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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

I work with a guy who is about 35 and uses them constantly…
............tell us more!!!!!!!!!

Honestly the thing that broke my heart the most about hearing those ascribed to Boomer sensibilities is that I adored using them sarcastically but imagined it still makes me look old when I do so


Pham Nuwen posted:

The true Boomer move is to just start hitting "." or worse "," whenever your brain slips out of gear and don't stop until you figure out the next thing you're going
to write.

my horse,,,,,,,,,,won't eat his multivitamins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do u have any ideas????
This is extraordinarily true yet I have never seen it explained so perfectly so thank you for the context

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EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

LimaBiker posted:

Now including 4 extra Boomer elipses!

Cna you just in imagine if the e ad was made by younger zoombers XDXDXD

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Pham Nuwen posted:

The true Boomer move is to just start hitting "." or worse "," whenever your brain slips out of gear and don't stop until you figure out the next thing you're going
to write.

my horse,,,,,,,,,,won't eat his multivitamins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do u have any ideas????

What I love about this trope it seems to be very international. Lot of boomer stuff I read online seem to be very US boomer centric, but the countless ellipses or commas are the thing that binds all boomers together around the world.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Pham Nuwen posted:

The true Boomer move is to just start hitting "." or worse "," whenever your brain slips out of gear and don't stop until you figure out the next thing you're going to write.

my horse,,,,,,,,,,won't eat his multivitamins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,do u have any ideas????

This could literally be an email from my dad.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
My grandparents refuse to read anything that isn't in comic sans.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

credburn posted:

My grandparents refuse to read anything that isn't in comic sans.

I wish I could live this life.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

EVIL Gibson posted:

I wish I could live this life.

Angrily scrawling "return to sender" on any envelope that comes through my letterbox that's not got Papyrus or Wingdings on it.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Ironically, engineers can't even do basic multiplication without a calculator now.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Star Man posted:

Ironically, engineers can't even do basic multiplication without a calculator now.

The guys in the ad were literally using mechanical calculators to do multiplication

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Doing multiplication in your head is a neat party trick, but no one actually cares when you can use a device that always gives the right answer.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Andrew Tate said that you should never waste time multiplying in your head, you should only multiply women giving you head.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




I regularly think back to how we were told there’d be times we needed to do maths without a calculator as I walk around with a calculator in my pocket 24/7 or spend 8 hours a day sat in front of excel.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
An understanding of math is still needed. I have several calculators that can do differential equations, but I don't know what a differential equation is, what it does, when to use it and how to enter it into my calculators, and I wouldn't know if the answer that came out was correct.

Of course, if you try to actually build some understanding of math in the population say for instance by introducing common core math, there is a non-zero chance that you will be killed for practicing witchcraft.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




And it is actually useful to be decent at daily maths. Like yeah we have phones, but it is annoying to pull it out and open the calculator app and do a thing. And I do it too much myself and I get annoyed when I feel like it should (and probably would) have been faster to calculate in my head.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



also playing blackjack in Fallout New Vegas reminds me how lovely I am at rapidly summing up small numbers

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


The point about learning maths in school is not that you become a human calculator and can swear off excel forever, it's that you develop a gut feel for numbers that comes in very handy when negotiating pay or looking at a financing deal for a new car, for example. It's way too easy to get seriously taken advantage of in this world if you don't have a feel for when to keep talking and when to just plain turn down predatory offers. Maths: it's important but in ways that school rarely tells you!

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



simple math in my head is still infinitely faster than pulling out my phone, figuring out where the calculator app is, trying to type in the digits but it missed an input, erasing and starting over and then getting distracted when a notification pops up.

imo you need to at least have your multiplication tables up to 12 memorized, as well as a basic understanding of fractions. Everything else can be fudged.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Pham Nuwen posted:

also playing blackjack in Fallout New Vegas reminds me how lovely I am at rapidly summing up small numbers

The pro FNV strat is a high luck build where you basically win every hand automatically. Rush to the Casinos and clean them out to get all the implant upgrades.

Bisexual build optional but recommended

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Armacham posted:

The pro FNV strat is a high luck build where you basically win every hand automatically. Rush to the Casinos and clean them out to get all the implant upgrades.

Bisexual build optional but recommended

I didn't max out luck but once you're at ~7, just playing like the dealer (and doubling down on 11) lets you clean out a casino in 10 minutes or so.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

HKR posted:

simple math in my head is still infinitely faster than pulling out my phone, figuring out where the calculator app is, trying to type in the digits but it missed an input, erasing and starting over and then getting distracted when a notification pops up.

imo you need to at least have your multiplication tables up to 12 memorized, as well as a basic understanding of fractions. Everything else can be fudged.

There's a deadline in life where you can easily learn how to do this in your head and then it's locked out and it's now ROM.

Same thing with languages.

But then there are those that have an FPGA and can rewrite the schematics on the fly and learn how to easily learn languages and complex mathematics in their head. Usually after extensive brain damage and the person becomes a savant .

BUG: chance of the "rain man" effect

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Pham Nuwen posted:

I didn't max out luck but once you're at ~7, just playing like the dealer (and doubling down on 11) lets you clean out a casino in 10 minutes or so.

Yeah I usually take a 7 to start and then you can get some good luck items early on that help.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Armacham posted:

The pro FNV strat is a high luck build where you basically win every hand automatically. Rush to the Casinos and clean them out to get all the implant upgrades.

Bisexual build optional but recommended

I'm gonna do a Confirmed Bachelor run because I'm a ladies man who doesn't want to get tied down and want to game all the wasteland gals.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Gromit posted:

I'm gonna do a Confirmed Bachelor run because I'm a ladies man who doesn't want to get tied down and want to game all the wasteland gals.

