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Carthag Tuek posted:i mean actively, continuously. more than half of those are pre-1700s when yall actually did do it fr Fair enough, i wasn't aware it was a thing that died down for a while. As was said, all the computer and internet compound nouns recently make it seem like it never stopped.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Why the gently caress are foot and root pronounced differently bough, cough, dough, rough
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drk posted:
soy no un combine.
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English just likes to let words do a trial run as a hyphenated phrase for several years before committing to a real compound word.
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Spoken English does lots of compounding, e.g. 'girl scout cookie', orthographically there's just a preference to write new compounds as noun phrases (separated by spaces) and only after time and wide acceptance do noun phrases get promoted to actual compound words.
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Eiba posted:Yeah, the spelling is hosed. I'd be down for updating English spellings to be more phonetic. You're not the first to propose spelling standardization for English. My favorite (tongue-in-cheek) example is Meihem in ce Klasrum by Dolton Edwards, 1946
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if you want to commit to the germanic throwback, "nouncombine" is two latin roots. you want namemix
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Mister Olympus posted:if you want to commit to the germanic throwback, "nouncombine" is two latin roots. you want namemix "mix" is also latin. "blend" is germanic but not really the same meaning e: perhaps "samle" (to collect/gather) could work, its cognate to english "same" "navneordssamling" would normally be interpreted as "a collection of nouns" but can also mean "the act of putting together nouns" Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Family Values posted:Spoken English does lots of compounding, e.g. 'girl scout cookie', orthographically there's just a preference to write new compounds as noun phrases (separated by spaces) and only after time and wide acceptance do noun phrases get promoted to actual compound words. It's also interesting to see which words make the jump to full compound. Like backyard is there, but front yard is not.
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Gully Foyle posted:It's also interesting to see which words make the jump to full compound. Like backyard is there, but front yard is not. frontyard (pronounced fruntyerd) is perfectly cromulent english, that's why it's a fun language. no rules
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Family Values posted:Spoken English does lots of compounding, e.g. 'girl scout cookie', orthographically there's just a preference to write new compounds as noun phrases (separated by spaces) and only after time and wide acceptance do noun phrases get promoted to actual compound words. It’s easier to read as a phrase with spaces. I have no idea how German speakers can look at boxofgirlscoutcookie and know where it begins or ends without reading it over twice
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:It’s easier to read as a phrase with spaces. I have no idea how German speakers can look at boxofgirlscoutcookie and know where it begins or ends without reading it over twice skill issue, i read that before i even saw it
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I often think about how much my spoken English, which has a heavy accent and contains all kinds of ridiculous localisms, bears utterly no resemblance whatsoever to my written English. I have to write all these words in all these ways that do not connect whatsoever with my actual spoken diction. It's almost, but not quite, code switching.
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Uhofen thing bout hao mush muh spohgun Inglish, wish hazzuh heavy aksend und cundains ull kahndzuv reedikyolus localisms, burrs udderly noh resemblums whadsoyever do mai wridden Inglish. Ah huv do wride alldese wurds en all dese waze datdonut connuct whatsoever wit mai akshooul spoken dikshun. It's almos, bud nod kwite, coad swishin.
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There's an older gray haired European lady who works at a local store of mine. Her name is Rita. I was waiting in line and she was complaining to her coworkers about how no one around here can say her name right. Everyone turns 't' into 'd', it's our dialect. Listening to her, standing in line, I realized that I couldn't properly say "Rita" unless I really really really tried, and even then it feels wrong.
