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I mean, the genocidal entity has painted themselves into a corner - they've been saying "we've killed hamas, only a few brigades left in Rafah" so the settler population is like "well then let's finish it/them". No they can't not do a genocide, that'd be absurd. This is going to be horrible - but for both sides. the resistance has been preparing for months, and Rafah is more open than Gaza City was, afaik, so israeli soldiers will be attacked from more fronts.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:it's happening. dti May you all have a bad loving time. DTI DTA DTSA/DTJ forgot to add: DTUAE RoboBoogie has issued a correction as of 17:16 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Al-Saqr posted:if only you put the same level of effort to scream at the people at the murder-genocide conference you're attending as you are making GBS threads on these kids who are doing what they can with what they have. I’ll take it to the protest thread but hard agree. for me, the genocide and the protests against the genocide are dialectically linked, and burger posting is above all defined by an ambient sense of doomerism/nihilism that nothing matters, like that old lf post about mtw
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:it's happening. dti Wishing every IDF soldier a very happy red triangle
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double nine posted:I mean, the genocidal entity has painted themselves into a corner - they've been saying "we've killed hamas, only a few brigades left in Rafah" so the settler population is like "well then let's finish it/them". Reminds me of the US psyching itself up to invade North Vietnam every other year of the war, because they had convinced themselves they won in the south.
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VoicesCanBe posted:Wishing every IDF soldier a very happy red triangle
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RoboBoogie posted:May you all have a bad loving time. DTI DTA DTSA/DTJ Not familiar with those last two abbreviations
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BigWeirdSashimi posted:Not familiar with those last two abbreviations saudi arabia and jordan
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Real hurthling! posted:saudi arabia and jordan no, its Something Awful and Jeffrey
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:no, its Something Awful and Jeffrey
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I do think the Columbia one is relevant just because that's the one in the US I think is making it slowly dawn on more people that it's not just to vent anger but to try to get Columbia to divest from anything that funds Israel or helps out the IDF. The idea that it's just some vague unhappiness is something that's leveled at every protest no matter it's motive. I saw USA Today even has a piece about it and surprisingly, actually has the headline "Pro-Palestinian protesters urge universities to divest from Israel. What does that mean?" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pro-palestinian-protesters-urge-universities-to-divest-from-israel-what-does-that-mean/ar-AA1nAVpx It's not as optimistic and claims how the layers of how their money is invested and used to reach the point where it goes to Israel makes it too complicated to just stop of course. But I think this it the first time I'm seeing the coverage in the US making is unambiguously clear what the main purpose of these protests are and why other colleges are protesting now too in support of them/for their own schools to divest. While not the be all end all, protests and campouts along these lines were a starting point for drawing a lot of attention to what would eventually result in sanctions on South Africa. From the mid 70s to early 80s. dta, their enthusiastic support for Israel is disgusting. And since university divestment, and boycotts, BDS in general worked on South Africa in the US they already have legislation in places about how you can't openly say you're participating in BDS regarding Israel. But losing college endowment/donor level money is no joke, and in academia, I think if they (a massive task I know) can get even one of the bigger schools to openly say they're going to divest, I think more will follow this could actually be the beginning of something that hits the money. In the climate we have now where stuff like a general strike, etc. aren't really happening I do think this particular protest is worth following here. I'm glad there's more actual coverage of the mass graves happening in the US. It's another thing like the systematic sexual assaults, family punishments, the hits on specific aid workers as soon as they get a little popular, the IDF's use of human shields on their vehicles, the IDF systematically destroying any old architecture to erase Palestinian culture, that Palestinians have been talking about for years but no one ever gave the time of day or even considered real. The needle needs to keep being threaded that Biden's been blowing like billions a month of our money on this. The US is of course doing what the US does and will run interference on any real investigation happening into the mass graves, I think there's already been a few posts of articles confirming that the US doesn't want an independent investigation. This is so loving painful, my wife's Palestinian, and every time one of these atrocities actually does hit the news we "joke" about how you can count the exact weeks and months of the propaganda from: That didn't happen That did happen but no one knows how That happened but Hamas did it and the IDF saved everyone That happened but the IDF did it but it was a tragic accident four months pass That happened but the IDF did it gleefully coordinated to do it ahead of time and the truth is 10x worse than any previous account and the US has confirmed that no one will suffer any consequences for it But that timeline seems to be getting shorter over the past few months. It feels like only yesterday my lib relatives were telling me "well some sources say a Hamas missile hit that hospital", anecdotal but it's been surreal seeing this real time like, shattering of faith in the press as this unfolds more and more clearly in shorter amounts of time. Seeing western interviewers actually question the IDF spokespeople's vile bullshit, I never thought I'd see this happen in my life. This is going to be so loving terrible, I loving hate this. Egypt is going to loving sit there and let it happen too. No matter how harsh the statements they put out are. What are there, like maybe a few hundred tents? And that's the "people will buy it go ahead" for the US to let the IDF move into Rafah. I see MSN and some are already wording it like the IDF is doing this "despite the US' pleas" as if we didn't just give them $21 billion to do this. Absolute pieces of poo poo that would rather burn the entire planet down than acknowledge that Palestinians are human beings and settlement/colonialism is bad. dta, dta, dta, dta, dti, dtsa, dtj
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:no, its Something Awful and Jeffrey
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WoodrowSkillson posted:so literally the same thing they did in the north, which did nothing but kill 10 civilians for each actual Hamas soldier at a tremendous cost this is basically how america has fought every one of its wars 
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1783180810763260085?t=BGOKRnVvMkvsJMHrGaH4Rw&s=19 So D&D I/P thread is unmodded?
