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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://x.com/RGGStudio/status/1785770191508410552

That's How Yakuza Works

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Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
Just finished 7. I started the series with 0 last year, and while I've really enjoyed all the games since - the kiwamis were great, 3 was a little rough, but 4 to 6 were a pleasing upward climb in quality, it still often felt like I was chasing the same high that 0 had and never quite hitting it.

7's where I feel like I got there though, it's as good or even better than 0.

The RPG style combat makes general fights around town a lot more fun, though I will say it falters a bit in boss fights - it doesn't have the same visceral feeling of mashing combos and hitting QTEs as you settle things with your fists. Which made me appreciate the very final boss being 1v1 with no weapons and some quick time events at the end. It's like they knew! That said having bosses like Jingu or Tanimura's final fight from 4 that just spam bodyguards are a lot more fun to handle when you can drown them in champagne or shoot them with an orbital laser.

I was tempted to play with the dub since it's a soft reboot, but I couldn't resist sticking with the Japanese cast, especially since Ichiban shares a voice actor with Nishikiyama, and my god can he still hit those heart-wrenching emotional notes I remember from the time Kiryu stole his car. That said, I'm extremely livid that Masato got killed at the end. Enough Yakuza villains have committed suicide that Ichiban talking him down felt really dicey and well earned when it worked. So having weird stalker Kume bust out of nowhere with a knife was a real kick in the dick.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Playing Kiwami 1 now.

Is there some trick to getting Goromi to appear? I've gone into the right club twice so far and only gotten Rina.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

Regalingualius posted:

Playing Kiwami 1 now.

Is there some trick to getting Goromi to appear? I've gone into the right club twice so far and only gotten Rina.

Have you had a text from Nishida saying that there's a hostess who won't quit until she meets Kiryu and it'd be better for everyone if she did quit?

I think you need to get your Majima Everywhere rank to a certain level for it, but it's not a high one.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Yeah, I did get the email from Nishi, and also got a call from him about Majima hiding in plain sight. Currently capped out F-rank.

trevorreznik
Apr 22, 2023

Regalingualius posted:

Yeah, I did get the email from Nishi, and also got a call from him about Majima hiding in plain sight. Currently capped out F-rank.

Look for a giant traffic cone

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/181171-yakuza-kiwami/faqs/75194/majima-everywhere-system

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



if your bar is capped then majima won't appear anywhere other than his rank-up event ("hiding in plain sight") which should have a map marker for it. you have to do that event to continue encountering him elsewhere.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
there are a lot of hidden triggers and rng involved with majima everywhere. i highly recommend not trying too hard to complete all of it.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Ohh, yeah, I’ve already faced him 20-something times.

I’m only in chapter 4 :stonk:

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
just find the funny scenes on youtube, imo. all the benefits, none of the downsides.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Kiwami 1 really could have used some more time in the oven, like you could probably say that about large swaths of Like A Dragon game mechanics, but Kiwami 1 is pretty close to, you know. Not having baffling flaws that could be fixed in one afternoon by tweaking the Majima spawn rates and adding a level up reset mechanic like Isshin/0 have.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
I think all of the Majima Everywhere events that have actual cutscenes and unique content are fairly easy to achieve, it's getting the rare Majimas and high ranks that feels like Shiny Pokemon levels of grind.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Majima Everywhere isn’t as grindy and RNG as it appears, I got to S just by finishing the game and took it to maxed rank (think it’s SSS, I can’t remember how high it goes) in a couple of hours when I just focused on it.

There are places you can go to force certain spawns and they’re not that time consuming to trigger at all.

History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 08:41 on May 2, 2024

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Shyrka posted:

Just finished 7. I started the series with 0 last year, and while I've really enjoyed all the games since - the kiwamis were great, 3 was a little rough, but 4 to 6 were a pleasing upward climb in quality, it still often felt like I was chasing the same high that 0 had and never quite hitting it.

7's where I feel like I got there though, it's as good or even better than 0.

The RPG style combat makes general fights around town a lot more fun, though I will say it falters a bit in boss fights - it doesn't have the same visceral feeling of mashing combos and hitting QTEs as you settle things with your fists. Which made me appreciate the very final boss being 1v1 with no weapons and some quick time events at the end. It's like they knew! That said having bosses like Jingu or Tanimura's final fight from 4 that just spam bodyguards are a lot more fun to handle when you can drown them in champagne or shoot them with an orbital laser.

