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Tars Tarkas posted:TNG's progressivism wasn't about racial stuff, it was more about ideas of understanding and emotions. Those concepts weren't as well thought out and so they make the show look more ridiculous when looked at in a critical way. If anything, the choice of actors was more progressive because they weren't going down a laundry list of ethnicities, the list was more archetypes, La Forge's disability being the only real specific check off. It did fall into the trap of white leading man, but that was pretty much still unavoidable in 1987. They did make him European instead of American. And to be fair, people were also making a stink about him being a) middle-aged, and b) bald. People literally wanted Kirk 2.
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Supercar Gautier posted:House MD in space. It's essentially the same thing, but all the diseases are bizarre made-up alien nonsense. How horrible would a 'Walking Dead in Space' show be?
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DFu4ever posted:I want this to happen just because the idea of typecasting an actor as the younger version of another actor is endlessly amusing to me. Next we can sign him up for Gurney Halleck in a Dune remake. Which is funny, because McAvoy was already Leto II in a miniseries version of Children of Dune (pre-fame).
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well why not posted:Funny you say he's awesome the rest of the flick, but if you think about it he actually gets his rear end kicked pretty much constantly the entire movie. He loses a bar fight, almost dies on the mining rig and almost gets straight murdered in the finale. I maintain that the alternate timeline meant that his father never taught him the two-fisted punch, which would have made him win all those fistfights. That's why he gets beat up so often.  NERO!!
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Cingulate posted:But, I'm not even sure I personally dislike the brewery, I just found the Guybrush Threepwood scene there way too boring. I don't know what this means, and I've played a Monkey Island game before.
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Feb 18, 2013 06:18
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The Captain's Shirt? "Mr. Spock, I brought you this bar code. I hope you feel better soon."
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Mar 10, 2013 21:30
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FrensaGeran posted:Tom Hardy was in Nemesis. No one in Insurrection went on to be a star. In fact I think they all killed themselves. In fact, I feel like Insurrection was about the last time F. Murray Abraham tried to undo the Oscar jinx. It's all SyFy Channel original movies and the like now.
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1st AD posted:Jesus christ thats depressing. Apparently Salieri takes it in stride: Wikipedia posted:Abraham's relatively low-profile film career subsequent to his Academy Award has been widely considered an example of the "Oscar jinx". According to film critic Leonard Maltin, professional failure following an early success is referred to in Hollywood circles as the "F. Murray Abraham syndrome".[11] Abraham rejected this notion and told Maltin:
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Apr 17, 2013 22:19
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jivjov posted:Good god, that is one of my top two favorite line deliveries in that movie. The other being "SPOOOOOOOOOOCHHHH!!!! SPOOOOOOOOOCHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" "IT DID HAPPEN! I SAW IT HAPPEN DON'T TELL ME IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!" Even better was his constant changing of accents and inflections throughout the film, as if Bana was constantly trying to figure out what character voice he wanted Nero to have (especially in his early scenes).
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Apr 22, 2013 15:35
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Senor Tron posted:Keith Urban nails McCoy. I didn't know they'd recast the role; that's certainly an interesting choice to make.
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monster on a stick posted:We saw it in IMAX 3D, and outside of the opening sequence and the credits... I really don't remember much 3D. I'm sure it had some, but it wasn't memorable - at least compared to Hugo, The Avengers, and Inception. I hadn't seen the film in 3D, but if the trailer is any indicator it's worse than most good 3D I've seen and you've mentioned (wait, was Inception even in 3D?); the film was post converted, I think, so most of the elements in the 3D trailer were just a bunch of cardboard cutouts running back and forth at different depths like a pop-up book.
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May 16, 2013 16:01
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pyrotek posted:So what is Khan's motivation for deciding to transwarp to Qo'noS in particular? I know they said he wanted to go to the one place they couldn't go but in what way does that benefit him? He wasn't trying to start a war with the Klingons, was he? Wasn't he just trying to get his crew back? Why not just transwarp to an uninhabited planet or some other place? Wouldn't him being on Qo'noS really make it less likely for them to go after him when he really wants them to so he can get his people back? It's a good point, but I think Khan didn't know that Admiral Robocop wasn't going to be actually using the torpedoes against him and/or that they would be on the ship chasing him - might have been a temporary reprieve to gather his strength since Kirk destroyed his ship. It's flimsy, but that's how I justified it.
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May 18, 2013 02:14
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thet0wer posted:Question: It was to make the natives chase Kirk and Bones away from the temple, which was going to get destroyed anyway. He was stealing the scroll to draw them away from the volcano.
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May 25, 2013 18:05
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gohmak posted:Why? have you done a reading on that? I'd read the hell out of that. I don't even think After Earth needs a super-esoteric SMG reading of it (as in the kind of out-there subtextual reading I think you're expecting from him); it's actually a decent enough 'father vs. son vs. elements vs. maturity' film on its surface as well. Without the reputation of Shyamalan and maybe the over-the-top cries of nepotism people whinge about with the Smiths, I think the movie wouldn't have been hyped up as a shitcake as much, and it's possible people wouldn't have such confirmation bias about it. As for the Scientology parallels, I'm certain those work, but I don't think you have to necessarily translate 'a father and son learn to trust and respect one another in the face of a dangerous situation that forces the child to come into his own as a man' 1:1 into Scientologist propaganda.
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Jun 11, 2013 16:53
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Rabelais D posted:What this film was really missing was a chess-like starship battle with high stakes, back and forth and real tension. You're so torpedoist.
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Exactly; it's not like people who get hung up on that detail can tell us for sure that Tribbles don't have compatible blood with humans.
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Sep 21, 2013 17:56
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Cingulate posted:I find this unconvincing. The Passion happens in a completely different context - we have specific expectations regarding what happens in Hollywood movies with multi-million dollar contracts in general, and those that happen to be reboots full of call-backs to a previous iteration in particular. By that same token, however, I found the scene effective because Kirk doesn't know he's in a movie either - he thinks he's going to die forever, and when he says "I'm scared, Spock," I believed him. I think Pine and Quinto really sell it (until the KHAAAAN moment, which admittedly is fairly silly).
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Sep 23, 2013 15:38
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And don't get Trinity on me now.
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Cingulate posted:I'm not saying the scene is ineffective! I'm saying that I think the scene is at least a little bit about Kirk being dead, because the crux of the scene is Kirk having to face his fear of death by actually having to face it himself.
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Sep 23, 2013 15:43
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Senor Tron posted:Vulcans are an entire race of airline pilots. Quick, someone better than me Photoshop the Flight poster ASAP.
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Dec 21, 2013 16:06
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Something I think really informs the strangeness of the Kirk/Spock friendship in the rebooted films is that they're also working off expectations pushed on them by Old Spock. He essentially tells them that they're "destined to be best friends," and so they're trying to play those roles because the future has told them they have to. Sure, they're also gradually developing that affection on their own, but that strange specter of prophecy hangs over them as well. I think that's a big part of their many conflicts throughout those films - they're pushed into this close friendship without having strictly earned it yet, so there are naturally growing pains.
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Helsing posted:I don't think they cast Jeri Ryan in Voyager for her acting ability. Which is funny, because she turned out to be one of the better actors on the show.
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