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Yeah, playoffs are right now the following: Clemson Bama B1G winner Oklahoma if Bama or Clemson lose, Ohio State gets in. If they both lose, I guess the winner of the PAC 12 gets in (or maybe the other way around since they seem to weight conference champions more).
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Gut feeling (for the second time thanks for eating my post forums) #1 Clemson #2 Bama #3 Iowa/Sparty winner (keeps Sooner from playing Cotton as underdog) #4 Sooner If Clemson/Bama loses, Stanford prob gets in and committee will rank USC going into the P12 title game for justification. If two of Clemson/Bama/Stanford lose, Ohio State might get in depending on where they put UNC going into this weekend. If all three lose then lolololol gently caress it make it Oklahoma vs. the Big Ten WHICH IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE ANYWAY SINCE THE MOST GLORIOUS BIG TEN IS THE ONLY CONFERENCE DESERVING AND FURTHERMORE I
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 05:19 |
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Week 13: Just ignore your problems they'll work themselves out in the end Legend: Bold = bowl eligible Italic = projected eligible ACC Atlantic pre:Clemson 8-0, 12-0 ACCCG 8-0, 13-0 Florida State 6-2, 10-2 Louisville 5-3, 7-5 NC State 3-5, 7-5 Coastal pre:North Carolina 8-0, 11-1 ACCCG 8-0, 11-2 Pittsburgh 6-2, 8-4 Miami 5-3, 8-4 Duke 4-4, 7-5 Virginia Tech 4-4, 6-6 pre:Notre Dame 10-2 Bowl Teams: Clemson, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Florida State, Pittsburgh, Miami, Louisville, NC State, Duke, Virginia Tech Big Ten East pre:Michigan State 7-1, 11-1 B1GCG 7-1, 12-1 Ohio State 7-1, 11-1 Michigan 6-2, 9-3 Penn State 4-4, 7-5 Indiana 2-6, 6-6 West pre:Iowa 8-0, 12-0 B1GCG 8-0, 12-1 Northwestern 6-2, 10-2 Wisconsin 6-2, 9-3 Nebraska 3-5, 5-7 Minnesota 2-6, 5-7 Illinois 2-6, 5-7 Bowl Projected Teams: Iowa, Michigan State, Ohio State, Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Indiana, Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois Big 12 pre:Oklahoma 8-1, 11-1 Oklahoma State 7-2, 10-2 TCU 7-2, 10-2 Baylor 6-2, 9-2 TEX 7-2, 10-2 West Virginia 4-4, 7-4 @KST 5-4, 8-4 Texas Tech 4-5, 7-5 Projected Bowl Teams: Oklahoma, Baylor, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Texas Tech Pac-12 North pre:Stanford 8-1, 10-2 P12CG 8-1, 11-2 Oregon 7-2, 9-3 Washington State 6-3, 8-4 Cal 4-5, 7-5 Washington 4-5, 6-6 South pre:USC 6-3, 8-4 P12CG Utah 6-3, 9-3 UCLA 5-4, 8-4 Arizona State 4-5, 6-6 Arizona 3-6, 6-6 Bowl Teams: Stanford, Oregon, USC, Utah, UCLA, Washington State, Cal, Washington, Arizona State, Arizona SEC East pre:Florida 7-1, 10-2 SECCG 7-1, 10-3 Georgia 5-3, 9-3 Tennessee 5-3, 8-4 With how bad they've looked in the past month, it's more than likely that Bama will be punished for not slaughtering the Gators then Florida would get credit for beating the Tide. The Sugar Bowl's not even in Florida's grasp right now. Kentucky and Mizzou have changes, Mizzou's is better due to APR and Pinkel's Last Ride, whereas UK's #1 in hoops and that's all that really matters in Lexington. West pre:Alabama 7-1, 11-1 SECCG 7-1, 12-1 Ole Miss 6-2, 9-3 LSU 5-3, 