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Arist posted:Also I realize a lot of the reason it's so memorable is just the panel composition but I was a little underwhelmed by how they adapted this part: TBH this I feel a lot of part 5 (and latter part 4) has really failed as, like, an adaption. A lot of what makes Jojo so good is how it plays with panel layouts, perspectives, and how it uses exposition as a tool to heighten the tension. Often these techniques arn't as effective in an animated format, and so the series suffers from being as literally translated as it is. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 17, 2019 |
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Expect My Mom posted:i really can't disagree with this less The torture dance was very good, but I feel like that's an exception that proves my point. For one, in the manga it's a set of panels all shown from the same perspective that's designed to show choreography, so it's uniquely suited to being adapted into animation. For another, the anmation expanded upon the manga panels significantly, that is, they went farther in adapting it. It shows that the anime can be quite good when they actually take liberties with the material, so what a shame they don't do that more often! Compare that with the Thankful Dead episodes. Any given scene from them looks like a direct copy from a manga panel, only in place of the dynamic panel layout they have speed lines and graphical effects -- and while the graphical effects can be great, they're not so great that they make up for the fact that there basically isn't any animation. This ties into your praise for the VA's and performances and such. You're correct that they're great, but that doesn't make it a good anime, it makes it a good audio drama.
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May 17, 2019 20:16
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Bad Seafood posted:He's a man of the land, drat
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May 18, 2019 00:33
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I've been trying my hardest not to go "YO BUT PART 6 THO" to my Jojo watching crew during this season, and to my shame I have not always succeeded.
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Jun 2, 2019 06:38
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I dig Dio 2.0, not as much as a character, but as this demonic figure Valentine calls to existence (from a world without "the saint" even!), bargains with, and then sets loose.
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Expect My Mom posted:e: Wes was also was never able to kill himself, the chamber of the gun would be full of water or a gust of wind would lift him back on to a cliff if he tried to jump, so Weather Report itself seems to be a tad autonomous when it wants to be, a sorta Larry Trainor /Negative Spirit sorta deal wonderin how many little RC cars WR has in his cell
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Jun 6, 2019 21:43
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Yinlock posted:plus aiming toes is way harder especially when you can't move your legs
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Jun 8, 2019 03:15
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Crazy Diamond's ability to heal people and restore objects is just a side effect of its true ability: to impose character development.
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Jun 11, 2019 01:42
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Yinlock posted:the thing is he and doppio are entirely separate people so it's more like doppio's gone through all that buildup and diavolo is just some rear end in a top hat in a bad shirt That's the bigger problem. There's a handful of scenes where Doppio loses the soft idiot kid mask and he becomes this ruthless killer. Compared to him, actual Diavolo is just so disappointing.
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Jun 15, 2019 05:37
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Pucci's idealized heaven is one in which everyone is aware of the exact circumstances of their fate and therefor be at peace. The consequences of Emporio defeating him is an end to that certainty. This is represented firstly by Emporio and representives of the dead being placed outside of prison and secondly by the story coming to an end, such that neither the author or the reader can know what happens next. I ain't about to tell anyone their opinion is wrong or anything, but I felt Part 6 stuck the landing super hard. And while all of Jojo is consistently excellent, Parts 6 and 7 are the only one's I'd consider next to flawless.
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Jun 15, 2019 19:36
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The real tragedy with Doppio/Diavolo is that not only is Diavolo as a character less interesting than Doppio as a character , he's not even as interesting as Diavolo as a voice in Doppio's head.
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Jun 15, 2019 20:08
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The rock is good.
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Dio is an embodiment of Valentine's desire to pervert the corpse of Jesus for the benefit of America. As such, he's consumed in a Christ/Anti-Christ reaction.
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Jul 20, 2019 22:01
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Giorno comes from the right ball, his siblings from the left one That's not fair to them. They never received the validation of a greatful gangstar.
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Jul 30, 2019 00:15
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:And Ungalo just looks like...
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Jul 30, 2019 22:27
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It's a horse race with cowboys, so clearly it should be tagged "Western Garbage."
