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Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

This looks good. Also with that female science officer there looking a lot like that officer from Where No Man Has Gone Before, I don't think it's a stretch to guess that Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 11:20

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:52

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Trek belongs on weekly TV. Any movie that is remotely good is a bonus but I want a NEW TV SHOW dammit.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 12:43

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

That hairstyle is pretty loving rad

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 13:17

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

So is this basically a movie version of Where No Man Has Gone Before? Seems like it

Not complaining. If they're going back to the episode well for ideas, that's a good place to start.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 13:27

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

He's a good actor, they probably couldn't have done better than casting him. Whoever he's playing.

Still really doubt it's Khan.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2012 14:59

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Lest we forget the alternate reality where the Borg took the galaxy and Riker's beard is out of control

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 11:08

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Do you think it's widespread knowledge that Ambassador Spock is from another universe, in the world of JJTrek?

Or is it a closely guarded secret or something.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 11:12

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

By the way I think Galaxy Quest qualifies as a Star Trek movie and as such, it's in the Top 5. Genuinely great movie.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 12:45

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Strange Matter posted:

I would be okay with this. Even if it's not Star Trek as I know it at least it would be watchable.

Basically I really, really miss Star Trek on TV, and the longer I go without having my thirst quenched the tastier sea water looks.

Society grows dumber every day there's no Star Trek on TV.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 14:42

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Can we agree that Star Trek is the poo poo

# ¿ Dec 7, 2012 23:11

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Yeah either they are pulling a major fake-out here or it's the Gary Mitchell story

Too many things point to it.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2012 09:40

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Bottom line is that there is probably no 60s show that is more progressive than Star Trek was

Was TNG considered progressive at the time? Seems a tiny bit more "safe" doesn't it? Still love it of course.

Cellophane S fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Dec 9, 2012

# ¿ Dec 9, 2012 15:09

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Astroman posted:

Yeah, as much as Roddenberry didn't think it through, ideas like "no money" and transubstantiation of matter in the form of free and unlimited replication was pretty for the 80s.

Not to mention a female chief medical officer, female security chief, blind helmsman, and the addition of their formal mortal enemy, a Klingon, to the bridge crew (which was as significant in the world of the show as having Pavel Chekhov on TOS). This significance of all this was that besides Worf, this was all not even acknowledged on the screen. It just was. Gender and disability were as non issues to the crew in universe just as having an black, asian, and Russian were in TOS. It just literally was not needed to be brought up, which in and of itself is significant.

They had a robot as part of the crew and within a season were grappling with the idea of it's human rights. This not only serves as an analogue for numerous other oppressed classes, but presages a debate which I believe we will have within our lifetimes.

The first episode was a slimy third world government guy trying to exploit a defenseless creature to win points with his first world benefactors--who resoundingly rejected and chastised him and freed the creature.

TNG was progressive in many ways.

Some great points there. You're absolutely right

# ¿ Dec 9, 2012 21:40

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Tars Tarkas posted:

Twitter reaction mentions the score borrows from Horner's ST2 score, but that may just be another red herring.

That sounds pretty rad to me.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2012 07:42

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

MikeJF posted:

And Jonathan Frakes wanted the character from the genderless race he kissed in that episode to be played by a man, but the higher powers refused and made it be a woman.

Proof that Frakes is a cool cat

# ¿ Dec 10, 2012 11:31

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Practical model effects

I always loved those shots, really well done in my opinion

# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 09:44

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

The rocket boots are fine.

I don't like the lovely visual effects, I think the villain is super uninteresting, and the ending is baffling and anti-climactic. Even as a teenager when I was getting into these movies and I REALLY wanted to love each and every one of them, Star Trek V was the only one out of the lot that I really didn't like very much. Despite some nice character moments.

That said, totally agree about the even-odd "rule", surely nobody believes that anymore? The Motion Picture, Search for Spock, and Star Trek 2009 are all odd numbered ones and they're all pretty good. Conversely Star Trek Nemesis is a pile of poo poo.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2012 17:05

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Darko posted:

I like the score, too, which always bumps up a film for me.

Fantastic work by Jerry Goldsmith.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2012 19:56

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Timby posted:

Unfortunately, the comedy elements were a mandate from the studio.

See, I don't get this. Show me one camera setup that Nimoy did on III or IV that beats the amazing dolly shot that moves from everyone on the bridge of the Enterprise agape at the appearance of "God," only to show that no one has seen that the Bird of Prey is moving in to attack (with an excellent little Goldsmith cue to go with it).

