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putting on Bose noise canceling headphones on to really listen to 4’33”
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DACK FAYDEN posted:the professor even says right there that the point of 4'33" is to hear the surrounding noise! It is only to hear birds, sorry
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Apr 24, 2024 13:28
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mark immune posted:putting on Bose noise canceling headphones on to really listen to 4’33” Should only be listened to in an anechoic chamber, imo
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Apr 24, 2024 13:29
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what if the birds on campus are also antisemitic?
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Apr 24, 2024 13:35
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theres one thing i know and that's john cage didnt write 4'33" to challenge anybody
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it's the musical equivalent of getting mad that the urinal thing is tagged as art
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gradenko_2000 posted:
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mark immune posted:putting on Bose noise canceling headphones on to really listen to 4’33”
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:a story lol he complains in that piece that no one wanted to talk to him and then totally botches the quote for one of the few students who would
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PostNouveau posted:lol he complains in that piece that no one wanted to talk to him and then totally botches the quote for one of the few students who would "Botches" implies a mistake
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2 weeks ago my families greatest enemy were ivory tower libs on elite college campuses. this week they're all like singing ivy league fight songs and saying theres never been such egregious student violence in america before.
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McWhorter is a gem. There was also this bit: quote:When I was at Rutgers in the mid-1980s, the protests were against investment in South Africa’s apartheid regime. There were similarities with the Columbia protests now: A large group of students established an encampment site right in front of the Rutgers student center on College Avenue, where dozens slept every night for several weeks. Among the largely white crowd, participation was a badge of civic commitment. There was chanting, along with the street theater inevitable, and perhaps even necessary, to effective protest; one guy even lay down in the middle of College Avenue to block traffic, taking a page from the Vietnam protests.
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Precambrian Video Games posted:McWhorter is a gem. There was also this bit: look up when nelson mandela was taken off the terrorism watch lists 2008
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DSA creep's caucus is very pro sexworker and pro small business
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quote:I thought about what would have happened if protesters were instead chanting anti-Black slogans or even something like “D.E.I. has got to die,” to the same “Sound Off” tune that “From the river to the sea” has been adapted to. They would have lasted roughly five minutes before masses of students shouted them down and drove them off the campus. Chants like that would have been condemned as a grave rupture of civilized exchange, heralded as threatening resegregation and branded as a form of violence. I’d wager that most of the student protesters against the Gaza war would view them that way. Why do so many people think that weekslong campus protests against not just the war in Gaza but Israel’s very existence are nevertheless permissible? This is one of the most insane arguments I've read in my life. The protestors are hypocrites, because they'd be against their own protest...if they had a racist message instead.
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Precambrian Video Games posted:McWhorter is a gem. There was also this bit: The difference is that decent people care about anti-semitism in the abstract while rightly no one decent gives a gently caress about the Boers
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:This is one of the most insane arguments I've read in my life. The protestors are hypocrites, because they'd be against their own protest...if they had a racist message instead.
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Halloween Jack posted:This is a totally reasonable conclusion if you profess belief in the "free marketplace of ideas" and are a rich person who sees all people who are being "rowdy" as basically the same. To someone like this it's perfectly reasonable to ban entire categories of expression because bad people might use them.
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Anyone who makes me uncomfortable is by definition a bad person and a threat to democracy.
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Precambrian Video Games posted:McWhorter is a gem. There was also this bit: McWhorter posted:I don’t recall South Africans on campus feeling personally targeted, but the bigger difference was that though the protesters sought to make their point at high volume, over a long period and sometimes even rudely, they did not seek to all but shut down campus life. Mario Savio posted:There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!
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moralists don't really have beliefs. sometimes they stumble upon one, like a child's toy left on the carpet. the toy must be put away, and the child reprimanded. i wrote that from memory ,someone make an emote for it like :eco:
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hadji murad posted:they decided to use sexy confident women instead of awkward teenagers which broadened the appeal beyond teenagers and perverts. This only really applies to the cursed "idol music" subset of pop music, though (which is hosed up in both cases, even if it might be marginally more hosed up in one than the other). And maybe even just female idols, since I definitely wouldn't say that Korean boy idol groups are somehow preferable to their Japanese counterparts.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:the professor even says right there that the point of 4'33" is to hear the surrounding noise! It's not even his field. I forget what his field is, but teaching the required core course on music is a hobby.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Yeah you’re probably right, it really bothers me because it seems to create this wrong sense of what’s happening that probably makes it harder to actually notice signs of real trafficking. If everyone is looking for wayfair shipping containers then they aren’t going to notice signs of real trafficking, which is a lot more to do with coercion and emotional manipulation, but also if all sex work is reduced to trafficking, and trafficking is understood to be this huge global conspiracy, then intense criminalization is really the only reasonable response, which ugh if only we had a thread to discuss how established media uses terminology in a misleading way under the guise of political correctness to create a toxic atmosphere of belittling anyone who disputes their framing and thus making it nearly impossible to actually discuss any of these issues respectfully since any analysis involving complexity and nuance is almost immediately reduced to petty name calling over perceived qualifications eh no big loss goons get weird discussing women and sex so its not like these are conversations worth having anyway
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hadji murad posted:they decided to use sexy confident women instead of awkward teenagers which broadened the appeal beyond teenagers and perverts. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/the-k-pop-plastic-surgery-obsession/276215/ So confident!