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captainbananas posted:IRG catfish game appears to be on point turn on your radar, as it might be a beacon for our love
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I said come in! posted:When the rafah invasion fails to do anything to stop Hamas, what will likely happen next? Israel will claim victory
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I said come in! posted:When the rafah invasion fails to do anything to stop Hamas, what will likely happen next? the fascist state of israel will eat itself
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WoodrowSkillson posted:so literally the same thing they did in the north, which did nothing but kill 10 civilians for each actual Hamas soldier at a tremendous cost The civilian to Hamas death ratio is at least two orders of magnitude higher than 1 to 10.
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I said come in! posted:When the rafah invasion fails to do anything to stop Hamas, what will likely happen next? they’ll declare victory
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Israel’s ability to fight Hamas has gone exactly how I predicted it would; which is to say Israel lost that fight instantly. Assuming Israel ever intended to be in it to begin with. I honestly think for Israel, this whole thing was genocide from day 1. It was always about collective punishment and killing as many Palestinian civilians as possible. America couldn’t stop the Taliban in Afghanistan, or all of the insurgents and groups that fought them in Iraq. There is no way that Israel was going to stop a very motivated and large fighting group in Gaza that had the backing of Iran, and had nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
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ELTON JOHN posted:the fascist state of israel will eat itself along with the rest of the west, god willing
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mags posted:they’ll declare victory How quickly before it becomes painfully obvious to Isreali civilians that victory was not achieved? What will probably be Israel’s response then?
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Mandel Brotset posted:along with the rest of the west, god willing Hoping this is the outcome.
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I said come in! posted:How quickly before it becomes painfully obvious to Isreali civilians that victory was not achieved? What will probably be Israel’s response then? Applause for the victory
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I said come in! posted:I honestly think for Israel, this whole thing was genocide from day 1. It was always about collective punishment and killing as many Palestinian civilians as possible. Day 1 being 14 May 1948
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I said come in! posted:How quickly before it becomes painfully obvious to Isreali civilians that victory was not achieved? What will probably be Israel’s response then? These people are capable of levels of cognitive dissonance beyond your comprehension
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I said come in! posted:How quickly before it becomes painfully obvious to Isreali civilians that victory was not achieved? What will probably be Israel’s response then? Vote out the current fascist government for a different fascist government.
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OctaMurk posted:These people are capable of levels of cognitive dissonance beyond your comprehension That is most likely true.
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between this war and Ukraine I'm getting the feeling that losing sides have a very, very difficult time learning that they are losing.
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Retromancer posted:Vote out the current fascist government for a different fascist government. That’s a given, and then rinse and repeat when no one new can keep them safe ever again.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:between this war and Ukraine I'm getting the feeling that losing sides have a very, very difficult time learning that they are losing. I would have thought America would have pulled Israel aside and explained to them what happened to the American army in the Middle East for the last 20 years, but lmao I’m extremely naive.
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I said come in! posted:How quickly before it becomes painfully obvious to Isreali civilians that victory was not achieved? What will probably be Israel’s response then? Continueing to commit genocide and ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip that’s been the goal the whole time and they are succeeding even if Hamas is beating them militarily.
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VoicesCanBe posted:Wishing every IDF soldier a very happy red triangle ameen
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I said come in! posted:I would have thought America would have pulled Israel aside and explained to them what happened to the American army in the Middle East for the last 20 years, but lmao I’m extremely naive. they've pulled Israeli aside. . .and given them a big ol high five and said we are with you 100%
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I said come in! posted:I would have thought America would have pulled Israel aside and explained to them what happened to the American army in the Middle East for the last 20 years, but lmao I’m extremely naive. Every person in America with political power thinks that this is the same army that won the 6 day war.
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Retromancer posted:Every person in America with political power thinks that this is the same army that won the 6 day war. Doesn’t surprise me.
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