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I wish more comics stopped at that level of coloring. It's probably not artistically satisfying for the colorist, but what a solid look.
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The Last Call posted:He has failed to finish a few books hasn't he? At Marvel: Supreme Power launched in August 2003 as MAX reinterpretation of the Squadron Supreme. 18 issues came out in the first two years, followed by a five issue Hyperion mini-series that had some delays, then a Squadron Supreme series that also was delayed and ended on a cliffhanger after 7 of ?? issues came out and then the project just kind of... stopped. While Squadron Supreme was drifting off, JMS took over Fantastic Four in May 2005, and lasted sixteen issues before quitting the book either depending on when you ask due to a combination of vision problems, Hollywood commitments, wanting to dedicate more time to the impending Thor launch, or because he was mad at his event pitch being turned down for Civil War. Thor was a book that he was very up front about leaving because Marvel asked for him to let Thor start interacting with other books/rejoin the Avengers after Siege, and he was upset because he was promised they'd leave him alone to tell his story. The issue was that his story was supposed to take two years, and JMS's first Thor issue came out in July 2007. The last issue of Thor JMS wrote came out in November 2009, and was only his seventeenth issue of the book. Then there was The Twelve, a twelve issue series that had a big gap so it took close to four years to finish. At DC: Pretty much everything was delayed and/or never got finished: Brave & the Bold: Initially announced as a place for him to revamp the Archie/Red Circle superhero characters in fall 2008, then got shifted to "just DC superheroes teaming up" featuring a first issue with Batman & the Spectre. When his first issue dropped over a year later, there was no Spectre and while he teased a twist/character pairing that would "up the ante" and make the book a hit, he left the book a few months after the interview so no idea what he was planning. The Red Circle revamp ended up being a series of four one-shots that didn't involve any crossover with the DCU, which then spun-off into some short-lived series that JMS didn't get involved with. He did end up launching Earth One with Superman: Earth One, intended to be an annual series of OGNs with a brand new continuity. Three volumes were released between 2010 and 2015. He was also supposed to do "Samaritan X", an OGN about a hospital for superheroes in Gotham, but that also never materialized. He jumped off his concurrent Superman and Wonder Woman runs after 5-6 issues around this time as well. He was also announced as doing a Flash: Earth One series but that also never happened. Elsewhere: Rising Stars did finish, but it took a long time and there was a big gap. In the 2010s he announced a number of other series that I did not keep track of well enough to know if they actually reached the end of their stories. At least one series (with Bill Sienkiewicz) was announced but never solicited. In 2016, he announced he was retiring from comics because he'd done everything he could possibly do with them. Then in 2018 he signed on to AWA Studios, Axel Alsono & Bill Jemas's company that has put out a remarkable number of comics that no one I know has read. JMS created a new 'superhero universe' for them that sounds kind of like Rising Stars and kind of like Supreme Power, and he's apparently written at least forty issues of various mini-series for them.
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Apr 23, 2024 06:34
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JMS did a great Thor run and a great Spiderman run (tho one with a poo poo ending). That's all I needed. Also he did something on TV I hear?
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Apr 23, 2024 08:24
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I can't tell if this is a slight against the incredibly good "Babylon 5".
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Apr 23, 2024 09:08
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Siegkrow posted:JMS did a great Thor run and a great Spiderman run (tho one with a poo poo ending). That's all I needed. Yeah! He wrote for the cartoon The Real Ghostbusters! And the kind of obscure but insanely full of effort Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future that was meant to sell toys? I guess all 80s cartoons were though
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Apr 23, 2024 10:00
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Jiro posted:I can't tell if this is a slight against the incredibly good "Babylon 5". Oh that's his? Huh. I was not into sci-fi when it came out and nowadays I ended up with hype aversion but I keep hearing it's good.
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Apr 23, 2024 10:45
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The Twelve was really good. Glad it finished eventually. 
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Apr 23, 2024 11:17
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The Last Call posted:He has failed to finish a few books hasn't he? He also bailed on Wonder Woman and Phil Jiminez had to wrap it up.
