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To bring up something totally different: I still have some hope that the dynamics of the Klingon race will be greatly changed due to the damage that Nero did to them off-screen in ST '09. A new political climate would be really interesting to see. One where perhaps the Klingons go aggressively to war with the Romulans, perhaps even joining with the Federation to do so. I know thinking about these things as actual events as if these are documentaries is extremely wrong-headed, but having grown up being a pretty big Trekkie I can't quite help going down those sorts of roads. So forgive me for putting the puzzle pieces together that way, but I'm honestly interested in seeing where those possibilities could go plot-wise since we could go so far afield from the original series plotlines and political messages. The Cold War just isn't relevant anymore, so long discussions of it (even particularly great ones like Balance of Terror from the first season of the original series) just aren't where the series should be going anymore. Star Trek has typically worked best when it has been steeped in allegory. While I'm not necessarily saying that Kirk should end up funding a Klingon terrorist who is after the Romulans only to have him rise up and become an enemy of the Federation decades later (bonus points if he's on space-dialysis), altering the setting to allow it to have something to say about modern politics would be fantastic. I completely adored Star Trek '09 and am eagerly anticipating this one. A Shatner and Takei cameo would make my day. Jerusalem posted:I'll also be happy so long as we get more stuff like this: Starship porn = best porn.
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ape canyon posted:That enemy captain from The Balance of Terror. It's going to be a massive-budget space-submarine film and I'm going to love every second of it. I would, no lie, watch this 100X.
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NarkyBark posted:James R Kirk Obviously short for James TibERius Kirk.
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I'd prefer the bridge of death.
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I love Star Trek and I love graphic storytelling and that one panel has basically every reason I stopped reading comics regularly condensed into a single image. Jesus Christ.
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Even if I didn't love TOS Star Trek, it would still hold a special place in my heart for teaching me more about the female form than I came across my Dad's collection of Playboys.  I unironically love basically every design choice they made in that series. And I loved probably 90 plus percent of the choices they made in Trek '09, one of the most important of which was finding a young, sexy cast (men and women both) and then showing them off. TOS was sexy as hell and it is only fitting that the remake be that as well. So many of the "fans" tend to forget all the skin on display, the slapstick humor, and all the flat out action that the series had at the beginning. Yes, there were whole episodes that were essentially submarine warfare (and they were great), but the whole series wasn't The Enterprise sneaking through a nebula after the Reliant. Yes, that movie rules. Yes, Balance of Terror was one of the best episodes, but for every slow, tense episode like that there were ten where Kirk ran around without a shirt on. The brewery scene has been well-defended here, so I won't repeat what others have said. As a guy who is obsessed enough with Star Trek that I knew Balance of Terror without having to look it up, I loving loved JJTrek and am unreasonably excited for the sequel.
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I would be fine with them blowing it up if they replaced it with the one from Star Trek 1-6. That is the bestest version of the Enterprise anyway . . .
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I liked this movie. The whitewashing does suck, though. As usual, SMG had some great stuff to say in here.
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For me it's literally just that I'd rather have seen someone with an ethnicity other than "white" since Khan was originally a person of color (as Cho put it). It doesn't ruin the movie. There are reasons it sort of works better that he is white (which I don't think work as an excuse, but it softens the blow). Star Trek is incredibly inconsistent anyway. It's a minor quibble for me, but it's there. I really, really loved the movie overall, though. I realize that Star Trek is one of those places where I can't get enough distance from it to really analyze it the way I would if it were a generic sci-fi movie. I have a long-standing and deep-abiding love of Star Trek and I can't be as critical as I would be if it weren't a kind of older brother to me.
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Isn't that exactly what she did with the Klingons? I mean, 100%?
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They mentioned some magnetic field making the transporters not work. Also: The Enterprise coming up out of the water looked really loving cool.
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Pope Mobile posted:I must have missed/forgotten that line. We've been conditioned to ignore that poo poo at this point. Or at least I have. The techno-babble is necessary but wholly uninteresting to me.
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MikeJF posted:The Dax running around during TOS was Emony. She met McCoy. This made me look up the character on Memory Alpha (since I'm still making my way through DS9), which then talked about a story set when McCoy was young enough that he hadn't yet entered medical school and the incestuous, masturbatory nature of all of this fan-wank bullshit hurt my brain. Lesson: Don't go to Memory Alpha.
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Corek posted:Memory Alpha has no fan wank, all the information comes directly from the TV shows and movies. No information from books or video games is allowed. Then what's this poo poo?
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Well, I suppose the information here is listed as coming from an outside source:quote:In the Lives of Dax short story Old Souls, McCoy's roommate, whose people have a long-standing feud with the Trill, attempts to kill Emony at the gymnastics competition, but another Trill steps in and takes the blow instead - McCoy is able to save his life, and the satisfaction he receives from doing so is the catalyst for his decision to become a doctor. 
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There's an important nuance there: Khan pops up the instant Kirk pulls his gun. As with Kirk reawakening the instant Khan is knocked out, there's an implicit connection drawn between the two. This is pretty drat spot-on. We don't always agree on things, but drat.
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Blistex posted:Was looking for a video on the new USN Supercarriers and found something magical. The typical undertakings of a nerdy 11 year old, being discussed with the seriousness that only a +30 year old Trek fan, pretending to be Frank Lloyd Wright can muster. It's a 13 minutes long (completely legit) "tour" of a man's journey to "design a better Starship Enterprise". Skip ahead to 7:00 to see the scribblings of a madman, and at 8:50 there are actual scribbles. At 7:11 I let out an audible laugh upon hearing a line that goes counter to the seriousness of the established tone so far. Around 11:00 it gets into some Thank you so much for this. You are doing god's work.
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territory. Star Trek's best entertainment value is easily its more hardcore fans.