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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I know I personally am looking forward to Breaking Bad: 2525.

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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

It bothers me, too.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Eh, Trek at least pretends to be grounded in reality, even if it then bullshits up some new law of physics to explain things. Regardless, there's only so much stress the structure of those things can take, even with a ton of power pouring into the integrity fields. Nacelles should shear clean off the mounts, the neck of the saucer would collapse... even the Constitution(Lensflair) with its thicker, scalloped mounts and struts would tear apart once removed from space.

If structural integrity fields are so good, the ship should never get damaged. But it does, so there's limits to how far it can hold the ship together.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Supercar Gautier posted:

I know it's important to establish a firm sense of what's possible and avoid making your audience take too many leaps of faith in too many directions, but "A spaceship can't go in water!" is a strange thing to point to as being in any way egregious.

I can accept Enterprise is capable of surviving spacey stuff. But terrestrial stuff, eh, to me that's pushing it.

It's like how I could accept that Kirk was nailing an Orion woman at the Academy, but I completely lost my poo poo over the idea that Spock was nailing Uhura. Sorry, suspension of disbelief lost, error error, destroy all cryosleep systems.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Riker is a busy man, okay? He has to keep his beard nautical and decorative, he has daily trombone practice as well as regular ambo-jutsu sessions, there's poker games to arrange, women to flirt with, he has important meetings with staff leaders in which he belittles their work for an episode's B/C-plot, and he's the Enterprise XO. The man simply does not have the time to learn how to make good scrambled eggs.

(The secret is fat, so use at least 2% milk. gently caress skim.)

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

If she is Carol, they're really setting up the movie franchise for a long stream of films over the next couple decades. This is planning, folks, this is how you create a legacy.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

It doesn't seem outlandish that she and Kirk met while serving and she just mustered out into the civilian world after a while, maybe once they broke up or something and she didn't want to keep running into him. Then she could dislike Starfleet because The Job got in the way of their relationship or something.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Aatrek posted:

Drew McWeeny over at HitFix has a very compelling theory about Cumberbatch's true nature.

Huh. :aaa:

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Your definition is a little broad if an Apollo reentry capsule is a spaceship in your eyes. I mean, not to mention those things were designed to do that...

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Stayne Falls posted:

Or Sprint phones/tablets on Fringe.

I don't know what would make you feel like there's conspicuous product placement in Fringe.

*backs up car, model badge conspicuously in shot*

*every member of Fringe Division drives a Ford without fail*

*even the AU cabbie's car is a Ford*

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Johnny Rico? I thought the villain was Mark Decascos.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

The Enterprise going beneath the water is a metaphor for the human psyche and the Jungian concept of the dream state, you see.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I'd say that's a pretty poor hidden assumption. Probably should have stayed hidden. Then, in ten thousand years, your assumption could emerge from the shadows and have its revenge.

But no, you ruined it, man.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I understand the Enterprise is responsible for the Halifax explosion in 1917. The Romulans went back to prevent it, intending to change the outcome of our World Wars, and Kirk had to make that terrible decision to keep history on track.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

7thBatallion posted:

That also involves a bizarre version of the Enterprise-D with zero shitters.

~*~TheBeard~*~ 35M Daddy (Anchorage, Alaska, USA)

into: having to take a massive dump on a ship with no toilets (everything to do with it)

curious about : rusty trombone (receiving)

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

It worries me you say Quinto nailed Spock again, because I thought he was terrible at it the last time around.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Kirk now never has to feel bad that he didn't fire phasers at the evil space cloud that killed hundreds of crewmen on the Farragut. He will also never have adventures with the Hill People as a lieutenant.

I'm hoping JJTrek3 (Star Trek and Back Again) will be a big-screen version of Kirk losing his memory on Native American Planet. I want to see Chris Pine hug himself with the appropriate narration running.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I guess I just feel like classic Spock struggled more with melancholy and affection than anger. When things would let Spock cut loose, what would he do? He'd laugh, smile, frolic in a meadow, or maybe cry. This new Spock is just an angry prick; it's a valid interpretation of someone in his position and background, but I don't feel like it's Spock to me.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

...was Chekov in red the last time?