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Carthag Tuek posted:"mix" is also latin. "blend" is germanic but not really the same meaning german itself even too frenchified for other germanics BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:It’s easier to read as a phrase with spaces. I have no idea how German speakers can look at boxofgirlscoutcookie and know where it begins or ends without reading it over twice this is also something that comes with fluency in any language
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Uhofen thing bout hao mush muh spohgun Inglish, wish hazzuh heavy aksend und contains all kahndzuv reedikyolus localisms, burrs udderly noh resemblums whadsoever do mai wridden Inglish. I huv do wride alldese wurds en all dese waze datdonut connuct whatsoever wit mai akshooul spoken dikshun. It's almos, bud not kwite, coad swishin. everbody codeswitches, the entire time of life, even if they only speak "one" language. its more obvious when theres multiple languages involved, but imo its the same thing. youre speaking to family, friends, colleagues, you choose different words and inflect them differently. Right then, I used a "casual" code although it brought me great pain. I shall refrain from using a period at the end of this sentence, so you will know that I am not mad at you
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Carthag Tuek posted:everbody codeswitches, the entire time of life, even if they only speak "one" language. its more obvious when theres multiple languages involved, but imo its the same thing. youre speaking to family, friends, colleagues, you choose different words and inflect them differently. Right then, I used a "casual" code although it brought me great pain. I shall refrain from using a period at the end of this sentence, so you will know that I am not mad at you I used proper punctuation in my "wrong English" post
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I used proper punctuation in my "wrong English" post exactly
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drk posted:I've always been interested as to why English is one of the most commonly spoken second languages. were you born yesterday or something
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Carthag Tuek posted:exactly, its the opposite in thre rest of the germanic languages. you can split the words, but it would be wrong. theyre one word made of many parts. Carthag Tuek posted:"mix" is also latin. "blend" is germanic but not really the same meaning
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people who appear to insist on splitting up existing words for no reason except possibly because that's how it's done in English. I'm binding is good, thats precise hear ye hear ye anglofuckers, from now you say "bind" instead of "mix" and whatever else. it is your word, keep it, and use it, fuckers.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:It’s easier to read as a phrase with spaces. I have no idea how German speakers can look at boxofgirlscoutcookie and know where it begins or ends without reading it over twice It would be girlscoutcookiebox. Which is very readable. 
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Carthag Tuek posted:binding is good, thats precise not until the germans give up mischen
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Here's a text about quantum physics in pure Germanic English
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i'm noticing a lot of native english speakers starting to germanically capitalize some or many Nouns in the Sentences they write the englishers yearn to return to their linguistic roots
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Mister Olympus posted:not until the germans give up mischen im sure they can do that. germans dont mix a lot
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redleader posted:i'm noticing a lot of native english speakers starting to germanically capitalize some or many Nouns in the Sentences they write That can also be an indicator of schizophrenia.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:That can also be an indicator of schizophrenia. Interesting. Please elaborate on that.
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redleader posted:i'm noticing a lot of native english speakers starting to germanically capitalize some or many Nouns in the Sentences they write I’ve had a habit of doing this accidentally ever since I did German in school. I always assumed it was just because I’d picked up the habit from my German lessons, but maybe I have schizophrenia apparently? But the voices tell me it’s definitely not the second one.
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How are there three pages arguing about linguistics without a single map?
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'preciate it
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Air Skwirl posted:How are there three pages arguing about linguistics without a single map? Flat Earthers are of course completely incapable of critical thinking, but "Why is there no flight from the Falklands to Tasmania?!" seems so mind blowingly dumb since you can get a flight from Chile direct to Australia. I wonder how anyone who is not flat earthing as a grift can try to figure out how that flight works on the NATO "flat earth" map.
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Air Skwirl posted:How are there three pages arguing about linguistics without a single map?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:It’s easier to read as a phrase with spaces. I have no idea how German speakers can look at boxofgirlscoutcookie and know where it begins or ends without reading it over twice I gets instinctive with practice. The trick is knowing that there is no non-compound word that starts with boxo. There are words that are more confusing because they lack that. And a style of pun where you pronounce them as if they had the possible separations in the wrong positions.
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I think one of the biggest problems is that you often see the really weird long stuff, which is not used too much any more. Except for government work obviously, Beamte love that poo poo. "Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft" yeah sure. but don't forget, the English translation of this is also absolute garbage: "Danube steam shipping electric powers main factory building sub clerk's society" yeeeaaah, no. But if you only add 2-4 words, it's not hard "Donaudampfschiff" Danube steamship (steam ship?)
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Desktop, Mainframe, Clockwork, Doorway, Highway, Roadside, Carpark, Bookshelf, Brakepad, Smokescreen, Haircut, Firefly, Sweatshirt, Airport, Seawall... Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice Giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake!
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Mittelfristenergieversorgungssicherungsmaßnahmenverordnung. I guess using law names is cheating. Colloquially it's just called EnSimiMaV. e: 
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Antigravitas posted:Mittelfristenergieversorgungssicherungsmaßnahmenverordnung. A word too long for the germans... never thought I'd see the day
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The armed forces do that a lot too, producing contractions that verge on Polish, PzKfW, SdKfz, PzMrs, GepKrKw, etc. Be thankful if they're at least pronouncable.
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