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Apr 23, 2024 12:33
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Siegkrow posted:Oh that's his? Huh. I was not into sci-fi when it came out and nowadays I ended up with hype aversion but I keep hearing it's good. Last time I looked into it people were like, "OK you need to watch the first episode, episodes 7 and 9, the last half of 13 and the first half of 14, this Youtube compilation of scenes from episodes 19-21, and the season finale, and then watch from season 2 onwards regularly"
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Apr 23, 2024 13:40
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Gripweed posted:Last time I looked into it people were like, "OK you need to watch the first episode, episodes 7 and 9, the last half of 13 and the first half of 14, this Youtube compilation of scenes from episodes 19-21, and the season finale, and then watch from season 2 onwards regularly" Just watch it all. Season 1 being bad is basically the same as people saying season 2 of Star Trek TNG is 'bad'. There's a couple of stone cold classics, a half dozen good ones, a dozen mid episodes and like 6-7 stinkers. So, it's like all good network/syndicated TV.
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Apr 23, 2024 15:17
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Gaz-L posted:Just watch it all. Season 1 being bad is basically the same as people saying season 2 of Star Trek TNG is 'bad'. There's a couple of stone cold classics, a half dozen good ones, a dozen mid episodes and like 6-7 stinkers. So, it's like all good network/syndicated TV. I don't even think there's even that many stinkers in season 1. They make it sound like TNG season 1 sometimes and it's very much not that bad, or really bad at all. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Apr 23, 2024 15:21
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Synthbuttrange posted:Yeah! He wrote for the cartoon The Real Ghostbusters! And the kind of obscure but insanely full of effort Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future that was meant to sell toys? I guess all 80s cartoons were though I mean his masterpiece was clearly Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
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Apr 23, 2024 15:22
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Yeah it’s weird because for the most part I actually think JMS is a GOOD writer!! He misses sometimes but when he’s on he’s on! I have some great memories of reading or watching his work! Babylon 5 rocks!
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Apr 23, 2024 15:34
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X-O posted:I mean his masterpiece was clearly Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
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Apr 23, 2024 16:31
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Oracle posted:I think we have to be friends now. I didn’t think anyone remembered that show. We even had the toys. Oh I had some of the toys as well. Which sucked because they were just the vehicles and came with just little generic guys inside of them because I think they made the toy vehicles before they even came up with a cartoon and characters. I clearly remember a good guy vehicle with a claw and gold spiral wheels and a bad guy vehicle with a buzzsaw on top of it.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:01
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I read through the first couple bits of the 2004 Supergirl series. That was an odd book.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:13
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Beerdeer posted:I read through the first couple bits of the 2004 Supergirl series. That was an odd book. Yeah, Supergirl's return was a weird mixed bag all around. I still love that apparently her costume was designed in-universe by Lois and Ma Kent.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:39
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I really liked the swamp thing story in the latest brave and the bold.
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Apr 23, 2024 19:44
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I think Brave and the Bold started off with Mark Waid and then JMS wrote a terrible story of the Flash being put into world war II and wondering if heroes could still kill if it was during a war. I think he also did a Brother Geek story in B&B
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Apr 23, 2024 21:17
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The more I read the Power girl comic the more confused I get. It's like they switched the personalities of PG and Supergirl.
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Apr 23, 2024 21:34
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Power Girl currently comes off as the writer both loving the character and hating everything about how she has been up until now. This feels like an entirely different Power Girl, like a cousin or sister to the original. But no, it's her. I said writer but the changes could be a DC thing with the writer dealing with what she was told to do. That's half the time the situation.
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Apr 23, 2024 21:39
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Yeah the Power Girl series is enjoyable but this is pretty much not a recognizable Power Girl. The name change was also really dumb.
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Apr 23, 2024 22:26
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Beerdeer posted:I read through the first couple bits of the 2004 Supergirl series. That was an odd book. Is this the Matrix version or Jeph Loeb's returned supergirl after editorial got rid of the "Only one survivor of Krypton" They'd been holding onto since 86? Also, JMS is not a bad writer. He's INCREDIBLY good at building detailed worlds and giving his characters their quirks. The problem is that he has trouble sticking to anything and keeping the ideas coming. I haven't read a lot of his work, but things like Grounded, and Supreme Power are really one core idea that he pushes and fleshes out. Grounded is "Superman feels he's lost touch with the common man because of depression, so he just walks across America" Supreme Power is "What if Superman landed and was picked up by the government?" There are other things there (Nighthawk being a racist black man, the idea that super powers only started cropping up because Hyperion's ship spread something in the atmosphere), but it comes back to that core idea of Superman being attached to the government for Hyperion. But JMS doesn't seem to be able to harness his creativity to keep that story running beyond his initial concept playing out.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah the Power Girl series is enjoyable but this is pretty much not a recognizable Power Girl. The name change was also really dumb. It's especially dumb because it's pages (yes, yes, pun) wasted on a change that absolutely is not going to stick once Williams leaves. It does feel like she likes the idea of Power Girl but basically thinks she should be what Supergirl has been except angstier. Like, if the book was called Supergirl, the plots were basically the same, but the main character was Kara... the book would actually be better.
