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Mel Mudkiper posted:I was pointing out a bunch of people discovered corpus analysis software what was snarky about it That's... actually funny now that you explained it. Carry on.
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# ? May 15, 2024 18:58 |
im gay (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Aug 27, 2017 20:19 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What does that have to do with anything? Was going by this definition, haven't heard it used for comparative software but I guess I'm out of the loop
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# ? Aug 27, 2017 20:27 |
After an indeterminate amount of time on small talk and business conversations, Zade settles in for a nap in one of the theatre seats. She's quickly shaken awake by Cam.quote:“It looked like you met everyone that works here today. The line to say hello to you after your performance resembled an autograph signing by a boy band. I don’t really know what the latest one is, but Backstreet, Five Directions, One Second of Winter, 98 Celsius, O-city, NSYNC Boys or Old Kids on a Curb or something like that.” Why thank you, Zade, for taking the time to carefully explain how Cam is making a joke and not actually a complete dingbat. Their pointless dialogue is interrupted by Mac, who still looks a bit pissed at Zade for her unplanned stunt. After sending Cam on his way, he tells Zade that he wants to schedule a crew call with her after the contract is signed, so everyone can go over her trick (Zade claims that calling it a "trick" instead of an "illusion" is meant as an insult) and its safety features to make sure it can be properly incorporated in the show. You know, like any normal people would. After bragging about how her towering height of 5'9 lets her look him in the eye, Zade pointedly tells Mac that she has no intention of revealing her secrets to anyone. Mac reacts with an incredibly reasonable and realistic "It's my responsibility if you get hurt so stop being a bitch", but Zade gets back in her nearly-punching mood like she was with her mom. quote:“I understand this is your job and all, but I don’t think you’re listening to me,” I hissed. I tapped his chest with my finger and he jolted a bit at my touch. He looked at me like I was speaking some kind of foreign language. “I’m not listening? Lady, you need your ears cleaned,” he snarled back. He turned around to walk away, as if that was the end of our conversation. If he was trying to piss me off more, it was working. Zade continues to be the absolute worst person at any given time. Mac has Riley call Charles (who apparently goes by CS as his nickname here) for backup, and Zade gets even more pissed. quote:I was back in his face, stern and loud. “Look. It was part of my deal, end of story. I didn’t know Joffrey Baratheon worked here now.” I wondered if Mac even watched Game of Thrones, but hoped he would get my reference to the child king from the first two seasons who acted like, well, a child given power he didn’t deserve or know how to handle. Again, Zade/Lani is convinced that the audience for her novels is just as stupid as she is. Before she can stomp off, Charles Spellman returns. Amazingly, he actually defends Zade keeping her trick a secret and brushes off Mac and Zeb's concerns about OSHA regulations. Charles comes up with a compromise: Zade will tell him and only him how she does the trick. I'm really hoping this ends with a reveal that Spellman is really a spellcaster himself who's in on the secret, because otherwise this whole charade somehow becomes less plausible. Just for good measure as he walks away, Charles offhandedly mentions they're cutting the Dance Illusion (Sofia's main act) to fit in Zade, which rightfully pisses her off to no end despite his assurances that they'll come up with something new for her. Zade and Charles enter his office alone, and he asks how she performs her trick. We don't even get a description of his office, let alone an explanation for what's going on, before the next chapter abruptly cuts in a week later. Human Resources has finished processing Zade's paperwork, with Zade being allowed to stay at the Wynn until she gets an apartment. Zade is getting fitted for her costume in the wardrobe department by Lillianne, who goes by Lil. Yes, another three-letter name! quote:She talked a lot, and fast, while smacking her gum. She continued on about how she only thought her great aunt called her by her full name because her name was Anne and thought that