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StashAugustine posted:The difference is that decent people care about anti-semitism in the abstract while rightly no one decent gives a gently caress about the Boers the Boers didn't have a us-based political apparatus to push their genocidal manifest destiny agenda into the center of american politics
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comedyblissoption posted:drat i wonder why people dont like talking to journalists I can't imagine being that polite when someone implies your murdered family members had it coming Shageletic posted:I'm a big fan of Swedish indie music. The Shout Out Louds, I'm From Barcelona, The Mary Onettes, The Radio Dept, etc and that's only indie rock. They pack alot of punch culture wise imo. Full of great musicians who could pursue art as a craft their entire adult lives. friend introduced me to first aid kit a while back. i started to notice swedish groups branching out to other kinds of music and doing it better than a lot of north american groups lol
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My family’s past, and Germany’s, weighs heavily upon me. And it’s why I feel so strongly about Gaza https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/19/family-past-germany-gaza quote:Not that Uncle Walter was the only one in the family who facilitated the Third Reich and the Holocaust. My paternal grandparents were very proud to have been among the very earliest members of Hitler’s party. My maternal grandfather – Walter’s brother – was the head of a factory in Vienna that made the guidance systems for the V2 rocket, a factory that was staffed by Russian and Ukrainian slave labourers. hmm platforming people with Nazi grandparents is embarrassing but at least she is using her article to say that the Holocaust should not be used to terrorise Palestinians. I hope this doesn't suddenly veer into Nazi apologia... quote:The final – and possibly most acute – lesson, which many Germans seem to be suppressing, stems from our own extraordinary postwar experience. After the second world war, and after centuries of atrocities, the vicious circle of revenge was broken in Europe. This was a truly historic achievement from which the Nazi perpetrators benefited more than anyone else. 
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Besides being the great-niece of one of Hitler’s generals, I am also a journalist in London.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:My family’s past, and Germany’s, weighs heavily upon me. And it’s why I feel so strongly about Gaza To this woman I say - it isn't too late to make the world a more just place
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Jazerus posted:Besides being the great-niece of one of Hitler’s generals, I am also a journalist in London.
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The Oldest Man posted:the Boers didn't have a us-based political apparatus to push their genocidal manifest destiny agenda into the center of american politics They did Thd ADL
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Jazerus posted:Besides being the great-niece of one of Hitler’s generals, I am also a journalist in London.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:My family’s past, and Germany’s, weighs heavily upon me. And it’s why I feel so strongly about Gaza i just dont understand how pardoning my whole nazi-rear end family and letting them accumulate a shitload of money and political influence could be related to our state support for a nazi regime
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The Nazi's were bad, but their* money? Their* money is so good.
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Orange Devil posted:The Nazi's were bad, but their* money? Their* money is so good. No the nazis were also good, see, it was really a move in the name of peace for all to let them take over the government and business after they lost the war
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gradenko_2000 posted:
the thing about kpop is that its literally just rebranded jpop japan cant for various cultural reasons (mostly due to their many crimes against humanity) easily export their cultural output with anime being a notable exception because its presentation makes it easy to obscure its original source and since japan has a large domestic market it doesnt really need exports to begin with anyway south korea does need exports because its a much smaller market while also being large enough they can draw from a decent talent pool where you get kpop is you had these first gen executives study the japanese music market and try to recreate their system which they did fairly successfully now to be clear kpop isnt perfectly identical to jpop but if you listen to both and look at their production methods its pretty obvious that at bare minimum theyre close cousins and i mean hell all the way back to the occupation era you have gisaeng music being so popular in japan that it kind of results in the genocide of gisaeng musical culture entirely post liberation because of how closely it was associated with colonialism north korea by contrast isnt allowed to compete in the international market even for real products that can be objectively measured never mind intangible bullshit like popular culture and i can guarantee you none of the dipshits who write articles like this has even seen actual north korean popular culture because its like academic research level digging you have to do to even find any when i was studying the topic at the korean film archive i had to give them my passport to watch their old vhs tapes and i was only allowed to see one a day they werent even properly listed in the database either and after i left they moved them to a different facility entirely i presume because they were scared someone might watch them and decide that communism is good north korean magic shows are pretty cool btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtgZRT9WhbA
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sweden explicitly attempted to create a musical culture that could stand up to American influence, decades ago, through major investments in the education system in this area. This produced Max Martin, who has arguably been the biggest force in American pop music since 1998. One of his creations is modern Taylor Swift. it really pisses me off btw that this is like the first thing most people will say about kpop policywise but noone ever says it about sweden in the same vein the way that koreans are stereotyped as a naturally plastic surgery loving people when noone says that about say argentina when they have a nearly identical rate is super frustrating
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