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Yo joe vs Nakamura rules and I never got the criticism of Nakamura for not giving his all every single match. He has a long history of injuries and is starting to get older. It only makes sense for him save his best poo poo for his big matches. He has charisma for days and can get away with it. Ziggler doesn't have much charisma so he has to over compensate.
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Basically what I'm saying here is, Brock is Raw and Samoa Joe is SmackDown Live.
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Nov 20, 2016 08:59
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SamuraiFoochs posted:
Shut up SamuraiFoochs
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Nov 20, 2016 09:03
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I don't know what the gently caress they are thinking. Their entire singles division is heels, heels and more heels, how the gently caress are they going to put the belt on Joe and beat Dillinger in the same night? I don't know how long Aries is going to be out with his eye, but there's still Strong, EY, Roode, Almas, and now Samson. All they've got on the good guy bench now that Tye has taken a decisive loss is Jose, and Jose does not have the momentum for a Main Event push right now. Are we really going to just be all Nakamura until the next Takeover? I don't care how much you like Nakamura, he can't be the only singles babyface on the show. It really is Balor/Joe all over again. Man that really spoiled the match for me. I can't even appreciate what a good finish it was because the implications of the finish stretch out for like two or three months and all blow. At least the Tag Division is looking good with DIY on top. Sanity and the Authors could both be great opponents for them. Hopefully Revival will get their rematch done and then go up to the big time so that can play out. TM61 is struggling, but with fresh face champs and those two new huge dudes already clicking, its less of a problem and they can take some time to try and fix it, especially if the Bollywood Boys are going to hang around as well. I think the women are going to be fine too. I think they've been doing a good enough job of lying the groundwork so the aussies, Aliyah, Nikki Cross, Ember and Liv will soon emerge a fully-fledged division. Most of them are still green, but half the time people say they want to see green people developing rather than fully polished indy stars showing off, so I refuse to hold that against them, and Asuka has had her aura of invulnerability punctured a bit, which will help them. I could see Ember and Nikki both as viable contenders for her now, and they can anchor the division while the other four grow if Asuka needs to be called up.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:04
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The_Rob posted:Yo joe vs Nakamura rules and I never got the criticism of Nakamura for not giving his all every single match. I've only ever actually heard (and I wholeheartedly agree with!) people praising Nakamura for wisely doing as little as possible while still remaining at maximum overness - he figured out immediately upon arrival on what he needed to do to get over and he does what he can to limit pushing his body too hard in order to extend his career. I mean I don't think there is any doubt he's the most over guy in NXT, dude knows what he is doing.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:11
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Holy loving poo poo The Revival vs DIY was amazing. I haven't seen anything less than a fantastic match with The Revival in it in an entire year. Goddamn they're good. Best tag team on earth. The opener was a lot of fun. The main event was also really good and with the surprise ending I'm not sure what it means for the future. I was hoping to see Joe on the main roster killing dudes.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:35
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Beyond the fact that they'll continue to tour on Joe / Nak, the low blow is their in for another rematch.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:38
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I feel like the card was so expertly done. Like it was extremely well paced for a wrestling show. Every match was put where it should have been.
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DoctorGonzo posted:Shut up SamuraiFoochs No. And I told you to shut up because I'm pretty sure you unironically support Donald Trump which makes me loathe you, not so much for your bad wrestling opinions. I guess the Brock comparison was spurious but I hate Joe's promos, and I can't put my finger on why. He's this bizarre amalgam of monster heel and whiny heel. Like he doesn't just wreck poo poo when he's mad, he honestly  s at times and it's effective heeling, it just doesn't land great for me.