8-3 Arkansas 5-3, 7-5 Texas A&M 4-4, 8-4 Mississippi State 4-4, 8-4 Auburn 2-6, 6-6 Bowl Teams: Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Auburn, Kentucky, Missouri American East pre:Temple 7-1, 10-2 AACCG 7-1, 10-3 South Florida 6-2, 8-4 UConn 4-4, 6-6 Cincinnati 4-4, 7-5 East Carolina 3-5, 5-7 West pre:Houston 7-1, 11-1 AACCG 7-1, 12-1 Navy 7-1, 9-2 ARMY 7-1, 10-2 Memphis 5-3, 9-3 Tulsa 3-5, 6-6 Bowl Teams: Houston, Navy, Temple, Memphis, South Florida, Cincinnati, UConn, Tulsa, East Carolina C-USA East pre:Western Kentucky 8-0, 10-2 CUSACG 8-0, 11-2 Marshall 6-2, 9-3 MTSU 6-2, 7-5 Old Dominion 3-5, 5-7 West pre:Southern Miss 7-1, 9-3 CUSACG 7-1, 9-4 Louisiana Tech 6-2, 8-4 Rice 3-5, 5-7 UTEP 3-5, 5-7 Bowl Projected Teams: Western Kentucky, Southern Miss, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, Old Dominion, Rice, UTEP Independents pre:BYU 9-3 Bowl Teams: BYU MAC East pre:Bowling Green 7-1, 9-3 MACCG 7-1, 10-3 Ohio 5-3, 8-4 Akron 5-3, 7-5 Buffalo 3-5, 5-7 pre:Northern Illinois 6-2, 8-4 MACCG 6-2, 8-5 Toledo 6-2, 9-2 Western Michigan 6-2, 7-5 Central Michigan 6-2, 7-5 -There are two games going on concurrently, in this case NIU vs. CMU from one set of hashmarks to the outside and Toledo-WMU from the other. The middle of the field is No Man's Land, you may enter at any time but no penalties will be called there. -Consequently, if someone wanted to enter No Man's Land and interfere with the other game..... -As we'll probably have several injured/dead players in No Man's Land, a Zamboni with a plow in the front will patrol No Man's Land and push any bodies out of the -A live representative of each team's mascot will be allowed onto the field. That means NIU's awesome Huskie dog, a horse for WMU, a Native American for CMU, and a bunch of live ammunition for Toledo. -Every now and then a red white and blue football is tossed onto the field. This is the moneyball and if you score on this play it counts double. -Oh yeah, the Zamboni has a single upright with a bell attached to it. If you ring the bell with the football you get a point. -As in traditional MACtion rules, first to 100 wins. This means if you want to try and kick a GW field goal and now need 9 men to block 33, well..... -30 minutes after MAC THUNDERDOME ends, the winner will take on Bowling Green in the MAC Championship Game. This would be broadcast on PPV and either be the greatest game ever and/or have several officials arrested for war crimes. I wish it was real. Bowl Teams: Bowling Green, Northern Illinois, Toledo, Ohio, Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Akron, Buffalo Mountain West Mountain pre:Air Force 6-2, 8-4 MWCCG 6-2, 8-5 Boise State 5-3, 8-4 New Mexico 5-3, 7-5 Colorado State 5-3, 7-5 Utah State 5-3, 6-6 West pre:San Diego State 8-0, 9-3 MWCCG 8-0, 10-3 Nevada 4-4, 6-6 San Jose State 4-4, 5-7 Bowl Teams: San Diego State, Air Force, Boise State, New Mexico, Colorado State, Utah State, Nevada, San Jose State Sun Belt pre:Arkansas State 7-0, 8-3 TXST 8-0, 9-3 Appalachian State 6-1, 9-2 @USA 7-1, 10-2 Georgia Southern 6-1, 8-3 GAST 7-1, 9-3 Georgia State 4-3, 5-6 @GASO 4-4, 5-7 South Alabama 3-4, 5-6 APP 3-5, 5-7 Bowl Projected Teams: Arkansas State, App State, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, South Alabama, Louisiana-Lafayette # of currently eligible teams: 76 # of projected teams: 76 - 10 (ACC, P12, SEC) 8 (B1G, AAC) 7 (MAC, MWC) 6 (B12) 5 (C-USA) 3 (SB) 1 (Indep) College Football Playoff Orange Bowl: #1 Clemson (ACC Champs) vs. #4 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champs) Cotton Bowl: #2 Alabama (SEC Champs) vs. #3 Michigan State (Big Ten Champs) Sooners win in dominating fashion and make it easy. Clemson and Bama are in provided massive brainfarts don't happen (and the SEC is out if that occurs), while Sparty/Iowa is win and in. Simple enough if everything goes to plan. Peach Bowl: Iowa (At-Large) vs. Florida State (At-Large) Sugar Bowl: Ole Miss (SEC rep) vs. Baylor (Big 12 rep) Fiesta Bowl: Notre Dame (At-Large) vs. Houston (Group of 5 rep) Rose Bowl: Ohio State (B1G Rep) vs. Stanford (Pac-12 Champs) Ole Miss takes over the SEC's spot in the Sugar with Florida having fallen apart. Baylor pounds Texas and that's enough to put them over Oklahoma State. Iowa's loss keeps them from the Rose Bowl again as Ohio State gets the berth where they face Stanford, Pac-12 being the ones left out after all. Iowa goes to the Sugar and faces Florida State, who's late wins put them over Oklahoma State, and Notre Dame gets the Group of 5 rep Houston in the Fiesta. Fairly drama-free unless you count Noles over Cowpokes and even that's not a hill to die on. And the rest: pre:Cactus Bowl Jan. 2 Tempe, Ariz. Big 12 vs. Pac-12 Nevada vs. Cal Alamo Bowl Jan. 2 San Antonio, Tex. Big 12 vs. Pac-12 Oklahoma State vs. Oregon Liberty Bowl Jan. 2 Memphis, Tenn. Big 12 vs. SEC West Virginia vs. Arkansas TaxSlayer Bowl Jan. 2 Jacksonville, Fla. ACC/Big Ten vs. SEC Pitt vs. LSU Citrus Bowl Jan. 1 Orlando, Fla. ACC/Big Ten vs. SEC Michigan vs. Florida Outback Bowl Jan. 1 Tampa, Fla. Big Ten vs. SEC Northwestern vs. Georgia Holiday Bowl Dec. 30 San Diego, Calif. Big Ten vs. Pac-12 Wisconsin vs. USC Music City Bowl Dec. 30 Nashville, Tenn. ACC/Big Ten vs. SEC Penn State vs. Tennessee Belk Bowl Dec. 30 Charlotte, N.C. ACC vs. SEC NC State vs. Mississippi State Birmingham Bowl Dec. 30 Birmingham, Ala. American vs. SEC Temple vs. Auburn Texas Bowl Dec. 29 Houston, Tex. Big 12 vs. SEC Texas Tech vs. Texas A&M Arizona Bowl Dec. 29 Tucson, Ariz. C-USA vs. Mountain West Illinois* vs. Utah State Russell Athletic Bowl Dec. 29 Orlando, Fla. ACC vs. Big 12 North Carolina vs. TCU Armed Forces Bowl Dec. 29 Fort Worth, Tex. Big Ten/Big 12 vs. Mountain West Akron vs. Air Force Quick Lane Bowl Dec. 28 Detroit, Mich. ACC vs. Big Ten Central Michigan vs. Minnesota* Military Bowl Dec. 28 Annapolis, Md. ACC vs. American Duke vs. Navy Foster Farms Bowl Dec. 26 Santa Clara, Calif. Big Ten vs. Pac-12 Indiana vs. UCLA Independence Bowl Dec. 26 Shreveport, La. SEC vs. ACC Arizona State vs. Virginia Tech Pinstripe Bowl Dec. 26 New York, N.Y. ACC vs. Big Ten Louisville vs. Nebraska* Heart of Dallas Bowl Dec. 26 Dallas, Tex. Big Ten/Big 12 vs. C-USA Washington vs. Southern Miss Sun Bowl Dec. 26 El Paso, Tex. ACC vs. Pac-12 Miami vs. Utah St. Petersburg Bowl Dec. 26 St. Petersburg, Fla. American vs C-USA Memphis vs. Western Kentucky Hawaii Bowl Dec. 24 Honolulu, Hawaii American vs. Mountain