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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

AnimeIsTrash posted:

there was a guy in yospos who’s company was opening an office in shanghai and he was worried that the shanghai employees were going to steal all their ip

lol

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
all my ips gone

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

saw a video online of an american businessman stepping out of the shenzhen international airport only to be stripped of all his IPs in seconds.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

IP Man

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021


:dmca:

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

I WANT TO STEAL TEN

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007



China Has Crossed Biden’s Red Line on Ukraine
The president warned Xi not to provide ‘material support’ to Russia. Will there be consequences?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0vlVm1PkU

Chang'e-6 lunches for the far side of the Moon in 40 minutes.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
May it be delicious

Mandel Brotset
Jan 1, 2024

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

OhFunny posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0vlVm1PkU

Chang'e-6 lunches for the far side of the Moon in 40 minutes.

dudes rock

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

the situation is excellent

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Is the Biden redline like the Obama redline?

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001
As Nancy Pelosi taught us, red lines don't mean anything.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

Pretty cool video for the Chang'e 6 mission.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LJ4m1J7Fe

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Dante80 posted:

Pretty cool video for the Chang'e 6 mission.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LJ4m1J7Fe

Okay but I still think chang e hosed houyi over harder than any mythological spouse.

Motherfucker saved all of humanity, climbed literally every mountain to make her a goddess, and she took both of their loving pills and left him to die.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Chang'e...is this touhou lore?
Will there be Tewi?

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

ikanreed posted:

Okay but I still think chang e hosed houyi over harder than any mythological spouse.

Motherfucker saved all of humanity, climbed literally every mountain to make her a goddess, and she took both of their loving pills and left him to die.

Hercules’ wife killed him in a way so agonizing he had to be mercy killed but it’s hard to say he didn’t have it coming

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

FrancisFukyomama posted:

Hercules’ wife killed him in a way so agonizing he had to be mercy killed but it’s hard to say he didn’t have it coming

If you kill one spouse, your next one gets to kill you. It's the rules.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

FrancisFukyomama posted:

Hercules’ wife killed him in a way so agonizing he had to be mercy killed but it’s hard to say he didn’t have it coming

Didn't Nessus lie to Deianeira about it being a magic love shirt and not a poison (since Hercules whacked Nessus)?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

ikanreed posted:

Okay but I still think chang e hosed houyi over harder than any mythological spouse.

Motherfucker saved all of humanity, climbed literally every mountain to make her a goddess, and she took both of their loving pills and left him to die.

#girlboss

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Horseshoe theory posted:

Didn't Nessus lie to Deianeira about it being a magic love shirt and not a poison (since Hercules whacked Nessus)?

Yup

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/pinaysipatricia/status/1786940691647771063

China Publicizes 2016 Deal With The Philippines

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For the first time, China has publicized what it claims is an unwritten 2016 agreement with the Philippines over access to South China Sea islands.

The move threatens to further raise tensions in the disputed waterway, through which much of the world’s trade passes and which China claims virtually in its entirety.

A statement from the Chinese embassy in Manila said the “temporary special arrangement” agreed to during a visit to Beijing by former president Rodrigo Duterte allowed small-scale fishing around the islands but restricted access by military, coast guard and other official planes and ships to the 12-nautical mile (22-kilometer) limit of territorial waters.

The Philippines respected the agreement over the past seven years but has since reneged on it to “fulfill its own political agenda,” forcing China to take action, the statement said.

“This is the basic reason for the ceaseless disputes at sea between China and the Philippines over the past year and more,” said the statement posted to the embassy’s website Thursday, referring to the actions of the Philippines.

President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. and Duterte have denied forging any agreements that would have supposedly surrendered Philippine sovereignty or sovereign rights to China. Any such action, if proven, would be an impeachable offense under the country’s 1987 Constitution.

However, after his visit to Beijing, Duterte hinted at such an agreement without offering details, said Collin Koh, senior fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies based in Nanyang Technological University, Singapore and an expert on naval affairs in the Indo-Pacific region, particularly Southeast Asia.

“He boasted then that he not only got Chinese investment and trade pledges, but also that he secured Philippine fishermen access to Scarborough Shoal,” Koh said, referring to one of the maritime features in dispute, locally known as Panatag Shoal or Bajo de Masinloc.

Beijing’s deliberate wording in the statement “is noteworthy in showing that Beijing has no official document to prove its case and thus could only rely mainly on Duterte’s verbal claim,” Koh said.

