

Of course, now he's chewing on the handle of the flirt stick, so full dumbass mode is engaged.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Oh man, Jarvis is mostly past this (1y this coming Thursday), but whoo, the other day he was something.

Oldest took him for a good long walk, like several miles. When he got home he was in that crazy fighting tired mode. Just nutso.

I sat down on the living room floor and grabbed him during one of his lunges, restrained him in my lap for about 10sec and he settled immediately. It was like a light switch.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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WhiteHowler posted:

They work for most dogs with proper associated training, but I would never, ever, ever rely on one to completely contain an unsupervised dog. Especially any breed with a high prey drive. No amount of training or discomfort is going to override "I MUST CHASE THAT BUNNY".

I did a lot of research on ultrasonic fences several years ago, and the experts I've read recommend them only as a secondary layer of protection for when a dog successfully escapes a physical barrier. Which may fit your situation ("we have a fence, but it's not great and my dog can occasionally jump/hulk past it").

Yeah. Jarvis's best friend is a now 80lb doberman that lives down our street. He was freaking the gently caress out at the back door the other day. We opened the curtain and there she was, trying to play with him. They have an invisible fence, but she blew right by it when she picked up his scent. I can only imagine it was because the wind was coming out of the east that day.

They had a good time barreling around our house while my wife called them. They had no idea she had taken off.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis likes to play with dogs twice his size and 4x his weight (he's mostly floof), but has never been aggressive, fortunately.

Pongo is a good boy indeed.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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My friend's ween is much the same way. Will eat nonstop if allowed. Little tub o goo, she is.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Protocol7 posted:

I know the answer to the following ultimately is “take him to a vet” and we’re trying to find one that has an opening in the near future.

But anyone dealt with a little dog that randomly appears to be losing coordination and balance and then is completely fine the next minute?

This just happened to my Ziggy. He’s a younger dog, maybe 1.5 years. Almost seemed to be a seizure or something along those lines. Maybe the second time that it's happened overall so not necessarily a chronic condition but it seems severe enough that we should get ahead of it if possible.

Ear infection, maybe? Or if not an infection, a blockage/pressure caused by season change(s)?

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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They bounce back pretty quickly.

Jarvis barely even noticed, and by the time we picked him up, he was rambunctious as ever. The challenge was keeping him chill for the first few days to let the incision seal up. Kept him partially sedated for that time and it helped a lot. Plus he got bonus loads of peanut butter.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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People see Jarvis and his massive feet and say "OMG he's gonna be huge!"

He's full grown. He just has snow dog feet (and I love them) and with him at 42lb, they're bigger than the 90lb doberman's down the street.

Not apropos to any current conversation, I just want to show off my handsome boy.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Jarvis: I wanna go outside
Me: ok, here you go
Jarvis: I'mma eat ALL this grass!
Me: sure about that?
...
...
Jarvis: I'm gonna go hork it all up now, brb
Me: k, dude. Tried to warn you
Jarvis: that's better. Want kisses now?

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Ghostnuke posted:

Can anyone recommend a water dispenser that doesn't allow a dog with longer facial hair to slop the water all over?

lol, you should meet my neighbor's doberman. She's the sloppiest eater/drinker I've EVER seen. My doodle's beard/moustache gets a little damp when he drinks, he does really well. She comes over to play and we spend 20 minutes mopping up after she's gone.

It's definitely more of a personality than grooming thing.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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Love that coloring. Is he a standard or a mini? Expected weight?

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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devmd01 posted:

I don’t know how anyone could sleep through that hellish cacophony.

Sometimes it's the brain's defense mechanism when overwhelmed.

Re: crate training. Jarvis did really well with it. When it's time for bed, I take him out for last potty. When we come in, I pop off the leash and "go crate". He moseys on in and flops down for the night. Door shut, cover down, noisemaker on, and he's good til I get up with the oldest for school.

Sometimes he'll chill in there during the day, but we've also made it very clear that it's his space and nobody else. We barricade the front and dining room area when we leave and he's been fine so far up to 8hr.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

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an egg posted:

unfortunately i know so many people who've rescued dogs and then been slammed with medical bills far, far beyond the level i could ever hope to pay. the combination of poor breeding and lifetime neglect/abuse just has an awful effect on an animal's health, things like digestion and teeth and joints that may not be immediately apparent upon rescuing. the number of older dogs that need all their teeth pulled is shocking, and that's just "normal" neglect, not even going into horror scenarios like puppy farms and racing greyhounds.

A friend of mine rescued an elderly pug several years ago. He was cranky and standoffish when they first got him. When they took him for a good evaluation, they found that most of his teeth were rotten and a host of other easily addressed issues. They got his teeth taken care of (pulled most of them), got him on some good meds and a good food schedule (he was also super overweight, which compounded his congenital breathing issues) and he ended up being the sweetest happiest guy I've ever seen. He would plop down next to you for scritches and once you got going he would get into this butt wiggle snort rhythm that was the greatest thing ever. They ended up having a good 5 years with him. RIP Mr Jigglesworth.

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