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Plus she fought to make Gohan a productive member of society, therefore she is the greatest hero.
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Lol if you think any Dragonball arc is flawless storytelling.
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Sep 20, 2017 05:47
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Zamasu is more interesting a villain than anything in Z and original. Because they are all rather boring. As DB and Z are a mess when it comes to storytelling.
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Sep 20, 2017 06:09
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Blue Star posted:Obviously this is all up to opinion but i dont see whats so unique or cool about Zamasu. Oh another genocidal maniac, how original. The idea of a god that thinks no mortal is worthy can be interesting but not inherently more so than an alien warlord that thought he was unbeatable or a bio-engineered dude that is obsessed with being perfect and testing his strength. All of these can be boring as poo poo. But frankly Zamasu was ruined once he stole Goku's body and became another Tullece. Another evil Goku? Come the gently caress on. But Im ultimately whining about a punchman cartoon/comic book so jokes on me, I guess. Yes having an actual clear motivation is genuinely impressive for DB. Most have either the insanely generic rule everything or ?????
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Sep 20, 2017 06:31
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Cells motivation is insanely inferred and I mentioned Frieza and his boring rear end motivation
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Sep 20, 2017 06:44
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Blue Star posted:Okay. You obviously love Zamasu and thats okay I don't actually love him, he is just clearing a fairly low bar. I love the goofy poo poo he does tho.
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Sep 20, 2017 07:03
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Listing it out like that man DB is dumb.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:17
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Honestly they just shouldn't have brought Frieza back to begin with and let Frost do what Frieza is gonna do. It's not like you would be missing much.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:21
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Andrast posted:Yeah it's great It is but that is kind of the opposite of what that post is trying to accomplish.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:22
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I assume defending your idea that DB is near flawless storytelling instead of a big dumb cartoon.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:25
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Blue Star posted:Well I'm sorry it went over your head but I dont feel like spelling it all out. Sorry. I literally just posted why you did it why would I need you to spell it out. I know you have moved the goalposts a bit but I don't think you have fundamentally changed the game.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:27
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If you are radically and arbitrarily redefining high art then sure.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:42
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Blue Star posted:I feel bad for you, friend. I feel bad for you to, needing to twist yourself to convince yourself that a story must have good storytelling to enjoy it, sad.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:48
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ImpAtom posted:Also Cui! You can't forget Cui! Cui is high art
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Sep 20, 2017 19:20
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Blue Star posted:Dragon Ball and Z is good storytelling. DB Super is not. DB SUper is bad and almost every new character introduced in Super has been bad. Sorry dude. Lol no
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Sep 20, 2017 19:53
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Wait outside of spirit bombs (and I think only the last one) when have people given energy? That doesn't happen in DB outside SS Goku V Frieza
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Sep 20, 2017 21:26
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Broly? Nah it basically is the perfect example of why the movies tend to be bad.
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Sep 20, 2017 21:34
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Cell struggles because he starts out with a goal but once he reached it he has nothing else to do. So they slap a generic goal on him and shrug.
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Sep 20, 2017 21:37
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Blue Star posted:Cell is bad but no worse than Zamasu. This is just sad now
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Sep 21, 2017 01:31
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Plus the hand motions being different is a pretty big deal for a fighting manga that likes to pretend it has some basis in martial arts.
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Sep 21, 2017 01:34
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Kild posted:Maybe the early parts of Naruto but by the end you had poo poo like Madara and Zetsu and Eyehax vs Eyehax and literal immortal zombies. To be fair only the Madara fight in those examples involved no selling.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:37
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Having characters no sell weaker characters just makes them feel like pointless time wasters. Which perfectly describes half the Broly movie
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Sep 21, 2017 17:41
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Kild posted:You think sacrificing eyes to literally go 'nuh-uh' isn't no selling? No? Why would it be.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:29
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Only the very last spirit bomb required cooperation, he can just suck the surrounding planets dry.
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Sep 24, 2017 05:57
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Blockhouse posted:That's directly brought up in the chapter I did read the manga. That um, doesn't happen, he wins through A weird bullshit skill that they all should have. That hell loving Goku should have.
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Sep 25, 2017 17:51
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Blockhouse posted:He doesn't even win. The fight's still going on. He wins the part were everyone rushes him, until the clown decides to be an rear end in a top hat and gank one of the others turning it into a proper battle royale. Which has no tension considering Beerus took on them all with rather little effort. It's insanely dumb.
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Sep 25, 2017 17:55
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Rudoku posted:A twin brother that looks enough like him to get hit in the heat of battle? Nah, he can sense and react to attacks he can't see instinctively. Yes this is a skill only Beerus has apparently
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Sep 25, 2017 17:57
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Josuke Higashikata posted:it's the skill Whis has been telling Goku and Vegeta about so no, it's not. No they make a point about it, the other Gods apparently can't do it or there is no reason for Whis to bring it up as something special.
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Sep 25, 2017 18:15
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RBX posted:Calling everything but the final battles filler is a dumb, reductive way of thinking. Its not the animes fault you hate fun. To be fair you have to win to matter is a problem most fans of DBZ have
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Sep 25, 2017 19:14
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Yeah they kind of pulled back hard once the tourney began. Which is a shame as it's a lot less interesting.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:57
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tbp posted:its consistent Just not from scene to scene
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Sep 25, 2017 21:53
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tbp posted:nothing shown contradicts the idea that zeno was going to delete the universes and goku proposing the ToP saved 1 universe and billions of lives In that one scene were they say it sure, which is why it's consistent, on a scene by scene basis.
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Sep 25, 2017 21:55
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tbp posted:its consistent throughout all of super As long as you judge scenes individually sure
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Sep 25, 2017 21:57
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tbp posted:i dont follow what you mean. like its a consistent storyline w/o plot holes. u keep saying individually the collective is consistent too If you judge it individually sure
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Sep 25, 2017 22:00
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Nah that is what happened they attacked him and he rather effortlessly beat them. He didn't eliminate them but it doesn't matter.
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Sep 26, 2017 03:27
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Also his energy ball was not no sold, one of the gods got a barrier up and the others mentioned how if he hadn't they would have been crushed.
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Sep 26, 2017 03:34
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Cease to Hope posted:cell ranks really low in those shonen jump character popularity polls He was asking for the reason why, not why do you think that.
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Sep 28, 2017 04:56
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They are doing Buu, they talk about who they have cast as teen Gohan all the time. They are just willing to put it on the back burner because they have legit turned teamfourstar into a company with an office and poo poo somehow and want to expand quickly.
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Sep 29, 2017 06:01
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Man I can't think of a way in which 21 isn't either boring or really stupid.
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Sep 29, 2017 06:32
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Spiderdrake posted:I mean if you're being pessimistic what's a better way to keep your patreon dollars flowing, implying you have content laid out for years and years or admitting you're not sure? Admitting you're going to do like, what's their next project? Their patron money seems heavily focused around their gaming poo poo. Plus after Buu they are done so there is no reason not to finish.
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