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So Kahlua + vodka is basically a double vodka with a shot of espresso
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 17:48 |
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# ? May 19, 2024 15:34 |
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what i wanna know is how is it spelled because all you dee dee dees keep saying different versions.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 18:27 |
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rediscover posted:what i wanna know is how is it spelled because all you dee dee dees keep saying different versions. Yeah I just want a simple answer but there seems to be two sides of the issue, basically how is it correctly spelled and is it Vodka or not? And why would I mix vodka with vodka plus milk or something? That sounds disgusting.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:01 |
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In the United States, liquor generally refers to plain distilled alcoholic beverages (vodka, whiskey, rum) Liquer is a sweeter, flavored alcoholic beverage that is formed using a base liquor. They are typically less alcoholic. Vodka is a liquor having an alcohol content of 40% or greater Kahlua is a liquer made from rum (a liquor) and flavored with coffee flavor, corn syrup and vanilla. It is 20% alcohol by volume. Kahlua is not a vodka because it isn't even a liquor to begin with, nor is it made from vodka. It's not just a rum either, because it has a lot of extra poo poo added to it. It's more like a pre-bottled cocktail on its own. Or you can just call it a liquer since we have a name for that sort of thing already. You mix vodka with Kahlua to make the cocktail more alcoholic since Kahlua is very sweet on its own. Mixing alcohol with dairy is gross to a lot of people. If you don't like White Russians, don't drink them, moron. You can find out how to spell it by looking at the mother loving bottle: The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 24, 2017 |
# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:12 |
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During the first world war, imports of Russian imports of coffee from Turkey were disrupted, so it was replaced it with Kahlua, a coffee flavored liqueur from Mexico. Straight Kahlua was called a "Black Mexican," and Kalhua with cream was called a "White Mexican". After the Russian revolution, imports from Mexico were also disrupted, forcing Russians to stretch their beloved Kahlua with locally-produced vodka, to create the modern "White Russian," made with vodka, Kahlua, and cream, and the "Black Russian", made with just vodka and Kahlua. The White Russian proved particularly popular among aristocratic counter-revolutionaries, which led to the anti-Bolshevik forces being dubbed "White Russians". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement Due to this reactionary connection, the drink was banned in Russia until the fall of the Soviet Union, but the government never truly managed to stamp out the illicit production of so-called "fools Kahlua" made from coffee-grounds, methylated spirits, and the residues of industrial beet sugar production. Most who drank this crude liquid went blind or mad, but some became visionaries, poets, and religious mystics. Either way, the gulag inevitably beckoned. Since the return of democracy, Kahlua has flooded back into the market, and the White Russian has retaken its place as Russia's undisputed national drink. No wedding, christening, or court proceeding is complete without it.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:37 |
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This is all very cool to learn. Thank you. I guess my major question is, is it Vodka or not? The posts for the most part have been fun and entertaining, Hell, even educational so far. But basically it seems like some people think it is vodka, and some don't? My question is still why would you mix vodka with vodka?
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:43 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:This is all very cool to learn. Thank you. I guess my major question is, is it Vodka or not? The posts for the most part have been fun and entertaining, Hell, even educational so far. But basically it seems like some people think it is vodka, and some don't? My question is still why would you mix vodka with vodka? It's really not a major question. I answered it for you already. Remember to drink responsibly, since you clearly have no experience drinking at all.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:44 |
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The Ferret King posted:It's really not a major question. I answered it for you already. Remember to drink responsibly, since you clearly have no experience drinking at all. Well yeah, you kinda did, but other people said it was Vodka?
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:47 |
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There's no "kinda" about it. You're going to have to find peace with that. I wish you luck.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:48 |
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Mr Enderby posted:During the first world war, imports of Russian imports of coffee from Turkey were disrupted, so it was replaced it with Kahlua, a coffee flavored liqueur from Mexico. This is complete misinformation and borderline revisionist history. The etymology of the cocktail dates from the expansion of the Russian Empire in the 16th century. In the middle ages, the Russian princedoms were tribute states under the rule of the Mongols. The traditional drink of the Mongol court was Kahula, a type of vodka made from rum and coffee. Centuries later when the "tatar yoke" had been scrambled, the Russians Empire grew to the point where they were now ruling lands inhabited by these Mongols. The Russians in these areas commonly drank Kahula with milk added to it as a way of mocking their former rulers (Mongolians are naturally allergic to dairy creamers) and over time the drinks became known as "White Russians" and "Black Russians" referring to citizens of either Slavic or Tatar origin. 'The Mexican beverage with the misspelled name is simply a cheap imitation that originated in trying to cash in on the brief 16th-century-Siberia retro craze that was popular in Mexico City in the 80's. But you know that already, you obviously work for their marketing department. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Earwicker posted:This is complete misinformation and borderline revisionist history. The etymology of the cocktail dates from the expansion of the Russian Empire in the 16th century. In the middle ages, the Russian princedoms were tribute states under the rule of the Mongols. The traditional drink of the Mongol court was Kahula, a type of vodka made from rum and coffee. Centuries later when the "tatar yoke" had been scrambled, the Russians Empire grew to the point where they were now ruling lands inhabited by these Mongols. The Russians in these areas commonly drank Kahula with milk added to it as a way of mocking their former rulers (Mongolians are naturally allergic to dairy creamers) and over time the drinks became known as "White Russians" and "Black Russians" referring to citizens of either Slavic or Tatar origin. The Mexican beverage with the misspelled name is simply a cheap imitation that originated in trying to cash in on the brief 16th-century-Siberia retro craze that was popular in Mexico City in the 80's So it is vodka?
