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After watching JJ Trek I must confess, the only things I liked were the new actors for Kirk, Bones, and Pike.
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So I was checking Memory Alpha for ole Khan, and apparently he ruled relatively bloodless and waged no expansionist wars, refuting Spocks accusation of him being a mass murderer. Interestingly there were also 84 pods mentioned in the original show, but 12 failed. Now apart from the fact I found the movie a mess, what the hell is up with Simon Pegg? He sounds like a caricature of a caricature of a Scot.
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May 23, 2013 20:28
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The Warszawa posted:He's not Scottish and is doing an accent, so that's what's up. He's English he should know better than to sound like that. James Doohan was Canadian and wasn't this annoying.
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May 23, 2013 20:39
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According to various Trek shenanigans Vulcans are the strongest, while Klingons are apparently very difficult to kill.
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May 24, 2013 11:35
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Things they can use: 1) Klingons 2) Romulans 3) Cardassians 4) M5 Daystroms revolutionary computer goes mad, and we must stop him!
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May 24, 2013 15:48
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They didn't like it or: Star Trek - Going Through The Motions.
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May 24, 2013 19:39
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There's this big reveal made out of Cumberbatch saying his name's Khan, but falls completely flat because a) nobody reacts to it, b) it serves no plot point, and c) it's absolutely useless without knowing the original movies/series.
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May 25, 2013 10:07
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Quite frankly, if a character is supposed to be from a certain region, I expect him to look like people in said region.
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May 25, 2013 15:17
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And that is all thanks to the lovely writing presented to us in this movie.
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May 25, 2013 16:11
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MisterBibs posted:The point I was trying to assert was that Khan's character, and how that character is presented to the audience in WoK, is one of ethnic neutrality, for lack of a better term. Except WOK is neither the first nor the only appearance of the character.
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May 26, 2013 10:25
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Nessus posted:You know, if you wanted to develop it you could credibly argue that Cumberbatch hosed up by being all Sherlock instead of... acting like Khan? Unlike Spock or Kirk, there is no difference in Khan's background, and it seems likely his temporary employment would not substantially impact the personality of that kind of a guy. If we just talk about the portrayal, then yes, he didn't do Khan. There was no pride, arrogance, or apparent superiority in his behaviour. I also found that while he showed a certain intensity, he lacked passion. BIG HEADLINE posted:I know they'll never take this angle because movies still require "good guys," but it'd be amazing if this schism is what 'caused' the mirror universe (yes, I know it existed in 'Enterprise'), and *does* lead to a more militarized version of Starfleet full of other Admiral Robocop-style xenophobes. I am sorry to tell you but they showed the split already in the Enterprise tv show, and it was basically people shooting the Vulcans after they landed on Earth the first time. The show is still canon in JJTrek's timeline, confirmed by the model in Robocops office. Riso fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 26, 2013 |
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May 26, 2013 10:43
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The reason the Khan in WOK is different than the series is because after playing Fantasy Island for so long, Montalban had real problems playing someone else. He had to watch the show again and rediscover the character. Can you really call it a retcon when it was not the intent?
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May 26, 2013 16:42
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I wouldn't have bothered putting the same characters in and created an entirely new crew instead. If you make a good action movie people will want to see it anyway.
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May 28, 2013 16:54
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I just want to say TMP's Director's Cut is amazing. They took the original production work they couldn't do because of money and time constraints and put it into the movie.
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