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Doesn't help the writer treats her as being Supergirl, but not. They're two very different characters. Physically Mentally Emotionally Yet the writer acts as if they were almost clones of one another without any difference despite Powergirl having an established identity, personality and more. Yet most of her history almost feels like it doesn't exist in this.
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"OK, so who's this Power Girl you want me to write?" "Oh, she's really cool, she's basically an alternate reality version of Supergirl.." "OK, gotcha *googles Supergirl*" "Wait, there's more to her than tha-"
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Gaz-L posted:It's especially dumb because it's pages (yes, yes, pun) wasted on a change that absolutely is not going to stick once Williams leaves. It does feel like she likes the idea of Power Girl but basically thinks she should be what Supergirl has been except angstier. Ha, I actually never looked at it that way and you're completely right
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The Last Call posted:Doesn't help the writer treats her as being Supergirl, but not. Yeah, Karen's thing was always her confidence. She was established. And it's very true, Supergirl since basically she's come back has had a very mixed bag of ongoings and what Power Girl has now I would have loved to see Kara have.
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X-O posted:Oh I had some of the toys as well. Which sucked because they were just the vehicles and came with just little generic guys inside of them because I think they made the toy vehicles before they even came up with a cartoon and characters. I clearly remember a good guy vehicle with a claw and gold spiral wheels and a bad guy vehicle with a buzzsaw on top of it. Yeah the toy materials were lacking for the good guy side. the MONSTER MINDS were all there though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9K0SzFIf4A (did anyone else as a kid keep thinking 'okay but the wheels have to twist off eventually if they're organic right?')
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Gaz-L posted:It's especially dumb because it's pages (yes, yes, pun) wasted on a change that absolutely is not going to stick once Williams leaves. It does feel like she likes the idea of Power Girl but basically thinks she should be what Supergirl has been except angstier. That sounds like basically the new 52 meeting between Supergirl and Power Girl. ... can Power Girl become Power Woman already? Part of her Schtick is she's a more mature person than Supergirl.
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Reading her current run, you wouldn’t exactly know her to be more mature than Supergirl. She almost feels barely out of her teens.
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Apr 24, 2024 04:54
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The Last Call posted:Reading her current run, you wouldn’t exactly know her to be more mature than Supergirl. yeah that sounds like a leah williams comic lol
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Apr 24, 2024 06:59
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It just feels like she wanted to write a supergirl series and was told to do PG.
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The Last Call posted:Reading her current run, you wouldn’t exactly know her to be more mature than Supergirl. Yeah, the 'Lilith teaches PG how to roller skate' was not badly written or not charming but an odd fit for PG.
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Azubah posted:I really liked the swamp thing story in the latest brave and the bold. Same! One of my favorite things I've read in a comic in a long while
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Apr 24, 2024 12:44
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Batman: The Dark Age has been a fun read so far. I've always loved Mike and Laura Allred's work and enjoyed Mark Russell's Flintstones. So far they've been a great combination for this mini series. Can't wait for the remaining issues to come out.
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Apr 24, 2024 19:36
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Siegkrow posted:It just feels like she wanted to write a supergirl series and was told to do PG. Which in itself is weird, because Supergirl feels like the easier sell in the direct market? Why did it need to be a Power Girl title? I genuinely would love to see an interview with Williams and Sauvage about this.
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Apr 24, 2024 19:47
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Power Girl is one of my absolute favorite DC characters and every single issue of this run has been absolute suffering for me. Just a complete misunderstanding of everything that makes Power Girl who she is. It's awful and the sooner Williams is off of this book the better, be it via cancellation or someone else coming in and picking up the reins.
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You could just not read it.
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Open Marriage Night posted:You could just not read it. Don't be absurd 
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