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:52 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:So it is vodka? when you get down to the root of it, yes it is. and to answer your inevitable followup question about why you'd mix vodka with vodka, I suggest you try it yourself when you are old enough and there you will find the answer.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:54 |
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Earwicker posted:The traditional drink of the Mongol court was Kahula, a type of vodka made from rum and coffee. I think you mean, "a type of vodka made from vodka and vodka".
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:56 |
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well now thats just semantics
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 19:57 |
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The Ferret King posted:You can find out how to spell it by looking at the mother loving bottle:
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 20:45 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:So it is vodka? 7/10 I admit you got me for much longer than I should have been gullible for.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 21:02 |
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I'm not trying to "get" anyone. I was just genuinely curious.
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 22:35 |
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there is only one place this can possibly go from here how did kahlua influence tank destroyer doctrine
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# ? Jan 24, 2017 22:53 |
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Hey op, as a new drinker it is not wise to mix vodkas. You'll get a wicked hangover that way!
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 02:05 |
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Is that true? Then what exactly is a White Russian, if not two types of vodka?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 02:31 |
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Schenck v. U.S. posted:Really when you think about it, all alcohol beverages are types of vodka. I mean, sugar is basically just really small potatoes, right?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 02:35 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I mean, sugar is basically just really small potatoes, right?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 02:44 |
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I mean, sugar is basically just really small potatoes, right? Wait.... what?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 02:54 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:Wait.... what? Well you can put sugar or vodka in coffee, so clearly, somehow potatoes are sugar. It's just logic. Dissolved sugar is clear like vodka.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 03:52 |
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Starch is a polysaccharide. Sugar is a disaccharide. You stupid fucks.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 03:55 |
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Lassitude posted:Starch is a polysaccharide. Sugar is a disaccharide. You stupid fucks. That's basically what I was thinking. Still at a loss about Kaulha being or not being Vodka though.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 03:56 |
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Lassitude posted:Starch is a polysaccharide. Sugar is a disaccharide. You stupid fucks. Fruit sugar is not a disaccharide and it's made into wine, which is a grape-based vodka. Your grasp of chemistry lacks opposable thumbs. I bet you could make some kickass vodka from coffee beans if you used enough of them to make coffee vodka.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 04:06 |
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I wish I was old enough to go buy some myself and figure it out.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 04:35 |
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Rust Martialis posted:Fruit sugar is not a disaccharide and it's made into wine, which is a grape-based vodka. Your grasp of chemistry lacks opposable thumbs. "Sugar". Aka. table sugar. Aka. sucrose. Aka. a disaccharide. You would be one to start talking about fruits though, wouldn't you? Black Baby Goku posted:I wish I was old enough to go buy some myself and figure it out. Maybe try drinking some out of Rust Martialis' dick.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 06:56 |
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Lassitude posted:"Sugar". Aka. table sugar. Aka. sucrose. Aka. a disaccharide. What the gently caress is your problem dude?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 07:07 |
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Rust Martialis posted:Your grasp of chemistry lacks opposable thumbs. This is a fantastic line and I may steal it for other purposes. I really, truly hate to say this, but: thanks, BBG, () for making this thread.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 07:19 |
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Wow...this is a thread. Ferret King is the closest to being correct, except a couple quibbles that aren't really worth pointing out.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 07:27 |
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Shooting Blanks posted:Wow...this is a thread. Ferret King is the closest to being correct, except a couple quibbles that aren't really worth pointing out. What quibbles? Because honestly I like what he said but others have me pulling in the opposite direction.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 07:31 |
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Black Baby Goku posted:What quibbles? Because honestly I like what he said but others have me pulling in the opposite direction. It's spelled liqueur, and you mix use vodka not just because it increases the alcohol content but also because it is mostly flavorless. It decreases how sugary the drink will seem, without adding additional flavors that other liquors would add.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 07:58 |
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This whole thread is this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok. Good work, OP.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 09:53 |
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If you think about it, the first distilled alcoholic drinks were from fermented milk, so isn't a White Russian really just a recreation of our earliest human experience?
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 10:37 |
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Shooting Blanks posted:It's spelled liqueur... Yeah, it's pretty simply. Liquor: any vodka Liqueur: any sweetened vodka Liqeur: a sweetened vodka flavoured with coffee, such as Kahula or Kahlua. A White Russian is a liqeur plus a liquor, plus cream. It does not have any liqueur in it. So whisky (a type of vodka) plus Kahula, plus cream, is a white Russian. Wine (a sort of undistilled vodka) plus Kahlua, plus cream, is a white Russian. But Kahula plus rum (which as Wormskull helpfully pointed out at the start of this thread is vodka sweetened with molasses) plus cream, would be liqueur plus liquor, and thus it would not be a White Russian.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 10:53 |
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I like the guy who thought you're a law student because you said you're going to the bar next year. Anyways, when you think about it, all alcohol is Vodka with different amounts of water to make it stronger or weaker. Beer is really watered down vodka.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 12:59 |
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Shbobdb posted:If you think about it, the first distilled alcoholic drinks were from fermented milk, so isn't a White Russian really just a recreation of our earliest human experience? [ASK] Shbobdb how rancid his mom's tits were.
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# ? Jan 25, 2017 17:04 |
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Lassitude posted:"Sugar". Aka. table sugar. Aka. sucrose. Aka. a disaccharide. Perhapbs you should look up the ethanol biosynthetic pathway in yeast, friend? Clue: both poly-, oligo- and di-saccharides are cleaved into monosaccharides before conversion to vodkas. Glucose and fructose, in the case of your 'SUGAR'. The yeast then makes vodkas from the monosaccharides via pyruvate/acetaldehyde. Yeast is a happy vodka-maker, it will make vodka from many different forms of sugar.
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