Marcos, who took office in June 2022, told reporters last month that China has insisted that there was such a secret agreement but said he was not aware of any.

“The Chinese are insisting that there is a secret agreement and, perhaps, there is and, I said I didn’t, I don’t know anything about the secret agreement,” said Marcos, who has drawn the Philippines closer to its treaty partner the US. “Should there be such a secret agreement, I am now rescinding it.”

Duterte nurtured cozy relations with Chinese President Xi Jinping during his six-year presidency while openly being hostile to the United States for its strong criticism of his deadly campaign against illegal drugs.

While he took an almost virulently anti-American stance during his 2016 visit to Washington’s chief rival, he has said he also did not enter into any agreement with Beijing that would have compromised Philippine territory. He acknowledged, however, that he and Xi agreed to maintain “the status quo” in the disputed waters to avoid war.

“Aside from the fact of having a handshake with President Xi Jinping, the only thing I remember was that status quo, that’s the word. There would be no contact, no movement, no armed patrols there, as is where is, so there won’t be any confrontation,” Duterte said.

Asked if he agreed that the Philippines would not bring construction materials to strengthen a Philippine military ship outpost at the Second Thomas (Ayungin) Shoal, Duterte said that was part of maintaining the status quo but added there was no written agreement.

“That’s what I remember. If it were a gentleman’s agreement, it would always have been an agreement to keep the peace in the South China Sea,” Duterte said.

House Speaker Ferdinand Martin Romualdez, Marcos’ cousin and political ally, has ordered an investigation into what some are calling a “gentleman’s agreement.”

China has also claimed that Philippine officials have promised to tow away the navy ship that was deliberately grounded in the shallows of the Second Thomas Shoal in 1999 to serve as Manila’s territorial outpost. Philippine officials under Marcos say they were not aware of any such agreement and would not remove the now dilapidated and rust-encrusted warship manned by a small contingent of Filipino sailors and marines.

China has long accused Manila of “violating its commitments” and “acting illegally” in the South China Sea, without being explicit.

Apart from China and the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei also have overlapping claims in the sea that is rich in fishing stocks, gas and oil. Beijing has refused to recognize a 2016 international arbitration ruling by a UN-affiliated court in The Hague that invalidated its expansive claims on historical grounds.

Skirmishes between Beijing and Manila have flared since last year, with massive Chinese coast guard cutters firing high-pressure water cannons at Philippine patrol vessels, most recently off Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal late last month, damaging both. They have also accused each other of dangerous maneuvering, leading to minor scrapes.

The US lays no claims to the South China Sea, but has deployed Navy ships and fighter jets in what it calls freedom of navigation operations that have challenged China’s claims.

The US has warned repeatedly that it’s obligated to defend the Philippines – its oldest treaty ally in Asia – if Filipino forces, ships or aircraft come under an armed attack, including in the South China Sea.

a couple of points to comment on here:

- I posted the tweet alleging treason because that's going to be the overwhelming public reaction to this, for anyone who cares at all.

- probably technically correct to say that Duterte did not surrender Philippine sovereignty, because that's not what the EEZ is about. Even the wikipedia article on the EEZ says "EEZ does not define the ownership of any maritime features (islands, rocks and low-tide elevations) within the EEZ".

- all of this makes sense in hindsight: if Duterte made a deal with the Chinese to withhold from trying to resupply Ayungin Shoal from anything more than basic necessities, then no wonder there was just about zero news of any kind of harassment in that sector over the last seven years. It dovetails with the idea that China's actions in trying to block ships from reaching the Sierra Madre is founded upon justifiable fears of further expansion or establishment of a base there - once they figured that the PH gov't was no longer holding to such a deal and might try putting construction materials on ships again, then they start blocking the supply runs.

- the media again is harping on this idea of Duterte being "virulently anti-American", which I've materially proven over and over to be false.

to make a bad analogy, it would be as if a Ukrainian president had entered into a secret deal that he would no longer shell Donetsk and Luhansk for as long as he was in office, and then the next president comes in, and that secret deal gets publicized, and everyone has to act all scandalized as though such a thing was a dire betrayal.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
relatedly, carl zha just released an interview where he goes into the history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zip0LY84aVg

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/pinaysipatricia/status/1786940691647771063

China Publicizes 2016 Deal With The Philippines

a couple of points to comment on here:

- I posted the tweet alleging treason because that's going to be the overwhelming public reaction to this, for anyone who cares at all.

