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I immediately imagine his little robot sitting at a kotatsu snipping at a runner and kinda cried all over again
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Laughed about it in the shonen thread, but still love the Kagurabachi author just talking about his Dragon Ball Heroes addiction, doesn't even mention Toriyama at all lol
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Some Numbers posted:I wonder how many slave laborers died/will die to make that. Probably as many that animated this show.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Laughed about it in the shonen thread, but still love the Kagurabachi author just talking about his Dragon Ball Heroes addiction, doesn't even mention Toriyama at all lol It's also a fun game of "spot the 24 year old"
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Electric Phantasm posted:Laughed about it in the shonen thread, but still love the Kagurabachi author just talking about his Dragon Ball Heroes addiction, doesn't even mention Toriyama at all lol
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Electric Phantasm posted:Laughed about it in the shonen thread, but still love the Kagurabachi author just talking about his Dragon Ball Heroes addiction, doesn't even mention Toriyama at all lol based
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Mar 23, 2024 02:00
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the real hosed up thing is that the kagurabachi guy is in the age range where kai was probably his first exposure to the main series
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Don't say that
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For the record I do sincerely love Kagurabachi guy's comment. It sticks out in a good way against everyone else's comments.
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Digging back into the thread a bit, but...A Fancy Hat posted:I'm reading the manga now and it's especially weird because they apparently did the Dragonball Z chapters before they went back and did Dragonball (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong). They also started the manga a few months before Toonami started running the anime and people could actually watch it at a reasonable time, so I'm betting a lot of localization aspects had yet to be set in stone.
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Could Demon King Piccolo theoretically have unlocked Orange with his dragon ball wish? Or do you think the dragon has to consider you a bro to throw in the "extra"? This is assuming he somehow knows to wish for unlocked potential in the first place I guess.
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Mar 23, 2024 20:43
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Could Devil Man have defeated Kid Buu
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Nah I figure he was a pretty low level human-centric devil. He isn't strong enough, and plus the devilmite beam targeted an opponent's heart and buu probably doesn't even have one.
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Mar 23, 2024 20:51
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Waffleman_ posted:Could Devil Man have defeated Kid Buu He would be able to explode Buu but Buu can just reform from that.
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Mar 23, 2024 20:58
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feetnotes posted:Could Demon King Piccolo theoretically have unlocked Orange with his dragon ball wish? Or do you think the dragon has to consider you a bro to throw in the "extra"? The way Shenron mentioned throwing in something extra, it seemed like a bonus for being a bro, yeah. Demon King Piccolo probably wouldn't have been given Orange.
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also devilman explodes the evil in you but kid buu is a creature driven by pure id and instinct. like frieza, demon king piccolo, cell, super buu, they're all cognizant that their actions are evil and take pleasure in that. kid buu has a sadistic element to his personality but it feels more like how a gorilla or monkey might smile at the pain of other primates, it doesnt feel like there's conscious malice.
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Mar 23, 2024 22:39
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feetnotes posted:Could Demon King Piccolo theoretically have unlocked Orange with his dragon ball wish? Or do you think the dragon has to consider you a bro to throw in the "extra"? For Orange to matter Demon King Piccolo would need to be in prime fighting form so it would have taken a second wish.
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I feel like Orange is like the result of a ton of different factors and not something common. Piccolo had to split himself in half, die, reincarnate, train insanely hard, fuse with another dude, then fuse with himself, then train insanely hard, and then get his potential unlocked Guru-style in addition to a favor from a dragon to pull it off. King Piccolo probably just couldn't.
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ImpAtom posted:I feel like Orange is like the result of a ton of different factors and not something common. Piccolo had to split himself in half, die, reincarnate, train insanely hard, fuse with another dude, then fuse with himself, then train insanely hard, and then get his potential unlocked Guru-style in addition to a favor from a dragon to pull it off. King Piccolo probably just couldn't. We're in total agreement that the bonus from the dragon is critical here, though, right? Like, even if Demon King Piccolo was totally capable in every other way, he wouldn't have access to Orange because Shenron just wouldn't give it to him. This raises another question. Shenron's been powered up since the start of Z. Would pre-Z Shenron even be capable of giving Orange to Piccolo?
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King of Solomon posted:We're in total agreement that the bonus from the dragon is critical here, though, right? Like, even if Demon King Piccolo was totally capable in every other way, he wouldn't have access to Orange because Shenron just wouldn't give it to him. It's hard to say if Orange is something he could ever have unlocked or not because the concept of 'potential unleashed' is so nebulous. Could Gohan have unlocked Beast without the combo of Guru Potential Unleashed and Old Kai Potential Unleashed? The way he got it? Yeah, that's all dragon. It's not clear if that means it can only come from the dragon or not. If Piccolo got his potential unlocked by Guru maybe it would be a different story or maybe not.
