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Another cool thing to consider about Dune is that a lot of popular scifi writers imagined humanity's future as being free from mysticism and driven by logic. Of course you still had it show up in campy space operas but it was the enemy. Ming of Mongo was an Asiatic tyrant, not a person to sympathize with. Frank Herbert said gently caress that: Religion will survive, logic won't rule, technology will be subordinate, and we might role backwards in social progress.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2017 23:20 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 12:00 |
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Where did stone burners fit into that?
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2017 23:10 |
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friendbot2000 posted:Also if they dont make the Harkonnen Duke as grosslooking as Lynch did I am going to be hella pissed The role will go to Tom Hardy
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 15:14 |
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Galewolf posted:Ironically, the Lynch Dune bankrupted the gently caress out of the production company because of his insistance on using trillion extras, pretty baller sets (I think Caladan and Geidi Prime scenes are just great but not so much the ones in Arakkis) I really disliked the appearance of the navigator like that. I just couldn't wrap my head around why it looked like a guinea pig with gigantism. Like why would his mouth change?
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2017 22:49 |
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Angela Lansburial posted:I was born to be in the C.H.O.A.M. Gang
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2017 23:04 |
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phasmid posted:Your av is great. How do we set it as a tag?
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2018 06:06 |
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Might be possible that it is a little of both: they can fold space only so far and need to make small successive jumps. Might explain the prescience so they don't jump into a star or debris sitting on the other side.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2018 04:11 |
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I forgot how the machinery clunks and weezes, and how he(?) almost purrs I actually hate the human embryo thing. It never made sense to me how a person would turn into that and at that scale. I get deformities and mutations but that was a bit much.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 15:52 |
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Dune is a series of novels that advocates positive eugenics
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 00:08 |
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I am gonna move to a backwater planet and breed mediocre children because I am the one person in the universe not obsessed with breeding super humans or measuring my family's lifespans in millenia
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 00:20 |
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"My son Paul-Leto wants to study theatre at the Atreides School for the Performing Arts"
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 00:22 |
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*works for an ad agency on Gammu*
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 23:16 |
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I am most of the way through Heretics and that quality just isn't there
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# ¿ May 12, 2018 19:09 |
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Double post
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# ¿ May 12, 2018 20:51 |
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basic hitler posted:I stopped in heretics shortly after teg thwarts some plot and discoverd the honored matres. the sex-weirdness was getting to me, even though i enjoy the plot otherwise, there's something deeply unpleasant about how the honored matres are written as well, so between young ghola duncan idaho and mind controlling pussies i'm just not into it. Yeah it's getting into weird sex tones that sounded understandable from a weird space worm but not as much from 'regular' people. Also lol at Waff being on Rakis literally listening in himself to a secret conversation.
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# ¿ May 12, 2018 21:17 |
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The original plot turns out to be an inter-spatial time orgy written like a first year philosophy book mated with a world religions textbook Pure Dune
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# ¿ May 12, 2018 23:46 |
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I just got to the word hypnobong
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 02:52 |
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Now I am reading the gently caress fight and it's kind of dumb
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 23:36 |
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I am understanding why I should have stopped at God Emperor
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# ¿ May 18, 2018 20:50 |
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"And even were I to complete my rocket and launch it" Mike mused, "the UN would use the Hubble Telescope's V-beam to holoproject a curvature onto my viewing lens. It is precisely what they would want . They would hide the truth that the world is flat and create new propaganda. Wheels within wheels."
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# ¿ May 19, 2018 23:54 |
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Arrhythmia posted:i think you meant to post this in the mad mike hughes thread, but that's okay, because htis post is great Murray Mantoinette posted:I think it was the ‘wheels within wheels’ part. Bingo. Thought it would fit in with the infowars stuff we were talking about
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# ¿ May 20, 2018 13:52 |
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Reading Chapterhouse. Nice to know even in the year 20,000 you can still get a decent brisket
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# ¿ May 23, 2018 00:12 |
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It is readily apparent that Frank Herbert wrote Heretics of Dune while he was really horny, and Chapterhouse while he was really hungry
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# ¿ May 31, 2018 22:35 |
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I'm the page about clam chowder
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# ¿ May 31, 2018 22:36 |
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In Chapterhouse there is a scene where Odrade and crew go on trip to find Sheeana. Between the descriptions of the scenery and the literal bus present, Frank probably wrote this part after doing a bus tour of Spain.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 16:16 |
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I call mine the sandtrout because it dehydrates planets
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 22:18 |
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I call mine Ix, for its length. Also the sound people make when they see it
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2018 01:47 |
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When I'm drunk I gently caress without rhythm Edit: page sniped like an Imperial wedding party on a bridge
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2018 01:47 |
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Did Frank secretly conceive of the water of life as cum and his homophobia made him cause it to kill any man that drank it? Does that mean Paul’s bi? He can access both male and female sides
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2018 02:13 |
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 04:43 |
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Doonesbury: Dilbert Planet Baronbert
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2018 12:58 |
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I finished Chapterhouse and my verdict is the obituary at the back is the best part
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 22:09 |
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Dune, God Emperor, Messiah, Children, Chapterhouse, Heretics
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 22:17 |
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DOONE
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 23:11 |
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basic hitler posted:Good rank. I like children a bit more tha messiah tho I couldn't get over the baron posessing Alia
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 23:13 |
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Children of Don
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 00:34 |
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Spice World, Girl planet.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 13:08 |
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phasmid posted:The unnamed foe (which became LORD CYBERTREX 9k) was an unnamed threat in the last two books. It was a really good buildup, but he died before his big reveal. Judging from those weird cat-humans, I was guessing it might be aliens, or a group of humans that were so far gone they were practically alien. No telling, really. My figuring was it'd be whatever Marty and Daniel were. A force so powerful they could tamper with the fabric of space and time while weeding
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 00:48 |
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Shaddak posted:I'm down with the idea of Marty and Daniel being facedancers. Assuming that's where Frank was going with it, I do wonder about how they were able to contact Duncan. I mean, as others have suggested, maybe they were facedancers that absorbed so many lives they became god-like. I was thinking it may have had something to do with whatever the Tleilaxu had done to this incarnation of Duncan. We still don't what all they crammed into his cells. My guess is that Duncan has whatever base that those face dancers where he is able to access and synthesize his previous ghola memories. These ones have the expanded set that they can absorb other people as well, which probably puts them in a category of being like a more pastoral version of the Borg. They go from place to place, absorbing skills and memories of different people's and species and keeping the most useful parts, which in this universe gives them stupid amounts of psychic powers. Chances are they probably have gone and created their own axolotl tanks and can simply transfer themselves into better and better bodies until they're mentally projecting teleportation nets or whatever the gently caress Duncan was seeing.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2018 03:58 |
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phasmid posted:Yeah, the fact that they show up right at the end was so out of the blue that it turbofucks any analysis of the story. lol I imagine they were facedancers because of the description but it would also resolve why the hell Scytale is left as a character in the book. Unless Frank Herbert just kind of didn't give a gently caress and forgot why he was there, Scytale would likely end up playing some sort of key role, or act as a form of exposition.
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