somehow she was kind of named after her. I quickly learned more about Lil than I know about most people I’ve known for my half my life. She looked like the stereotypical Goth: black hair, black nails, and more than her fair share of tattoos. I’m pretty sure that if you saw her on the street the last thing you would think is that she made clothes for a living. Nice to see Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way has returned from Lani's prior work for a cameo! Also, I'm pretty sure a hell of a lot of people would predict that the goth girl covered in tattoos makes clothes for a living; just about every tattooed goth girl I've met has done hair, clothes, makeup, and/or tattoos. Lil takes measurements of every part of Zade's body to put on file so they can make all the costumes she wants without needing constant fitting sessions. The ensuing dialogue is incredibly boring. A sample: quote:“I love your hair by the way! All the colors look super fab! Do you go to a salon?” Lil grabbed chunks of my hair, looking at the different colors before I had a chance to respond. Zade continues making small talk, like pointing out one of Lil's dresses (a black getup with multicolored ruffled tulle underskirts and a tall angular collar, which sounds frankly hideous) to compliment it. Suddenly, the text is broken up by what looks like a huge border resembling the phases of the moon and the text switches to italics. What's going on? You see, Lani is really obvious about her desire to just make a screenplay in novel form. But how do you show anything that's not from the protagonist's point of view? I mean, it's a first person novel that's written as if Zade herself is writing the book for you. The answer Lani comes up with is to just break every rule she needs to! The borders and italics mark a shift into third person narration, describing things Zade isn't actually experiencing. quote:Mac slowly walked up to the door of the fitting room. He could hear Lil chattering away—mostly gossip, as usual. He raised his hand to knock on the door, but as he clutched his fingers together and balled up his hand to make a fist the door opened just a crack. It hadn’t been closed all the way. Mac could see Zade standing in nothing but her lace underwear and bra as Lil pulled a measuring tape around her narrow waist. Both pieces were black and nude with lace trim and the panties, which were a high-waisted cut, framed Zade’s body nicely and showed off her curves and small waist. Lil made a note in her pad of the measurement and moved down to Zade’s hips. Under the bright lights, Zade’s skin looked porcelain white. She was beautiful. She wasn’t supermodel hot but there was something about her that just made her stand out. Mac couldn’t quite put his finger on it but there was something there. Mac's perving is suddenly interrupted by Tad sneaking up on him. Mortified at being caught, they sneak away from the door to talk in private. Tad tries to joke about it, but Mac is embarrassed and threatens to murder both of them if he doesn't keep quiet. I'm really hoping our second love interest is a decent guy, because right now it's the story of two assholes yelling at each other. We shift back to first person as Zade finishes up. quote:I’m pretty sure every inch of me had been measured—and I knew Lil’s entire life story. I could practically tell you anything about her, including what she had eaten for breakfast—and, no, I’m not even joking about that one. (She had had scrambled eggs with cheese, turkey bacon, whole-grain toast, and some homemade mango jelly. She had gotten all the ingredients fresh from a local farmer’s market—which she recommended I go and try.) Found the second love interest. This is Jackson Milsap, the show's bandleader! He has perfectly tousled dark chestnut hair, dimples, and a guitar slung on his back. The two immediately start flirting as Zade mentions she also plays guitar, which Jackson says is "hot for sure". Jackson offers to jam with her sometime since he's got his own band outside of the show, and he offers to loan her his acoustic guitar from his dressing room. Jackson is here because he volunteered to give the new girl the tour of the Wynn. quote:He put out his arm like guys do on dates sometimes when they want to be sweet. It’s a weakness for me when a guy does it; it makes me feel special somehow. Maybe because it’s always done to princesses and debutantes in old movies, and it just feels so romantic. “Shall we?” he cooed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUhLt1NchOU I hate this book.
