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shadow puppet of a posted:I think its the old "Cagot" system of discrimination against catering chefs. Once a caterer, always a caterer. Bene probably brought the scorn upon himself by looking directly into the eyes of the restauranteurs or speaking at a volume above a quiet whisper in the presence of his fixed-locale betters. Bene is a caterer? For some reason I didn't think that especially since he was a sous on Top Chef Masters. Also, I keep wondering if he has any relation to Paul Bartolotta but haven't been able to find anything online about it.
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Ochowie posted:Bene is a caterer? Yep, and his Top Chef bio is largely copy/pasted from the about us page on his website.
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I understand you not believing me. But if you click the link in his bio in the OP, you'll see that what he owns and operates, "Indulge by Bene", is a catering company. Maybe Odette fired his rear end for not winning the skydive challenge? I dunno, I was confused too.
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shadow puppet of a posted:I understand you not believing me. But if you click the link in his bio in the OP, you'll see that what he owns and operates, "Indulge by Bene", is a catering company. No I believe you. It was more an expression of surprise similar to what you were thinking about Odette.
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I was just at China Poblano (Shirley Chung's place/former place) a few days ago, and the Lychee/Duck Tongue Taco and Beef Tendon/Oyster Taco was amazing.     jscolon2.0 fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Oct 17, 2013 |
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Oct 15, 2013 01:55
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Did anyone else get serious Ratatouille vibes from Bene? Dude just needs a hat with a mouse in it.
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quote:Sara Johannes – Minneapolis, MN Heh, we just passed through there and I might have picked that if I knew she was on the show. A Delta hub is a clever place for a restaurant, it probably gets more foot traffic than a big city would. Instead we went to Twinburger, which was pretty good for airport food. I guess they are trying hard there. http://heavytable.com/twinburger-at-msp-airport/
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There's no way that having Carrie make an eyes metaphor was an accident. edit: A smoked bacon kale salad with an egg on top would be so good.
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Oct 17, 2013 03:03
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Every time they show Patty she just looks so sad. I'm tired of it.
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Oct 17, 2013 03:11
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I swear I've never seen this Travis dude before.
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Oct 17, 2013 03:28
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Technically speaking, making a biscuit better than the Commander's Palace one should put you in the bottom.
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Oct 17, 2013 03:45
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These commercials featuring Top Chef contestants really displays why not just any chef can be on tv.
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Oct 17, 2013 03:58
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The funniest part of the night was when Carlos announced that he doesn't sweat, apparently he is not human! It was great that Kale guy went home.
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I was surprised he didn't go home at the Quickfire, when they were like "don't make a kale salad" and he made a kale salad. Top Chef judging is always mystifying to me.
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amaranthine posted:I was surprised he didn't go home at the Quickfire, when they were like "don't make a kale salad" and he made a kale salad. Salty to the point of inedible is a pretty good indicator of someone going home, I think. But the "I know you said explicitly to not do this but I did it anyway" is always annoyingly stupid. Are they not doing the guest judge giving away a prize this season? I thought maybe they didn't do it last season either, but I remember Bob Kramer giving away a custom knife of his in a Quick Fire, so they probably did prizes during eliminations, yes?
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Scott808 posted:Are they not doing the guest judge giving away a prize this season? I thought maybe they didn't do it last season either, but I remember Bob Kramer giving away a custom knife of his in a Quick Fire, so they probably did prizes during eliminations, yes?
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I'm so tired of pouty 50's girl and pouty Nicholas who cannot bear to hear people talk about his eliminated crush. But I am glad that Michael Sichel is going to be this season's Heather Terhune who damages his professional reputation through ugly contestant behaviour.
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shadow puppet of a posted:But I am glad that Michael Sichel is going to be this season's Heather Terhune who damages his professional reputation through ugly contestant behaviour. I would have chased him through the kitchen and crammed those peppers into his eye sockets. What a loving rear end in a top hat.
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Yeah, that was just uncalled for. I'm pretty glad Nina got in the top three anyway.
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Not really liking any of the Chefs this year. They're attracting too many chefs with "impressive" resumes that have no personality, and now they're coupled with "lesser" chefs that have no personality I'd rather a bunch of Chefs that have successful restaurants they built from the ground up and aren't necessarily nominated for a trillion awards than boring people that worked under some big name and coast on their James Beard nominations/awards
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Duro posted:Not really liking any of the Chefs this year. They're attracting too many chefs with "impressive" resumes that have no personality, and now they're coupled with "lesser" chefs that have no personality Maybe I'm misremembering the early seasons, but it seems like Top Chef really isn't the show it used to be when it comes to choosing appropriate contestants. It used to be that a James Beard nominated chef would not belong on the show, or if they would go on Top Chef Masters. Top Chef really should be for young, talented chefs who are at the beginning of their career and have yet to prove themselves. Its supposed to be for sous chefs and line cooks who dream about becoming successful, have some serious talent, but haven't had an opportunity yet. They should be embarrassed that they had a challenge where one of the judges was nominated for the same award this year as one of the contestants. Out of all the contestants I think there's only one sous chef this year, they've gone way off the rails.
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The show has never been about scrappy underdogs trying to prove themselves or whatever. It's always been about getting the best chefs to make the best food. There was a lower caliber of contestant in the early years because no successful chef with a good job would take a month off (which, for most potential applicants, realistically meant quitting their job) to be on a reality cooking show nobody's ever heard of. Now it's successful and famous, and the available contestants reflect that. If that's not the show you want to watch, that's cool - but don't blame the show for being what it's always been. Go watch Masterchef or something.