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Cardboard Box posted:i would immediately assume raw because new day needs fresh opponents Sheamus and Cesaro won their match at HIAC by DQ. I'm 100% certain they'll get a rematch at Roadblock where TND will lose the titles. If so, they'll lose the rematch at the Rumble, and in an ideal world Kofi will either win the Rumble or win a match for a UC shot at Wrestlemania. e: Sanguinia posted:All they've got on the good guy bench now that Tye has taken a decisive loss is Jose, and Jose does not have the momentum for a Main Event push right now. Are we really going to just be all Nakamura until the next Takeover? I don't care how much you like Nakamura, he can't be the only singles babyface on the show. Swann I guess? Itami when he comes back? Yeah, I agree with you here. Venomous fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 12:19
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I really really hope The Revival & DIY end up like Owens on the main roster, and not like most the NXT call ups. They're all great and deserve lots of fame and money.
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I get the feeling that HHH is really really into The Revival so I can see them doing well.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:No. And I told you to shut up because I'm pretty sure you unironically support Donald Trump which makes me loathe you, not so much for your bad wrestling opinions. nice meltdown
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Nov 20, 2016 14:32
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https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Someone inform me what's impressive about this suplex, please. Does Joe have a unique hold on him to grip or something? It seems unimpressive otherwise.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:50
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I think that he did 3 suplex variations on that sequence, looked pretty cool.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:52
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw It was a chimera plex. Named after the mythical beast with the body of a dragon and the head of a German, wearing a straight jacket.
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Nov 20, 2016 15:06
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Oh so you're able to do this to a 230 lb man with ease? Why aren't you in wwe right now?
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Nov 20, 2016 15:19
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The_Rob posted:Oh so you're able to do this to a 230 lb man with ease? Why aren't you in wwe right now? Adam Cole does it better
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Nov 20, 2016 15:22
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw He is pinning Shinsukes arms to his sides limiting his ability kick out
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Nov 20, 2016 15:24
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IcePhoenix posted:I'm even more confused then because it was pretty even I thought it was like 70% Joe.
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Nov 20, 2016 16:16
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/800176827595526144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoWzjGL5GOE
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Nov 20, 2016 16:59
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oatgan posted:He is pinning Shinsukes arms to his sides limiting his ability kick out Right, now I see why they gif'd it. DoctorGonzo posted:I think that he did 3 suplex variations on that sequence, looked pretty cool. Not sure why they cut it before the other two then. The_Rob posted:Oh so you're able to do this to a 230 lb man with ease? Why aren't you in wwe right now? This aint striking the point I was making nor a good point to make. It's not visually impressive for wrestling based on the things we see wrestlers do sometimes for people who don't know the move.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:05
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Josuke Higashikata posted:This aint striking the point I was making nor a good point to make. It's not visually impressive for wrestling based on the things we see wrestlers do sometimes for people who don't know the move. It's a moment from the match. It's not necessarily the biggest moment. Also straight-jacket suplexes are cool. I don't know what IS your point here and it's probably not worth this extended discussion, with all due respect.
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nakamura is smart for not doing max effort for wednesday NXT poo poo, it's not like anyone even on this board gives a gently caress about nxt weekly shows anyway. his PPV matches with Zayn/Balor/Joe have all been at the very least fantastic. Samoa Joe is having a loving ridiculous year given how he came out of the hell that was TNA looking bad and completely revitalized himself and the title picture. I badly want him to come to SD and face AJ, idk how that would make sense but I don't care. No idea who they can build up to beat him though, given lack of faces.
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Only complaint I have about the show was I really didn't want Nakamura/Joe to be 9 months like Finn/Joe was 9 months, but yeah it looks like it's probably going to another Takeover Hopefully someday they have the guts to end with a tag match, because goddamn if that 2 out of 3 falls match wouldn't have been an amazing end to the show
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Nov 20, 2016 18:09
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Right, now I see why they gif'd it. Maybe pay attention to what he is doing? What exactly do you want? Do you want him to say ok guys I'm changing my hold on him right before he does it? He goes from a normal German to a dragon suplex to a straight jacket suplex. What exactly do you need explained to you?
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Nov 20, 2016 18:18
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That sequence looked brutal. Give me that over flippy stuff.
