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Farecoal posted:Fist Full of Datas was the best holodeck episode, I think you made a typo 
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Lobok posted:Is Gary Mitchell ever referred to by any other name or title? Or might they have used the character but changed his name? Maybe the only reason the filmmakers don't want you to know he's the main villain is because "Gary Mitchell" is terribly plain, boring, and non-threatening. Khan. V'Ger. The Borg. Gary.
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Dec 8, 2012 22:32
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Tars Tarkas posted:Is it really space racism if you don't want to gently caress an energy blob? Exactly. Racism is walking the other side of the sidewalk because you saw a group of black men walking towards you. Replace those black guys with Klingons and you're probably seen as a heads up individual with a preference for not being stabbed.
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Dec 9, 2012 06:27
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A human heart posted:It's ok because klingons really are bloodthirsty murderers? What the hell? Yes, that's the joke.
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treeboy posted:man this thread knows how to ruin cool things with overindulgent fanboy pseudo logic in a franchise littered with technomagic.
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Dec 12, 2012 07:34
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Some Other Guy posted:Here's a fun rant I stumbled upon: http://io9.com/5967942/dear-jj-abrams-just-ing-tell-us-who-benedict-cumberbatch-is-playing-in-star-trek-2-already io9 psychotic breakdown posted:No one gives a poo poo but Trekkers, and they're not going to care any more or less now than they would have six months ago (or six months from now, for that matter). So if I'm parsing this correctly, non-trekkers won't care, and trekkers won't care. So no one cares. Except...this guy.
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Dec 13, 2012 06:14
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Zoe posted:
I guess I should replace "not care" with "not so up in arms about it they'll write a lengthy article about how angry they are about not knowing a certain thing about a film that's half a year away". Except that guy.
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Dec 14, 2012 04:39
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Crackbone posted:How many of our Senators do you think could read an actual budgeting spreadsheet (and not some executive level summary)? Baron Bifford posted:A lot of those senators have backgrounds in said grunt work. Contrary to popular opinion, most politicians are of above-average intelligence (if you're so smart, why aren't YOU the leader of the free world?). Also it quite fits that Gowron rose so high because, like modern politicians, the drive for higher power is slightly expedited with a minor form of megalomania.
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Dec 19, 2012 22:15
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Jesus you guys read the Starfleet field manual once in your lives. Section 47 clearly states "If you save the loving Earth from imminent destruction you can have whatever loving ship you want. Least we can do."
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Feb 4, 2013 22:22
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Umbra Dubium posted:Well, presumably since Captain Janeway filed a report saying she'd encountered Admiral Janeway from the future they decided it would be best to just stick her behind a desk and hope she'd do less damage than the temporal paradox if they didn't. She would be an unstable element in a critical situation.
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Feb 4, 2013 23:28
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He's a Bynar, obviously, I dunno why there's all this speculatizing.
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Feb 8, 2013 02:28
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:So on Friday I go to work, and the woman in the cube next to me had ACCIDENTALLY dressed up as Commander Riker. Commander Shelby NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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Feb 17, 2013 04:25
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Karpaw posted:The scene is poo poo because Scotty is supposed to be in mortal danger and it's played for laughs, with Kirk chasing after him like a buffoon. I see what you mean but having one of the iconic Trek characters die by drowning in the engine turbine is already a ridiculous concept so there's no serious tension for the audience regardless. The only tone that works is comedic. Only way to make it better is to not do it at all. Which is ok too.
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Feb 19, 2013 01:22
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SublimeDelusions posted:Is it bad that I want to see the gorn fight in a future Star Trek movie, provided there is one? Watch the Enterprise episode "In a Mirror, Darkly (Part 2)" if you wanna see a CGI Gorn kinda sorta fight Evil Captain Archer. That'll hold you over till then.
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Mar 5, 2013 08:44
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The Dark One posted:Wasn't there an episode in the original series where the transporters were out, and they just ignored the fact that they had shuttlecraft? Like, straight up pretended that they didn't exist? Well in First Contact they could've reached the shuttle bay at any time to stop the Borg from using the deflector dish but for some reason didn't. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
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Mar 8, 2013 22:13
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A Doomed Purloiner posted:Picard has a throwaway line "We can't get to deflector control, or a shuttlecraft." He says that, but they totally can. They give updates on which decks the Borg have reached and even till the end the shuttlebay is totally available.
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Mar 9, 2013 22:31
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Art Alexakis posted:Christopher Lloyd is the bad guy in "Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock". And in Star Trek 4 they use Christopher Lloyds vehicle to time travel 
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Mar 21, 2013 23:50
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bobkatt013 posted:As Battlestar has shown a ship breaking up in the atmosphere does not mean it will be destroyed. If the Enterprise warps out of the atmosphere to save itself the internet might melt from all the rage. Going to warp in a solar system is one thing, but inside an atmosphere JUS' CANNUH BE DONE CAPTAIN.
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Mar 28, 2013 22:00
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Or a graviton catapult or collide a Bajoran lightship with tachyon particles. Duh.
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Mar 29, 2013 22:34
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ReV VAdAUL posted:You'd have the certain knowledge Tom Hardy would go on to better things I suupose. Tom Hardy was in Nemesis. No one in Insurrection went on to be a star. In fact I think they all killed themselves.