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My money's on Devilman making the evil within Kid Buu swell and explode results in the solar system being destroyed.
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Majin Buu and Kid Buu are clear Devilman counters. He could explode Super Buu though.
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Devilman (Toriyama) vs Devilman (Nagai)
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King of Solomon posted:The way Shenron mentioned throwing in something extra, it seemed like a bonus for being a bro, yeah. Demon King Piccolo probably wouldn't have been given Orange. Piccolo cashing in on Bulma’s Redeem 10 wishes, get one free card
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There is that as well. The dragon being so grateful at the chance to grant a meaningful wish he threw in something extra for free.
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Endorph posted:also devilman explodes the evil in you but kid buu is a creature driven by pure id and instinct. like frieza, demon king piccolo, cell, super buu, they're all cognizant that their actions are evil and take pleasure in that. kid buu has a sadistic element to his personality but it feels more like how a gorilla or monkey might smile at the pain of other primates, it doesnt feel like there's conscious malice.
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P funny Shenron did give him that bonus considering Piccolo killed him that one time. Also maybe pre-ToP was a good time to unlock your potential but I forget what the status of the Dragon Balls were at that point, being inert or not.
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Waffleman_ posted:Could Devil Man have defeated Kid Buu devil man could defeat frieza but he could not defeat anyone that can regenerate. topic locked
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Majin Buu and Kid Buu are clear Devilman counters. He could explode Super Buu though. Does Buu even have a heart to explode.
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I like how in Kakarot you can resurrect characters like Raditz and Nappa with the dragon balls. Gohan asks Nappa to be his training partner, and tells resurrected Dodoria to be a good guy.
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dodoria just needed a positive role model
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Ytlaya posted:I like how in Kakarot you can resurrect characters like Raditz and Nappa with the dragon balls. Gohan asks Nappa to be his training partner, and tells resurrected Dodoria to be a good guy. I dislike most of Kakarot's original writing but I do like this a lot. It feels consistent with the series' more idealistic themes, that anyone can become a better person if given the right chances and circumstances to, even if it may take years to do so... ...Except Freeza, who proceeds to pull Resurrection "F" anyways.
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frieza is just a hater and i respect that
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Mr.Acula posted:P funny Shenron did give him that bonus considering Piccolo killed him that one time. Shenlong died and was put back together by Kami and then the Dragonballs went inert when the fusion happened, so Dende had to breathe new life into them. Who knows what this Shenlong even remembers. Also, he's probably more grateful to Kami creating him than he is mad at Piccolo for killing him.
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It's Piccolo's dad who killed Shenron, it's fine.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:It's Piccolo's dad who killed Shenron, it's fine. Yeah, the whole point of post-Raditz Piccolo is that he started becoming less and less like his dad.
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From what I remember about Super Hero, Dende specifically has to upgrade Shenron to be able to unlock Piccolo's potential. They also consistently ask him to unlock his potential "like Grand Elder Guru", not Old Kai's technique. Considering they remember Gohan's Ultimate form from the Old Kai, my personal headcanon is that Piccolo's first new form is what he'd get if Guru unlocked his potential. His second, Orange Piccolo, is what he'd get if Guru's ritual was refined to the level of Old Kai's, and Shenron just tossed that in for funsies. It's just hard for me to imagine Shenron somehow pulled that much extra power out of nowhere and tossed it in as a "bonus", though. Him just going above and beyond on the unlocking wish makes the most sense to me.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I dislike most of Kakarot's original writing but I do like this a lot. It feels consistent with the series' more idealistic themes, that anyone can become a better person if given the right chances and circumstances to, even if it may take years to do so... Freeza has become a better person in numerous ways, really. He's still an evil dickhead but he's settled down into taking greater satisfaction from trolling and one-upping Goku than he does from beating/killing him. At this point he's chiller than Zamasu was, at the very least.
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Kanos posted:Freeza has become a better person in numerous ways, really. He's still an evil dickhead but he's settled down into taking greater satisfaction from trolling and one-upping Goku than he does from beating/killing him. At this point he's chiller than Zamasu was, at the very least. He is still invading planets. He just has decided not to gently caress with Earth.
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ImpAtom posted:He is still invading planets. He just has decided not to gently caress with Earth. The longest journey begins with a single step.
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