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If you don't think three different kinds of suplexes in a row just loving rules, then I dunno what to tell you. Suplex City has made the suplex in general a lot lamer and less special, but that was still awesome because it looked great and was treated as a big deal.
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DoctorGonzo posted:That sequence looked brutal. Give me that over flippy stuff. As someone who really likes the flippy poo poo, I did love that suplex sequence. Graves may have helped with that. Does Corey Graves' hair height increase his announcing quality? Does it just help that he has good matches to comment on for the NXT specials?
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Nov 20, 2016 18:51
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The_Rob posted:Maybe pay attention to what he is doing? What exactly do you want? Do you want him to say ok guys I'm changing my hold on him right before he does it? He goes from a normal German to a dragon suplex to a straight jacket suplex. What exactly do you need explained to you? Nowt, 'cos I was wondering the significance and it was already explained.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:55
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Chris James 2 posted:Only complaint I have about the show was I really didn't want Nakamura/Joe to be 9 months like Finn/Joe was 9 months, but yeah it looks like it's probably going to another Takeover I can see them doing Joe/Shinsuke again in January, then bringing Joe up at the Rumble the next night, followed by Roode taking the belt in April, and Nakamura coming up at the Monday or Tuesday show.
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achillesforever6 posted:MRT is the one who started it 3 years ago so its hardly a new take; a little justified imo because Nakamura does phone it in a lot in non important matches. Just look at KENTA for comparison, he's been wrestling a year or two longer, he's a year younger, and his body is made out of glass. Even if none of the injuries are his fault and total freak accidents he's still gotten a ton of time chipped off his career from house show matches. When you ooze charisma like Nakamura and your entrance theme is more over than anyone else on the roster why would you ever risk it
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This was a pretty medium show overall. The tagtitle match was amazing (obviously) and the main event was good. The Dusty Classic final had some serious structuring and pacing problems which is impressive for such a short match. Whoever agented that match should be ashamed of themselves. Having Roode go over Tye Dillinger made absolutely no sense at all. Roode doesn't need the win at all. If they're in any way serious about making Tye Dillinger anything other than a jobber he needs to get a big win. The womens match was alright, at least Asuka tried to sell a little bit for Mickie James but realistically there was no way that Asuka was ever losing that match since I doubt Mickie wants to go back to a full time schedule.
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Nov 20, 2016 19:35
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I agree that Dillinger should have won. They need more strong faces on NXT and Roode does not need to be undefeated.
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Nov 20, 2016 19:54
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MrBling posted:Having Roode go over Tye Dillinger made absolutely no sense at all. Roode doesn't need the win at all. If they're in any way serious about making Tye Dillinger anything other than a jobber he needs to get a big win. I have bad news for you
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Eltoasto posted:
???What? So there's no chance of her being called up to the main roster?
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TV Zombie posted:???What? So there's no chance of her being called up to the main roster?
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Nov 20, 2016 20:13
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TV Zombie posted:???What? So there's no chance of her being called up to the main roster? Not everybody can or will be called up until they absolutely have people able to replace them, especially with NXT touring. You need names to sell, and otherwise you'd be down to relying on Eric Young to sell tickets for house shows and Takeovers Bayley wasn't even called up until Asuka was definitely there and built up, for reference
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I'm not really interested in seeing Asuka on the main roster doing anything other than annihilating everyone and somehow unifying all three belts.
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A lot of NXT's recent problems stem from the topcard cull that comes from being developmental (and this applies to the writers too). The revival should be the only people going up in the near future, as the tag division is the only one that's been slightly built back up since the brand split induced strip mining, and in the Revival's particular case they've had two solid reigns on top already and don't need anymore refining. With DIY, Sanity, AoP &TM61 you have a decent base for a division, whereas without Nakamura or Asuka and their immediate contenders, there's only really 1 person in each singles division approaching ready for a title challenge push (Roode, Ember (barely))
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