Fallout New Vegas: the official game of pegging all the enemy male leaders into submission

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Armacham posted:

The pro FNV strat is a high luck build where you basically win every hand automatically. Rush to the Casinos and clean them out to get all the implant upgrades.

Bisexual build optional but recommended

And remember to hit the one casino you didn't even know existed!

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



credburn posted:

My grandparents refuse to read anything that isn't in comic sans.
Top 1 signs your grandparents might be dyslexic?

There are fonts that might do better, but it hasn't really been studied enough to say anything conclusive, and the studies that have been done aren't very statistically applicable because of low sample sizes and lack of controls.
Still, comic sans is one of the fonts that's known to help dyslexic people.

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Love the design of this old multimeter:



From here, where they point out it's a knockoff of a Fluke from the same era.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I missed the multimeter talk, but i bought a Fluke 117 and now I have a Fluke 117 and I don't have to worry about whether or not I need a multimeter anymore for household poo poo. I think I paid like $199 for it in 2018 and now I have it forever. Buy that stuff early and never worry about it again.

DreadUnknown
Nov 4, 2020

Bird is the word.

Trabant posted:

Love the design of this old multimeter:



From here, where they point out it's a knockoff of a Fluke from the same era.

Ooh thats really cool.
I discovered this rad archive of old broadcasting gear catalogs that might interest some of y'all.
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Equipment_Catalogs_Gates.htm

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
Janus Cycle just dropped a good video on an awesome Japan-only clamshell Zaurus PDA

I had one of the older models with the slider, decked out with compactflash WiFi and a huge-for-the time memory card. A massive 128MB I think it was. :c00lbutt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFMZECRgOVk

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Janus cycle is very underrated, I like pretty much all their videos.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




MSDOS 4.0 just went open source.

https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2024/04/25/open-sourcing-ms-dos-4-0/

They also released a beta version of dos 4 that was designed to multitask :psypop:

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
They put out the source code for 3d movie maker a while back

https://github.com/microsoft/Microsoft-3D-Movie-Maker

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Beve Stuscemi posted:

MSDOS 4.0 just went open source.

https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2024/04/25/open-sourcing-ms-dos-4-0/

They also released a beta version of dos 4 that was designed to multitask :psypop:

You know, I seem to recall never actually seeing any iteration of 4 installed on anything back in the day. Everything went from like 3.3 to 5 and skipped 4 entirely. Was 4 the D&D 4 of operating systems or something

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Fil5000 posted:

You know, I seem to recall never actually seeing any iteration of 4 installed on anything back in the day. Everything went from like 3.3 to 5 and skipped 4 entirely. Was 4 the D&D 4 of operating systems or something

As I understand it: Basically yes. They went off on a tangent and designed a multitasking DOS, complete with a fullscreen launcher to manage and switch between programs. IIRC it used a lot more RAM than 3 and was never entirely finished, but was shipped on some weird European business machines. There is also a separate "4" that was a more normal "3 with a few upgrades" that they made with IBM, but I don't think that had any sort of wide distribution either.

E: MT-DOS 4 at betawiki

E2: Oh OS/2 is kind of a descendant - I thought it was already around when this launched, but no.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A DOS 4 certainly came bundled with IBM computers at some point, but they also had an upgrade package. I know because dad brought one home from work and installed it on our 286 XT. Worked fine lDK.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Why don't they release the code for all versions of DOS at this point?

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Why is Descent 3 not open source?

Reasons

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

3D Megadoodoo posted:

A DOS 4 certainly came bundled with IBM computers at some point, but they also had an upgrade package. I know because dad brought one home from work and installed it on our 286 XT. Worked fine lDK.

IBM released a different version called MS-DOS (as opposed to the MT-DOS for multitasking) 4.00 that had other system upgrades. The Microsoft article mentions both versions, source is only released for MS-DOS 4.0 (they couldn't find it for MT-DOS), but they released the compiled/release versions of both in this open source release. Ars' article on the release goes into a bit more detail: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/microsoft-and-ibm-release-source-code-for-one-of-the-weirdest-versions-of-ms-dos/

e:

By popular demand posted:

Why don't they release the code for all versions of DOS at this point?

It sounds like Microsoft has an office dedicated to releasing stuff as open source, and that's important and good, but there's certainly a lot more modern stuff Microsoft is releasing as OSS that's more important to current corporate projects than releasing old versions of MS-DOS. So the stuff for DOS is probably getting worked on on the side, and it's not easy work, likely - there's definitely corporate archaeology involved in tracking down old source to release, but you also have to make sure that you legally have the rights to release the software in question (does it contain third-party code that needs to be removed or replaced, for example), find the right license, and then get Microsoft legal to approve the whole thing. Certainly more complicated than just dropping a bunch of files in an ftp and saying have at (and it's worth mentioning that Microsoft HAS done that for all of DOS and older versions of Windows, it's just executables with no warranty instead of fully open sourcing the code). Compare to how when John Carmack used to release the various iD engines he wrote under the GPL, he'd always release the Linux versions (at least from Doom on), because those had the least third-party code in them, and were the easiest for him to personally clean up and make sure it all worked before he gave it to the public.

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HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



Star Man posted:

Why is Descent 3 not open source?

Reasons

https://github.com/DescentDevelopers/Descent3

????

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ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

Fil5000 posted:

Everything went from like 3.3 to 5 and skipped 4 entirely. Was 4 the D&D 4 of operating systems or something
I think MS-DOS 5 was the first version sold at retail, instead of through OEM.

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