Star Trek V's problems are due to its script (Harve Bennett managing David "Dreamscape" Loughery was a mistake) and its rushed schedule. The writers guild strike ended in August 1988, and filming needed to begin no later than October to meet Paramount's summer release date. The schedule was nothing short of insane. Yeah, the effects blow, but they were really between a rock and a hard place, there -- ILM was tied up with Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ghostbusters II, and there weren't many other options. Douglas Trumbull had bailed from Hollywood work and John Dykstra didn't have the bandwidth to take on the project; there weren't really many agencies around with experience doing high-quality motion control work for science fiction films, especially since Robert Abel & Associates (which did the work on The Motion Picture) had folded a year or two earlier.

But Shatner did an amazing job directing that movie -- I would have loved to see what he could do with a better script.

The music cue you're referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na76Mrl89Rs

The little Klingon theme quote appears at 3:40

But the whole track is incredible. Jerry Goldsmith MAGIC.

Honestly his score is the best thing about the whole production.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2012 02:09

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

I started watching the cam version, shut it off. Waiting to see the proper version thanks

# ¿ Dec 16, 2012 21:22

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Aatrek posted:

Also, I'm digging that TMP-era insignia on Kirk's dress uniform.

Hell yes.

Also Chris Pine is some pitch perfect casting I think

# ¿ Dec 17, 2012 18:11

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Rhyno posted:

That was a pretty great trailer! The music in the first have was wonderful for the voiceover.

I thought the music was cookie cutter, bland trailer music

# ¿ Dec 17, 2012 23:27

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

The engine room in 2009 movie was the Budweiser factory I believe

# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 15:54

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Dan Didio posted:

That's it! It was a brewery it was built on. That's awesome. It looked great. People are stupid.

it did look great! It looked like an engine room.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 19:25

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Farecoal posted:

It looked like an engine room on a 19th century steamer, it was awful. Well actually it just looked like a bunch of big water pipes, apparently the Enterprise needs some serious plumbing

I'm sorry but you are wrong, it was clearly very rad

# ¿ Dec 18, 2012 23:55

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

The only man I trust to play a rebooted Picard is Michael Chiklis.

The Picard Manoevre is now planting child porn on the enemy ship.

Picard gets results

# ¿ Dec 19, 2012 15:57

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Evil Sagan posted:

My absolute favorite part of the '09 Star Trek film was the end when Pine strides onto set with the command gold uniform on and kind of belches out "Bones!" He was just so drat Kirk!

I went YESSSS when I saw that. Fantastic moment.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2013 12:59

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

And bust out the fancy glaive/q-tips. Sulu got an extending sword, give a extending glaive to Spock. And Kirk can get an extending double-fist, Scotty an extendable bottle of whiskey, and Uhura a collapsable skirt

These action figures SELL THEMSELVES

# ¿ Mar 13, 2013 10:52

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

The lack of reverence for the starship Enterprise is troubling to me. I think it's plain stupid to destroy it in the SECOND movie. The audience has next to zero attachment to it before they toss it away. Disappointing

# ¿ Mar 21, 2013 15:03

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

I like Cumberbatch but the internet's crush on him is getting out of hand.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2013 16:01

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Aatrek posted:

The nacelles are all wrong.

Edit: on the crashing ship, that is.

That's a huge relief for me.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2013 00:37

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Payndz posted:

I can read NCC-170... on the saucer. On the other hand, we see it coming out of the water in the teaser trailer, so whatever it is I guess it's not a write-off.

I am still very :ohdear:

about this

# ¿ Mar 23, 2013 13:23

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Destroying the Enterprise in the second movie would be a big mistake is all I'm saying. I wouldn't like it one bit.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2013 14:52

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

The sexy voyages of the starship Enterprise 1701-XXX

# ¿ Mar 24, 2013 14:22

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Mister Kingdom posted:

That would be the NCC-1701VVVVVVVVV.

Nice. Too many Vs though I think.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2013 15:53

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

bobkatt013 posted:

I wonder if Benedict Cumberbatch is a Klingon disguised as human to infultrate Star Fleet. It would make him sort of like an Augment while not rehashing it, and bring the Klingon's back in a big way.

That would be :krad:

and better than just doing Khan again

# ¿ Mar 25, 2013 14:14

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

Either it's a fakeout somehow or they're going to destroy it.

either way it's lame and I may have given Abrams and his team too much credit for the first movie.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2013 23:43

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

That's some ludicrous speed right there.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2013 16:40

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

What if it's an Enterprise from the future or something, it looks vaguely Enterprise E-y

# ¿ Apr 16, 2013 19:34

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:52

Cellophane S: Nov 14, 2004; Now you're playing with power.

The internet's obsession with Cumberbatch is becoming a bit much

# ¿ Apr 17, 2013 08:27

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