West/BYU Cincinnati vs. BYU Bahamas Bowl Dec. 24 Nassau, Bahamas C-USA vs. MAC Middle Tennessee vs. Ohio GoDaddy.com Bowl Dec. 23 Mobile, Ala. MAC vs. Sun Belt Bowling Green vs. App State Poinsettia Bowl Dec. 23 San Diego, Calif. Mountain West vs. Army Boise State vs. Arizona Boca Raton Bowl Dec. 22 Boca Raton, Fla. American vs. MAC Tulsa vs. Northern Illinois Idaho Potato Bowl Dec. 22 Boise, Idaho MAC vs. Mountain West Western Michigan vs. Colorado State Miami Beach Bowl Dec. 21 Miami, Fla. American vs. C-USA South Florida vs. Marshall New Orleans Bowl Dec. 19 New Orleans, La. Mountain West vs. Sun Belt vs. Georgia Southern Camellia Bowl Dec. 19 Montgomery, Ala. MAC vs. Sun Belt Toledo vs. Missouri* Royal Purple Bowl Dec. 19 Las Vegas, Nev. Mountain West/BYU vs. Pac-12 San Diego State vs. Washington State New Mexico Bowl Dec. 19 Albuquerque, N.M. C-USA vs. Mountain West Louisiana Tech vs. New Mexico Cure Bowl Dec. 19 Orlando, Fla. American vs. Sun Belt UConn vs. Arkansas State Nebraska Missouri Minnesota San Jose State Illinois Rice Nebraska goes first and with the Big Ten already having a tie-in to the Pinstripe they gladly slide in there and keep the payout in-house. Mizzou is next and they head south to the Camelia for Pinkel's sendoff. Detroit might have made sense and the Quick Lane, but Minnesota is third in line and makes more geographical sense. SJSU is fourth, but we already have a MWC team there and thus they get passed over. Illinois is next and while they're not intriguing, Rice is up next and they're even less of a draw. Kentucky is way down in the APR and behind the other eligible teams so the Big Ten ends up sending all three of their 5-7 teams, giving them eleven total and tying the SEC for the most. Depending on the rankings on Tuesday I might run this back, and do a disaster scenario where Clemson/Bama/Stanford all lose and how that would shake out, just for shits and giggles.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 10:01 |
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Northwestern would at least be a fun opponent but Tampa is such a lovely place and Outback's food sucks so meh.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 11:06 |
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One thing you missed: Kansas State will be 5-7 in your scenario with their 576 APR. That ties them with Missouri and likely sends the fightin Bill Snyders bowling.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 18:00 |
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Southern Miss is a winnable game, I'll take it. We weren't even supposed to make a bowl this year so everything that happens next is gravy.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 19:40 |
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kayakyakr posted:One thing you missed: Kansas State will be 5-7 in your scenario with their 576 APR. That ties them with Missouri and likely sends the fightin Bill Snyders bowling. Dammit I knew I was gonna forget someone. Put them in Arizona over Illinois.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 20:12 |
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If Temple upsets Houston, would they go to the Fiesta and a ND rematch?