I was tempted to play with the dub since it's a soft reboot, but I couldn't resist sticking with the Japanese cast, especially since Ichiban shares a voice actor with Nishikiyama, and my god can he still hit those heart-wrenching emotional notes I remember from the time Kiryu stole his car. That said, I'm extremely livid that Masato got killed at the end. Enough Yakuza villains have committed suicide that Ichiban talking him down felt really dicey and well earned when it worked. So having weird stalker Kume bust out of nowhere with a knife was a real kick in the dick.

I’ve only finished 0,1,2 and 7 and I started 3 and judgement. I’ll get around to finishing those but yeah I definitely felt like 0 and 7 were a clear step above.

Looking forward to playing 8 tho!!!

I did buy 3-5 on steam to play on the handheld pc thing I have eventually. They’re old enough they run super well handheld

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."


Kiryu's 1988 apartment is so cool. And look at that crisp full moon! Yakuza 0 really has the most immaculate vibes.



Another casualty of the Dragon Engine is the bartenders no longer have a encyclopedic knowledge of every drink they serve. Someone who came into the series with 7 will never know what VSOP stands for.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Wolfsheim posted:




Another casualty of the Dragon Engine is the bartenders no longer have a encyclopedic knowledge of every drink they serve. Someone who came into the series with 7 will never know what VSOP stands for.

I've mostly stopped drinking but man this series tests me sometimes

when they have the cutscenes with the big ice ball in the tumblr, and whiskey sloshing around it, oh baby

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Wolfsheim posted:

Another casualty of the Dragon Engine is the bartenders no longer have a encyclopedic knowledge of every drink they serve. Someone who came into the series with 7 will never know what VSOP stands for.

Also losing the delicious-looking 3d models of the drinks, that's the worst part

edit: When I first played a Dragon Engine game (I guess it would have been Y6) I remember being excited to see how awesome the drinks would look, only to be gravely disappointed

Your Uncle Dracula
Apr 16, 2023
They put that time into realistic bread physics and it was worth it.

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica
I want that big disgusting plate of fugu that Shimano eats

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



These games all make me very hungry, mostly for takoyaki.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I would demolish some takoyaki right now

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


I hope one of the business side games in a future title is just running a restaurant, with HD food porn for all the drinks and dishes

They could save resources by cutting the FMV team

Your Uncle Dracula
Apr 16, 2023
Or have the FMV team cook steaks like Dragon's Dogma 2 instead of making softcore porn.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



RGG Studio presents...

Cook
Serve
NANI?!

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."


Pour one out for SYNTAX ERROR, the amazingly named Champion District bar that I'm pretty sure did not survive past 1988. Also every time Kiryu runs into Oda I can't help but think of how funny it is in Infinite Wealth that all of his memories are positive but when he gets to Oda he goes "oh yeah, gently caress that guy" lol

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

Your Uncle Dracula posted:

Or have the FMV team cook steaks like Dragon's Dogma 2 instead of making softcore porn.

My first thought as well and I really hope they do this.

Instead of hiring softcore porn actresses they should literally just film a takoyaki stall in Dotonbori

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun

AlphaKeny1 posted:

My first thought as well and I really hope they do this.

Instead of hiring softcore porn actresses they should literally just film a takoyaki stall in Dotonbori

instructions unclear, RGG Studio has filmed 40 hours of vtubers eating takoyaki

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


Geomijul has found a lucrative new business in mukbang and they want Ichiban to run it

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



AlphaKeny1 posted:

My first thought as well and I really hope they do this.

Instead of hiring softcore porn actresses they should literally just film a takoyaki stall in Dotonbori
as long as the takoyaki stall staff hold the food out to the camera and then have to awkwardly dump it on the ground to pretend they gave it to you

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

Is there some point between the Yakuzas where it makes most sense to play Ishin, Judgement games and Gaiden? Or can I just pick them up whenever?

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Gaiden should definitely come before Infinite Wealth.

Canonically Judgement 1 takes place after 6 and Lost Judgement takes place after 7, though that might be a strange experience to actually play.