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Kinda surprised you passed over the fact that people are talking about boy bands 15 years too late because the author managed them
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:38 |
Mel Mudkiper posted:Kinda surprised you passed over the fact that people are talking about boy bands 15 years too late because the author managed them I was wondering what bands Lani has managed, so I did some more Googling and found her LinkedIn. She actually lists her job as "Girl Wonder & Swiss Army Knife" in terms of management for UD Factory in Las Vegas, but I can't find any specific mention of bands she managed beyond Blues Traveler, 100 Monkeys, and Plain White T's. I'm not sure if she ever managed a band for longer than about 2 years. She also lists the film adaptation of Handbook for Mortals as having a funding of $15 million. For comparison, the first Twilight film had a budget of $37 million and didn't exactly have any elaborate teleportation stunts with the amount of CGI she clearly wants in Zade's magic. $15 million is on the budgetary level of Slumdog Millionaire, and is an even lower budget than The Conjuring.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:52 |
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She's insane.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 14:55 |
iospace posted:She's insane. Like I said, she reminds me a lot of that woman I tried to do theatre with this year. Both of them are utterly divorced from reality, have little idea of the costs involved in doing business (Lani thinks $15 million will get her a big budget summer blockbuster with a ton of CGI, crazy New Orleans lady thought it would be a breeze to get a warehouse with a big set within a year and set up a show without a script), and dismiss any kind of criticism or attempts to stop their poor business practices as just trying to trip up their success out of jealousy.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:10 |
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There is something inspiring about the combination of ambition and incompetence
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:14 |
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iospace posted:She's insane. Please don't insult people with mental illness by lumping them in with her.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:29 |
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Here's my highly controversial opinion: This book is really bad
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:30 |
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chitoryu12 posted:she managed beyond Blues Traveler, 100 Monkeys, and Plain White T's. Plain White T's. drat, those dudes are from my area. Two of the guys used to come out to a local bar I hang in. Not promising anything since I haven't them in years, but if either of them come in I'll definitely see if I can get them to dish on Lani.
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Proteus Jones posted:Plain White T's. drat, those dudes are from my area. Two of the guys used to come out to a local bar I hang in. Not promising anything since I haven't them in years, but if either of them come in I'll definitely see if I can get them to dish on Lani. I just realized that you have the perfect avatar for this thread.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:43 |
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You know, I just reflected on how absurd it is that the setting of a YA novel is a las vegas magic show
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 15:55 |
Mel Mudkiper posted:You know, I just reflected on how absurd it is that the setting of a YA novel is a las vegas magic show Lani's from Vegas, so write what you know?
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 16:29 |
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I think it's more "Vegas Magic Shows" are more adult oriented than not.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 16:30 |
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Really it was more "What teenage girl fantasizes about being in a magic show?"
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 16:39 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Really it was more "What teenage girl fantasizes about being in a magic show?" Zade is a 33 year old teenager. Because magic.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 16:57 |
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Kurieg posted:Zade is a 33 year old teenager. Because magic. I meant the audience of the book/movie why would a teenage girl want to spend her time reading/watching about a las vegas magic show
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Not sure if intentional, but you actually linked a different Richard Marx song there. They're both godawful, though.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 18:33 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I meant the audience of the book/movie this thing has a target audience of 1, and she's for sure not a teenager
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 18:34 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Like I said, she reminds me a lot of that woman I tried to do theatre with this year. Both of them are utterly divorced from reality, have little idea of the costs involved in doing business (Lani thinks $15 million will get her a big budget summer blockbuster with a ton of CGI, crazy New Orleans lady thought it would be a breeze to get a warehouse with a big set within a year and set up a show without a script), and dismiss any kind of criticism or attempts to stop their poor business practices as just trying to trip up their success out of jealousy. I hadn't even considered that the movie would take a huge amount of CGI, but that makes her quote that the movie will "debut in 2018" even dumber.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 18:37 |
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chitoryu12 posted:(Zade claims that calling it a "trick" instead of an "illusion" is meant as an insult) Well, yeah. Tricks are what a whore does for money. Or candy.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:07 |
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Besesoth posted:Well, yeah. Tricks are what a whore does for money. Why those don't sound like they are for kids at all!