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 20:55 |
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DOOP posted:If Temple upsets Houston, would they go to the Fiesta and a ND rematch? Unlikely, in the same way that it wouldn't have been Navy had the Shippers won (even though I screwed that up earlier). Temple/Iowa to the Fiesta, ND/FSU to the Peach.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 20:57 |
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TTU vs A&M in the Texas Bowl should be a lot of fun. There isn't a real rivalry like OU vs Texas, but more like a classless grudge match. Really looking forward to chuckin' tortillas into A&M section.quote:The Red Raider-Aggie relationship has had its bumps over the years, but one of the bigger strains occurred when Texas Tech fans tore down the goal posts 10 years ago.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 21:08 |
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C. Everett Koop posted:Unlikely, in the same way that it wouldn't have been Navy had the Shippers won (even though I screwed that up earlier). Temple/Iowa to the Fiesta, ND/FSU to the Peach. I'm gonna pipe bomb the Playoff office if Ohio State screws Iowa out of a third Rose Bowl. gently caress you, we went undefeated in the regular season this year, you didn't, give us our Rose Bowl
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 21:16 |
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loving Ohio State made me double post.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 21:16 |
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Great, now Lowtax will have to shut down TFF.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 21:34 |
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I don't think there's any way Ohio state gets in over one of the conference champs even with one loss. I think the ACC champ is in no matter who it is. I think Stanford gets in if they win the PAC12 and Florida beats Bama.
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texaholic posted:TTU vs A&M in the Texas Bowl should be a lot of fun. There isn't a real rivalry like OU vs Texas, but more like a classless grudge match. Really looking forward to chuckin' tortillas into A&M section. Not too mention Tech lured Coach McDreamy away from A&M.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 21:47 |
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C. Everett Koop posted:Dammit I knew I was gonna forget someone. Put them in Arizona over Illinois. Noooo I really wanted Illinois to go 5-8 this year
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:14 |
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I was looking at bowl predictions and a lot of people have us playing Northwestern in the Outback Bowl. I know next to nothing about Northwestern except that they're ranked. Anyone here that can fill me in? I'd like to know how we match up.
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Joey Freshwater posted:I was looking at bowl predictions and a lot of people have us playing Northwestern in the Outback Bowl. Usually I'd say you'd be able to roll over them no problem. Hell, usually I'd be surprised they made it to a bowl... They're pretty scrappy this year though. I mean, they did beat Stanford.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 16:23 |
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Joey Freshwater posted:I was looking at bowl predictions and a lot of people have us playing Northwestern in the Outback Bowl. Not a spectacular offense, they almost never pass the ball. Very solid defense. Got blown out by Michigan and Iowa, but finished with 5 wins in a row. E: Justin Jackson is a good RB
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 16:23 |
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Joey Freshwater posted:I was looking at bowl predictions and a lot of people have us playing Northwestern in the Outback Bowl. I'm sure Mangles could give you the best summary but basically they have one of the worst QBs in Division I and a defense that keeps every game tight enough to win (except for those two blowouts). They knocked off Stanford in Week 1 but they got their asses beat by Iowa and Michigan and avoided playing Sparty or Ohio State this year.
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Henchman of Santa posted:got their asses beat by Iowa DJExile posted:Got blown out by Iowa. Iowa beat the snot out of them, we beat the snot out of Iowa, we'll beat the snot out of NW. It makes sense shut up
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 16:56 |
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Yoshifan823 posted:I'm gonna pipe bomb the Playoff office if Ohio State screws Iowa out of a third Rose Bowl. gently caress you, we went undefeated in the regular season this year, you didn't, give us our Rose Bowl This is definitely gonna happen unless they soften their "we're just gonna follow the committee rankings" thing. I miss the old rule where "number of years since last rose bowl" was a tiebreak Guess we just gotta go win the national title instead.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:11 |
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The NCAA is meeting today to figure out exactly what to do with the 5-7 teams. The current policy is only top five 5-7 teams in APR get to be eligible, and any bowl that does/can not take one of those teams will be instead cancelled.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:48 |
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They're not gonna cancel bowl games. They'll let them in.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:00 |