- probably technically correct to say that Duterte did not surrender Philippine sovereignty, because that's not what the EEZ is about. Even the wikipedia article on the EEZ says "EEZ does not define the ownership of any maritime features (islands, rocks and low-tide elevations) within the EEZ".

- all of this makes sense in hindsight: if Duterte made a deal with the Chinese to withhold from trying to resupply Ayungin Shoal from anything more than basic necessities, then no wonder there was just about zero news of any kind of harassment in that sector over the last seven years. It dovetails with the idea that China's actions in trying to block ships from reaching the Sierra Madre is founded upon justifiable fears of further expansion or establishment of a base there - once they figured that the PH gov't was no longer holding to such a deal and might try putting construction materials on ships again, then they start blocking the supply runs.

- the media again is harping on this idea of Duterte being "virulently anti-American", which I've materially proven over and over to be false.

to make a bad analogy, it would be as if a Ukrainian president had entered into a secret deal that he would no longer shell Donetsk and Luhansk for as long as he was in office, and then the next president comes in, and that secret deal gets publicized, and everyone has to act all scandalized as though such a thing was a dire betrayal.

not constantly escalating tensions with the superpower next door is clearly treason, don't you know?

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.ft.com/content/8e4a9eb4-cd88-4625-a21b-6378d24c6dad

quote:

ft.com
EU would need 50% tariffs to curb imports of Chinese electric cars
Cleve Jones, Andy Bounds
4–5 minutes

The EU would need to impose huge tariffs of about 50 per cent to stem the flow of cheap Chinese electric vehicles into the bloc, according to new analysis.

Brussels’s blockbuster anti-subsidy investigation into Chinese electric cars is expected to conclude within weeks, but researchers at the Rhodium Group say any punitive action is likely to be too timid to deter Chinese carmakers.

“We expect the European Commission to impose duties in the 15-30 per cent range. But even if the duties come in at the higher end of this range, some China-based producers will still be able to generate comfortable profit margins on the cars they export to Europe because of the substantial cost advantages they enjoy,” the report says.

“Duties in the 40-50 per cent range — arguably even higher for vertically integrated manufacturers like BYD — would probably be necessary to make the European market unattractive for Chinese EV exporters.”

BYD’s Seal U, for example, sells for €20,500 in China and €42,000 in the EU. The estimated profit is €1,300 and €14,300 respectively, giving a strong incentive to export, Rhodium says.

Imports already pay a 10 per cent EU tariff rate, amounting to roughly €2,100 a vehicle.

“According to our calculations, a 30 per cent duty would still leave the company with a 15 per cent (€4,700) EU premium in relation to its China profits, meaning that exports to Europe would remain highly attractive,” the Rhodium report said.

BYD could even lower its prices to hit its target of capturing 5 per cent of the EU market by 2025 and 10 per cent by 2030, the report says. “Many other Chinese EV models would still enjoy a strong EU profit premium.”
Estimated cost and profit structure for BYD’s Seal U in the EU market

Rhodium calculated that the average punitive duty across all sectors where the EU has found subsidies is 19 per cent, if the affected companies co-operate, as Chinese carmakers BYD, SAIC and Geely have done.

Brussels announced its investigation in October after a surge in imports threatened domestic producers that are switching from combustion engine vehicles to electric ones.

Imports of EVs from China, including from non-Chinese manufacturers with plants there, increased from $1.6bn in 2020 to $11.5bn in 2023. The market share of Chinese brands rose more than fourfold in that time to 8 per cent last year.

That is set to hit 11 per cent this year, rising to 20 per cent by 2027, according to estimates from Transport & Environment, an NGO.

German and US carmakers, which manufacture in China and sell in the EU, are also vulnerable to higher tariffs. Rhodium says 15 per cent duties would wipe out profits for Tesla’s exports from China to the EU.

Beijing has denounced the investigation as protectionist, saying its companies are simply more competitive.

EU officials told the FT that preliminary duties could come as early as May, although the deadline is July. Permanent duties would have to win the support of a majority of EU member states, and would be imposed in November.

Rhodium said massive investment in factories meant that Chinese carmakers were obliged to export to make a satisfactory return.

By 2026, BYD’s annual production capacity in China will reach 6.6mn EVs up from 2.9mn at the end of 2023. To absorb that capacity domestically BYD would need to more than double its sales in a slowing market.