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:09 |
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quote:She was beautiful. She wasn’t supermodel hot but there was something about her that just made her stand out. lol
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:17 |
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"NO! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND I'M BEAUTIFUL! THAT'S WHY ALL THESE MEN ARE TRYING TO HAVE SEX WITH ME, I MEAN ZADE, IN THIS BOOK THAT I WROTE!"
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:25 |
anilEhilated posted:Not sure if intentional, but you actually linked a different Richard Marx song there. They're both godawful, though. I had no idea which song she intended because I don't listen to Richard Marx, so I just Googled the phrase.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:27 |
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On the one hand, Vegas stage shows to tend to try to be a little bit sexy. On the other hand, that's irrelevant because no teenager in existence cares about Vegas stage shows and especially Vegas magic shows. On the other other hand, as someone has already pointed out, there isn't a target audience for this book because nobody was actually supposed to buy or read it except the publisher and whoever makes the movie.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:34 |
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Nakar posted:On the one hand, Vegas stage shows to tend to try to be a little bit sexy. Yeah but I feel like if your goal is to make a movie to be famous you would make a story capable of being famous
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:35 |
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On but who's the target audience of the movie?
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:36 |
Ride The Gravitron posted:On but who's the target audience of the movie? Nakar posted:the publisher and whoever makes the movie.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 19:38 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah but I feel like if your goal is to make a movie to be famous you would make a story capable of being famous Unless you are Uwe Boll and you are just trying to utilize a (now closed) German tax loophole.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 20:01 |
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It's kind of a fascinating misunderstanding of cause and effect. She seemed to think "popular movies are made from bestselling books" and assumed as long as the book was best selling the movie would be popular. She never apparently connected that the book is best selling because it is in some way interesting, which in turn makes the movie interesting
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 20:16 |
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Everything posted reads like first draft/only draft and it never saw an editor.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 20:44 |
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It's cool the way she overexplains every joke and reference, it really makes me feel like I'm part of this magical world of popular music and TV programs.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 20:50 |
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I've never read a book with so much brand-name-dropping. Is that normal for YA books, these days? Or any days? (I basically skipped all the kids/YA books and went from Dr Seuss to Tarzan in one jump, but I did go back and read some Nancy Drew and Bunnicula.)
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 21:35 |
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GoodyTwoShoes posted:I've never read a book with so much brand-name-dropping. Is that normal for YA books, these days? It's not really YA (though it's not far off), but Ready Player One was thick with that sort of thing.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 22:38 |
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anilEhilated posted:Plus the author and scriptwriter who also plays the lead character and probably provides the catering. I kind of hope Lani ends up doing the film as a zero-budget production with some friends and family, as did Gloria Tesch: http://conjugalfelicity.com/maradonia-the-shadow-empire/ It'd be hilarious.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 23:27 |
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GoodyTwoShoes posted:I've never read a book with so much brand-name-dropping. Is that normal for YA books, these days? Or any days? (I basically skipped all the kids/YA books and went from Dr Seuss to Tarzan in one jump, but I did go back and read some Nancy Drew and Bunnicula.) 50 Shades, which is adult fanfic of a YA series, LOVES brand-name dropping. Then again, so did Twilight when it came to cars. I think it's far less a YA thing and more a consumer porn thing. I think it's extremely telling when an author focuses on what their characters own as a way to communicate how "sophisticated" they're meant to be, because if it's expensive it MUST be better, right?
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Ride The Gravitron posted:On but who's the target audience of the movie? Herself. Lani Sarem began from the position of "I want to be the star of a blockbuster film adaptation like Twilight or The Hunger Games" and operated from that point. Her IMDB page shows repeated attempts to get into film and TV but never rising above a minor appearance in a B-movie. If she wanted the book to be popular, she wouldn't have tried to fake a bestseller list position. With her incredible ability to delude herself, she thought she had a foolproof plot to fake a bestselling young adult novel and create her dream role. The movie could bomb and make back $2,000 and she'd still consider it a success for her career.
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# ? Aug 28, 2017 23:43 |