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amaranthine posted:The show has never been about scrappy underdogs trying to prove themselves or whatever. It's always been about getting the best chefs to make the best food. There was a lower caliber of contestant in the early years because no successful chef with a good job would take a month off (which, for most potential applicants, realistically meant quitting their job) to be on a reality cooking show nobody's ever heard of. Now it's successful and famous, and the available contestants reflect that. Well whatever the reason, I enjoyed the early years much better when it WAS scrappy underdogs trying to prove themselves. And I'm sure you can see that there's a big gap between professional chefs like Harold(Season 1) and home cooks like the contestants on Master Chef. I enjoy that middle ground more than either extreme.
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Might I recommend a little-known show called 'Hell's Kitchen'. It has all the fierce competition and strong talent of Top Chef but features unknown chef's taking a shot at their dream. Once you see the sublime food and amazing talent of these hidden gems, you'll never go back to other cooking shows.
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Who was the first James Beard nominee to compete? Pork Kevin in season 6 is the earliest I can recall, but I may be forgetting someone. Either way, even in season 1, line cooks and culinary school students never had a shot, even if they made up more of the contestant pool. The show's been about executive chefs and chef/owners for almost as long as it's been on.
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Still, I think there was something better about a larger cast of people that 'jerk off to Joel Robuchon' than a cadre of careerist ladder climbers. I guess the window of opportunity is closed, but the souschef oddballs that could work magic out of nowhere, like Season 6's Eli, is more appealing television than rigid 'I do American farm-to-table plates!', types that are there to boost their already successful ventures.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Still, I think there was something better about a larger cast of people that 'jerk off to Joel Robuchon' than a cadre of careerist ladder climbers. I guess the window of opportunity is closed, but the souschef oddballs that could work magic out of nowhere, like Season 6's Eli, is more appealing television than rigid 'I do American farm-to-table plates!', types that are there to boost their already successful ventures. Keep the hope alive, its always darkest before the Dawn of Pork Jesus! Must we remind ourselves of Season 5 in New York?!
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shadow puppet of a posted:the souschef oddballs that could work magic out of nowhere, like Season 6's Eli If I'm remembering right (and I might not be), Eli was an executive chef when they filmed and had been for a while. They just really played up the Sous Chef thing because when he was a sous chef it was for Richard Blais.
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Toast Museum posted:Who was the first James Beard nominee to compete? Pork Kevin in season 6 is the earliest I can recall, but I may be forgetting someone. Either way, even in season 1, line cooks and culinary school students never had a shot, even if they made up more of the contestant pool. The show's been about executive chefs and chef/owners for almost as long as it's been on. Both Voltaggio's had James Beard nominations (for The Bazaar and VOLT) before that season also. Jen Carroll wasn't a nominee but she was Chef de Cuisine for Eric Ripert at 10 Arts which is probably more impressive. Las Vegas is probably the most talented and acclaimed cast the show has ever had and not coincidentally it was also the best season the show has ever had.
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uranus posted:Might I recommend a little-known show called 'Hell's Kitchen'. It has all the fierce competition and strong talent of Top Chef but features unknown chef's taking a shot at their dream. Once you see the sublime food and amazing talent of these hidden gems, you'll never go back to other cooking shows. I'm sorry but the quality of chefs in Hell's Kitchen are nowhere near the quality of chefs from even the first Top Chef. I've always wondered if the Hell's Kitchen producers go around turn off the contestant's burners so Ramsay can yell at people for serving raw food.
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No matter how obnoxious some of the personalities that show up on Top Chef can be, they pale in comparison to the sheer trashiness of almost every contestant on Hell's Kitchen. I like some drama with my reality cooking TV, but I can't stand the bitching in Hell's Kitchen for more than five minutes.
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Hell's Kitchen isnt about cooking. Its about catering to an audience that likes to watch people get shouted at. Nobody learns anything, nobody gets better. Its just about knocking out John Dories and waiting for your turn for an over the top shouting. It would be the exact same show if it was about model airplanes or wool tapestry. "This Messerschmidt is still tacky Shaniqua, DEW IT AGAIN!!"
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Ochowie posted:I'm sorry but the quality of chefs in Hell's Kitchen are nowhere near the quality of chefs from even the first Top Chef. I've always wondered if the Hell's Kitchen producers go around turn off the contestant's burners so Ramsay can yell at people for serving raw food. I don't know if they go that far but they certainly tamper with cooking equipment to cause problems.
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Debbie Metallica posted:I don't know if they go that far but they certainly tamper with cooking equipment to cause problems. There were also the occasions when the electrical power, followed by the backup generators mysteriously just  shut down during service. HK contestants are more often given tools to directly sabotage each other, and the elimination process is designed solely to generate drama, bitterness, betrayal, and spite. Compare that to Top Chef, where chefs are judged solely on what they served in that round (and trash-talking another chef's dish to the judges is generally not done), and are occasionally given passes / mulligans /do-overs (the kitchen fire in the Island Banquet episode of season 8 comes to mind, and I think there was one season where they let them re-do Restaurant Wars). HK is more of a reality show with a cooking framework than a genuine cooking competition. Beef Hardcheese fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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physeter posted:I would have chased him through the kitchen and crammed those peppers into his eye sockets. What a loving rear end in a top hat. It didn't bother me. It feels like exactly what the judges would've said to do had something happened and the incident caused him to rush plating or miss deadline. I mean, it's a plate with your loving name on it. That shouldn't happen to begin with
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When they get down to the last 3-4 people, the chefs in HK are usually pretty decent. But the whole point of the show is watching Gordon Ramsey get angry.
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Hopefully this is a Four Loko themed elimination. edit: Emeril doesn't give a poo poo about your usual drawing knives for teams bullshit.
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