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:They're not gonna cancel bowl games. They'll let them in. For sure. Not even the NCAA is that dumb.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:02 |
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The best case is it'll be some combo of APR scores/name value/geographical considerations since no one wants to travel across the country to see their dumb 5-7 team get their rear end beat/coaching stability/general appeal/who the gently caress knows. Basically, it's a way to get the Nebraska's of the world, good programs in a down year, to a bowl instead of the Kent State's of the world, where they draw not a drat thing. In theory this would also be a chance to pump the brakes on bowls for a bit, but with UAB/Coastal Carolina set to join that frees up 24 more wins and that can make the difference between a drought and a surplus of bowl teams. Add in that midweek bowls beat whatever ESPN has planned otherwise for those nights and I hope you're ready for 4 and Bowl at some point in the future. At least that might get us closer to a 128-team tournament, because if you want me to watch Eastern Michigan play football put them against Alabama or someone and tell me it matters, like how you couldn't get me to watch someone like Maryland/Cal basketball from a neutral site in November but hold it in March and I'll break my back for it.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 19:34 |
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Top 4 controversy is a lot less funnier than "the best 5-7 team" controversy imo.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 20:57 |
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Official: @NCAAFootball Without enough 6-6 teams, remaining bowl bids will be filled by 5-7 teams based on highest Academic Progress Rate. And from ESPN: quote:985 -- Nebraska (5-7) Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Real Name Grover posted:Official: Missouri just announced they aren't interested in a bowl this year.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 23:23 |
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Thoguh posted:Missouri just announced they aren't interested in a bowl this year. Guessing they want the staff to be able to focus on finding work. In Nebraska's case, poo poo, we just need the extra few weeks of practice
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 23:25 |
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If we have a "Cure Bowl," I drat well want to see a Smiths Bowl or a Morrissey Bowl.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 00:00 |
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Thoguh posted:Missouri just announced they aren't interested in a bowl this year. I hope to god the illini get in because I am very excited to go 5-8
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Pinkel had already stated that he didn't want to take a 5-7 bid, so I'm not surprised. I hope the Illini go instead.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 00:40 |
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Joey Freshwater posted:I was looking at bowl predictions and a lot of people have us playing Northwestern in the Outback Bowl. Northwestern lost a lot of games in the 1970s and 1980s, so you should beat them easily. e: Here's the actual deal with Northwestern. They have one of the best defenses in the country, with a senior-laden D-line and an excellent secondary. The offense is cro-magnon Big Ten poo poo. Quarterback Clayton Thorson (I know!) is a freshman and the coaches don't trust him at all. They average less than 140 passing yards a game. The best receiver is a "superback" TE. Thorson can run and will but he also will attempt to take off to his right every time his primary receiver is covered. The entire offense is giving the ball to Justin Jackson and punting then hoping for a pick six or fumble recovery. If Northwestern gets the lead, Pat Fitzgerald will do all but kneel for three possessions and punt starting in the second half. Northwestern has its 4th 10-win season in the history of the program and have never won more, but fans still want OC Mick McCall fired. They have 8 wins by a touchdown or less this season. If Northwestern falls behind, they are utterly hosed. Northwestern is probably punching above its weight in a bowl game and they probably won't win, but the defense is legit. R.D. Mangles fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dr_Strangelove posted:If we have a "Cure Bowl," I drat well want to see a Smiths Bowl or a Morrissey Bowl. throw your homework onto the fire E: Shiela Take A Bowl DJExile fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dr_Strangelove posted:If we have a "Cure Bowl," I drat well want to see a Smiths Bowl or a Morrissey Bowl. For your halftime enjoyment, please welcome the nation's chubbiest dance squad as the Nebraska marching band performs Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others!
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 01:33 |
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As if our marching band would play anything edgier than Andrew Lloyd Weber
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 01:38 |
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Dr_Strangelove posted:If we have a "Cure Bowl," I drat well want to see a Smiths Bowl or a Morrissey Bowl. Elliott Smith Bowl losers program gets shuttered winners program also gets shuttered
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 09:11 |
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Tennessee can go to the World Trade Center Bowl.
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Tennessee playing Penn State and loving that bald fraud James Franklin would be awesome
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