Ishin originally came out between 5 and 0 though the references are all over the place especially in the rerelease.

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

Thanks, I guess I'll pick them all up after I finish 7, should give more time for IW to get a bigger discount maybe.

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
you can definitely play Ishin whenever, the references are almost exclusively "this guy in Ishin looks like a guy in another game", and there's absolutely nothing you'd have to know about the mainline games to understand what's happening in Ishin

Judgment and Lost Judgment are their own thing too, though maybe having some context about the Tojo and Omi clans as of 2018 could round out the setting

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Ainsley McTree posted:

I hope one of the business side games in a future title is just running a restaurant, with HD food porn for all the drinks and dishes

They could save resources by cutting the FMV team

RGG hears you loud and clear: restaurant management minigame that gives you a ton of money, and the FMV team is dedicated to filming the waitresses who want to date you when you max out their stats.

Or I guess they'd be more like "Ichiban-san, I came up with a recipe in my bedroom we could add to the menu. Let me slip into something more comfortable like lingerie and then I will awkwardly move it to the camera as if I were feeding you."

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 12:56 on May 4, 2024

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
It’s funny because that actually sounds really fun. You could even do the 0/K2 thing of framing the “dates” as training for customer service.

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer

MorningMoon posted:

RGG hears you loud and clear: restaurant management minigame that gives you a ton of money, and the FMV team is dedicated to filming the waitresses who want to date you when you max out their stats.

Or I guess they'd be more like "Ichiban-san, I came up with a recipe in my bedroom we could add to the menu. Let me slip into something more comfortable like lingerie and then I will awkwardly move it to the camera as if I were feeding you."

"This restaurant advertising job is wonderful. I've always wanted to frolic in a kiddie pool full of mayonnaise and now I trust you enough to do it!"

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Last Celebration posted:

It’s funny because that actually sounds really fun. You could even do the 0/K2 thing of framing the “dates” as training for customer service.

that's how the cabaret minigame in 4 worked, i think. it was so boring.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
After player characters and Amon, who are the strongest fighters in the series?

I think Ryuji's gotta be at the top of the pack. More than anyone else he's framed as Kiryu's equal, and he was able to fight a fully grown Majima when he was 11. Sure he lost, but Majima definitely felt that. Ryuji's a genetic freak, and not normal.

I kind of want to place Kashiwagi high up, because he's got that 'fastest QTE in the game' punch, but he still ends the fight knocked the gently caress out, not 'bruised and winded'. That could just be a testament to how far he's willing to go to protect Nishki - he literally won't stop until he's unconscious, he's not gonna give up and say, "Hey, you know what you're a good fighter Majima, alright I'll tell you," so it's not that he's got a glass jaw compared to Nishitani or Wen Hai Lee it's just that the fight can't end any other way.

Awano and Tendo both have similar environment shattering punches, though Awano himself admits he's not all he could be, we still see him casually catch a punch from Kiryu. He was probably a beast in his prime.

Obviously Komaki's the master of the deadliest fighting style going, though he's definitely hampered by his age. As much as he talks himself up, it never really feels like he could beat Kiryu in a serious fight.

Speaking of old guys, Hirose does pretty good for being in his 80s, and he's one of the few characters like Kiryu that are seriously accepted as being able to walk through a building full of hardened criminals and beat the poo poo out of all of them.

Aizawa similarly is seen having solo'd the Tojo Clan headquarters, but between his performance in the Coliseum and the fact he's fighting Kiryu with a cutscene bullet wound slowing him down, I don't really rate him very highly.

No one from 3 or 4 really stands out to me. Mine's a good villain and boss fight but he doesn't really have any impressive feats nor reputation to really elevate him as a physical threat, really he feels like the midpoint or baseline for what a final boss needs to be. Kind of like Shibusawa. Arai's interesting in that Akiyama calls him out as 'being the next Dragon of Dojima' but we don't see him do much or even get to fight him. I guess because he's an undercover cop. The series is pretty scrupulous about making sure you never actually fight the police. Well, other than Munakata himself, but he's backed up by weird special forces black ops guys like Jingu had rather than regular cops.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

the tigers and bears

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Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

the construction equipment

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