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Aatrek posted:

Nope. Looks like he's running through the Engineering set.

That would actually be not a terrible move for him, considering the bizarre hypergenius tack they took with him in the first film. A guy who can plot moving transporter coordinates in his head has no business being a helmsman.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Better that than being a Screaming Danger Indicator.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Well you see, after the Third World War, one of the many fields set back by the nuclear bombardment was finely machined optical lenses. Thus, in the future, lens flare.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

The only man I trust to play a rebooted Picard is Michael Chiklis.

The Picard Manoevre is now planting child porn on the enemy ship.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Of course Dutch Boy would be part of Timefleet. Of course.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Frankly, I want him to reprise his previous role; Alex "RoboCop" Murphy. There's no reason to do anything else.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

That's a nice jacket, I'd wear that jacket.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Joe Don Baker posted:

I didn't mind that too much. My biggest gripe is that literally every single locker on that colony had a monster stuffed inside it.

Even ferocious demons from the extradimensional torment of Hell have nerds.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Jesse Eisenberg as Luke Skywalker?

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Karl Pilkington as Threepio. You thought I'd go for the obvious choice and use Stephen Merchant, didn't you? He's tall, lanky, and English, sure, but Karl has the personality.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

No, Obi-Wan should be played by someone hip and young, someone the kids will dig; get Peter Facinelli, he was in Twilight. You don't have to be old to be wise.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Luke is so bloated with his new Jedi Master Force powers, it's incredible! And Leia obviously has followed in her brother's footsteps, just look at how full of the Light Side she is!

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

The Starfleet bureaucracy is so immense and incestuous, a brevet rank could take three decades to be formally approved at the fleet headquarters. So you may as well just let that dude be Captain until he fucks up, he's still technically an Ensign after all and you can smack him down with it later.

Legend tells of an old Constitution-refit in active service during the Dominion War with the old burgundy jackets, the office console on Earth with their decommission information having exploded after a tragic incident, the orders to stand down never sent. Yet every other department reads the USS Dutchman as retired. But they're out there. Boldly going.

Forever.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Aliens screams Eighties from the top of its lungs. Alien has a timeless retro quality that for sure has odd touches of Seventies, but isn't like Logan's Run.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Darko posted:

Aliens doesn't really "scream 80s" since its base aesthetic is used in every current first person shooter ever (including the ones set in the present day) and half of the science fiction films that contain guns. It's still the "expected look" for future-sci-fi-military.

To be frank, Aliens is pretty far from the "expected look" of military scifi nowadays. People take cues from it in overall direction, for sure, but Aliens is a Vietnam film set in space because the Vietnam war was still in people's minds, the US having pulled out only ten years earlier. "Vietnam" is all over every piece of military fiction in the 80's. A lot of modern military scifi tends to be Gulf War I/War on Terror/Gulf War II analogs now because that's what's relevant to the viewers.

I think we're arguing at crosspurposes on this point, to be fair.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

penismightier posted:

The TMP Enterprise isn't shiny at all, it's all matte gray and matte eggshell inside and out.

It was supposed to be shiny, though. They had coated it in some pearlescent varnish which was apparently gorgeous beyond all belief but photographed horribly, so they emptied a few dozen cans of dullcote onto the model and welp

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Battleship has a better arc for the main dude, sadly. Taylor Kitsch is a gigantic loser with no job, facing criminal charges, and he's generally a piece of poo poo who never thinks about what he's doing. Then he joins the Navy, and he's still kind of an rear end in a top hat who's loving around making a mockery of the uniform, but when things get real he turns out to be a solid hero.

Kirk didn't even get that.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

It's not beer, it's a hops-based lubricant and coolant. Renewable and green!

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Maybe that water is that heavily oxygenated stuff you can breathe, so Scotty was actually totally fine.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Oh, you mean exactly like Prometheus? :v:

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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Looks like someone ran out of yard for her cardigan~

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