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Apr 17, 2013 21:48
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Plus Section 31 is definitely something from the Prime timeline that would feel more at home in the super duper serious JJUniverse.
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Apr 18, 2013 01:10
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Cellophane S posted:Nemesis didn't just break Picard, it drat near broke Star Trek. I think it's the absolute pits. Worse maybe, even, than The Final Frontier. It is certainly worse than The Final Frontier. The "Show me your pain" scene in The Final Frontier puts all of Nemesis, hell almost all of Star Trek, to shame.
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Apr 18, 2013 19:59
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Blistex posted:The only thing I really went, "YES!" to during the movie was when they used the phasers to detect Shinzon's cloaked ship. Agreed. I love when they finally do something in a movie that I have been shouting at the screen for years for them to do.
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Apr 21, 2013 05:29
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jivjov posted:Why not? You've yet to provide any argument beyond "I don't like it". Trek does strange things literally all the time. There's no reason that tjos [articular event can't be handled well. Or it could be handled poorly. We don't know yet. On account of us not having seen the movie yet. It's such a baffling demarcation of plausible/implausible to hold firm to. The blood of a superhuman having regenerative properties is so ho-hum for Star Trek. Like people have already mentioned: Q. He alone makes EVERYTHING plausible in Star Trek. What can't Q do? Actually, you know what? I need my enemy's blood to live has already been done. Two movies ago. If you're gonna have an issue with that plot conceit, point out that it was done before (poorly), don't tell me "It's too implausible! GENOMES!"
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Apr 24, 2013 22:19
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Pops Mgee posted:It's still Khan though. Even if it's a different timeline, there's no reason why he would magic blood in one but not the other. Everything that happened before he got unfrozen should still be basically the same. The spoiler says "it is established early on..." but we don't know the context. Whether that character knows about that ability themselves isn't known for sure.
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Apr 24, 2013 23:59
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AlternateAccount posted:Some poo poo happens and then a random and nonsensical device is used to resolve a portion of the plot. How is it "random"? Khan is a superhuman. If it had been McCoy's blood that would be random and nonsensical. But there is a reason why it works. It's not inherently flawed, it's not random, it's not nonsensical. Are you a genetic superhuman expert posting from the future or something? Cause you're violating the poo poo out of the Temporal Prime Directive.
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Apr 25, 2013 22:04
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Problem x? Fling yourself around a star and go back in time whenever you want.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:20
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Tars Tarkas posted:Where are the blood police? At the blood donut shop? Rear Admiral Bennett doesn't find your cop jokes so amusing.
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Apr 26, 2013 00:24
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The point of the bungled mission in the opening scene, after all, is that the original Star Trek was kinda racist. Kirk is chastised for 'playing God', but the implicit point is that the federation actually does see itself as God to 'lower people'. The question raised by the prime directive is this: what is so toxic that contact with other people must be so carefully avoided? Why are the Star Trekkers trying desperately to preserve some paganist 'harmony with nature' nonsense? The opposition between pure harmony and catastrophic disruption forecloses a third possibility: beneficial disruption. Why not approach those people as brothers, instead of as children? The Prime Directive was created because humanity has the hubris to think its particular timeline is the correct timeline and all other species must bow to this particular arrangement of events. Humanity didn't make official contact with aliens until Zephram Cochrane's warp flight, so the ONLY POSSIBLE way for any species to enter into the interstellar community is through that path. Anything else might risk that species not being totally in lock step agreement with the Federation. Warp drive or go gently caress yourselves, weirdos.
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May 9, 2015 07:29
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I'm intrigued by the idea of having a Trek movie set mostly on a planet and not a starship, but it does give me horrible flashbacks of Insurrection. Also I don't think Star Trek is "answering" back to Star Wars in any sense. That's kind of an old model, back when they were the only games in town. Right now Hollywood producers have no loving idea why any one particular film or series is successful so they're just throwing poo poo at the wall and hoping it all looks good when you make a trailer out of it.
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Dec 15, 2015 01:56
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Positivity infusion: I like the idea of "The Frontier pushes back" as a theme for the new film. It at least says they're exploring strange new worlds and stuff, which despite being the mantra of the franchise, has been sorely lacking of late.
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Dec 15, 2015 23:10
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REVENGE has been the text and subtext of the last five Star Trek films. If that changes then Beyond is a winner by default.
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Dec 16, 2015 00:07
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Discussion of the nebulously defined concept of pacing should keep us plenty occupied until release date.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:49
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Considering they were busy writing the perfect series finale to TNG at the same time, I tend to excuse Generationns story flaws. Ron Moore is a talented writer but he he has to sleep like us ordinary people. Every plot point in Generations feels like it was written at 4 in the morning.
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Dec 22, 2015 12:13
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I'm not a fan of the TNG movies but watching them without seeing the show just sounds extremely bizarre to me. I don't know if Picard's vengeance against the Borg really carries much weight unless you've seen Best of Both Worlds, for example.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The more badass the premise on paper, the worse the Star Trek movie. A space station larger than the solar system is on a direct course for Earth, destroying everything in its path. Kirk and crew must journey into the heart of this ancient entity and discover its secrets. [3 hours later] ZzZzZzZzZzZzZ...
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