With countries including the US already imposing tariffs and restrictions, the EU has become the market of choice.

Rhodium predicts that EU policymakers in Brussels could use other means to protect domestic industry. They could restrict Chinese imports on security grounds, given how much data the vehicles collect, or focus consumer subsidies for electric vehicles on EU-made models.

The European Commission said it would complete inspection visits by the end of April and was “assessing the verified data and information”.

Euro vassals will buy their gasoline ford f150s with their excess savings and love it or else they'll get the Boeing whistleblower treatment for daring to buy a BYD EV.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJe7wGUMyTo

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
China is capturing its own labor arbitrage. Unacceptable, that's our fuckin' job!

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Danann posted:

https://www.ft.com/content/8e4a9eb4-cd88-4625-a21b-6378d24c6dad

Euro vassals will buy their gasoline ford f150s with their excess savings and love it or else they'll get the Boeing whistleblower treatment for daring to buy a BYD EV.

how is a 42k euro car considered dumping?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

jokes on them, europe will never ever build the infrastructure which would allow more than a token few electric cars on the road

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
If you impose a really high import tariff/consumption tax, it become cheaper to find ways to go around the tariff than to actually pay for it.

Say a 50% auto tariff happens tomorrow, China car makers will just find partners inside the EU free trade zone and sell cars under the new local brands. They are already doing that in Vietnam, got tons of US IPO stock money too. I am pretty sure they are doing it in Hungary.

This is also the right time to post that China>US non-direct trade stat

https://twitter.com/philippilk/status/1785219133602144742?t=YwtUTX1bq5KvJjTLEOF0Yw&s=19

Look how fast exporting goods find ways to go around the tariff since the trade war,

2018, China accounted for 21% US imports, Mex+ASEAN accounted for 20%
2023 China accounted for 16% and Mex+ASEAN accounted for 30%. And the 2nd graph collaborates it from the China exporting direction

I bet there are some goods that go around Canada too. My last China made ebike was shipped from a Canadian store. No tax and no custom charge.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 23:06 on May 5, 2024

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

GlassEye-Boy posted:

how is a 42k euro car considered dumping?

it's cheaper and better than what we can make, therefore it's unfair and bad

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

GlassEye-Boy posted:

how is a 42k euro car considered dumping?

How is a 42% profit margin considered dumping?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

NZAmoeba posted:

How is a 42% profit margin considered dumping?

it is when you are the sick continent of the world

Mandel Brotset
Jan 1, 2024

NZAmoeba posted:

How is a 42% profit margin considered dumping?

careful buddy, your tone makes it sound like you are questioning the rules based international order

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

NZAmoeba posted:

How is a 42% profit margin considered dumping?

Volvo's CEO knows whats up

https://www.theverge.com/24148110/polestar-ceo-volvo-geely-evs-electric-car-slowdown-decoder-interview

quote:

Let’s face it. China EVs did not become competitive or a threat to the OEMs of the world because of subsidies. They are technically competitive, highly competitive. That is what makes them a threat.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

more incredible things happening in China
The impact of square dancing on psychological well-being and life satisfaction among aging women

Liu, X., Du, Q., Fan, H. et al. The impact of square dancing on psychological well-being and life satisfaction among aging women. Sci Rep 14, 10405 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-024-61143-x posted:

As the most popular sport among middle-aged and elderly women in China, square dancing has both physical and psychological benefits for menopausal women. Previous studies have shown that square dance exercises can promote the physical health of older women, but there is a lack of research on the influence of middle-aged and elderly women on mental health and mediating variables. Therefore, this study starts with one of the important indicators of mental health—positive affects, aiming to explore the impact of square dance on the positive emotions of elderly women and further explore the mediating mechanisms involved. We send out The Physical Activity Rating Scale, the Positive and Negative Affect Scale, the Connor-Davidson Resilience Scale, and the Satisfaction With Life Scale to a total of 2311 middle-aged and elderly women. SPSS 23 software and PROCESS were used to perform regression analysis and establish mediation models. Modeling results show square dance exercises could positively predict positive affect through the chain mediating effect of psychological resilience and life satisfaction. The results of this study are of great significance for promoting the extensive participation of middle-aged and elderly women in sports and protecting their mental health.

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

NZAmoeba posted:

How is a 42% profit margin considered dumping?
:dudsmile:

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