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I wanted to reply to this thread from the Let's Read, but it's pretty drat suggestive of things to come so I'm writing it here.Johnny Joestar posted:it's the source of some of my biggest gripes with part 7 and i'm sad to say it's not the last time someone is weird towards lucy steel It's not just[ people being weird towards Lucy, it's people projecting qualities onto her and then trying to possess her, as like a sort of talisman. Specifically, it's a manifestation of the same greed people express toward the corpse. Only, while the corpse is this (apparently) inanimate dead thing, Lucy is a living person. In associating the two, we're told that taking the corpse is not a neutral act of having an object, but as malicious as transgressing against a person. And desiring Lucy is not a neutral case of failing to "comprehend the concept of age" or OK just long as you're "back in the day" or whatever, but an act of blasphemy. The point of this is to highlight, in bold and triple underline that the President and co. are not just an adventurous crew rowdy to do some action archaeology, but genuinely evil people who's aims are ruinous to the safety and well being of others, especially the powerless.
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Jojo Part 6 is the ultimate in Araki going all in on narrative logic at the expense of actual logic and it rules hard.
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Funky Valentine posted:I feel like the Diavolo half of the Doppio/Diavolo gestalt would need to be way more compelling than he actually was for that to work. That's a given for any improved take on part 5.
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Oct 5, 2019 03:33
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Vookatos posted:I've heard that this part is divisive, and I get that (especially with that ending), but I'm guessing it's all because it's an anthology series, where every entry just doesn't grab some people. If it's actually a majority's least favorite, I really don't get why. I think it's the part I've enjoyed the most so far! This person gets it.
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Oct 21, 2019 13:37
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Vookatos posted:A bit of an abrupt ending (still more satisfying than Part 5's) is offputting, but maybe that new world is why we don't know what will happen to those people. No one determined their fate, not even the author, and that's pretty sweet in its own right. That's my take as well.
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Oct 22, 2019 21:19
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Josuke Higashikata posted:JoJolion has also climaxed like three times already This is the power of four balls.
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Nov 20, 2019 14:41
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GimmickMan posted:Usually the way Araki writes villains makes it clear they're just prettyboy lunatics. Jojo is not the kind of story where the protagonist spends 10 speech balloons explaining to the big bad why their worldview is wrong, instead they prove it with their actions. This mostly syncs up with what happens during True Man's World with Ringo, with the exception that Gyro proves Ringo temporarily correct by killing him instead of knocking him out and then later is inspired by his words. I wouldn't mind the arc as a whole if it wasn't for both of those things happening and that's what separates him from Axl Ro and Valentine, who are quickly forgotten or are immediately proven to be full of poo poo afterwards. Ringo having a worldview that proves somewhat attractive to Gyro and Johnny (despite its repulsiveness) isn't an endorsement of that worldview but characterization. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Nov 21, 2019 17:01
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multijoe posted:Valentine legit changes from chubster to insanely jacked guy over one scene as he's menacing Lucy in his mansion. There's no alternate reality shenanigans, it's just Araki playing the Tamani stature thing for drama, you can go look it up. See also: Pesci, Damo
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Nov 27, 2019 15:24
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Pootybutt posted:a particularly lovely and/or broken Requiem stand awakening. Now I'm imagining King Crimson except it just doesn't work.
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Part 6 has a lot of false starts and dead ends where its pretty obvious Araki changed his mind, but while its plot wavers it's one of the most thematically strong and consistent parts. It also absolutely nails its ending.
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TheLoneStar posted:We can all at least agree that Part 6 hosted the worst Stand battle in JoJo history, Dragon's Dream, right? Dragon's Dream was below average but not miserably so. Part 5 had more than a couple fights that were just as bad.
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Mar 21, 2020 18:11
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Jotaro really only has so many ways to engage with the world.
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Goo Goo Dolls is the good version of the Alessi fight.
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Arist posted:Sugar Mountain/Tattoo You might be my favorite "arc" in the series.
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Toplowtech posted:It's harder to crash a boat but i am sure he can manage. The villain's plan was to crash an airplane into the boat.
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TheLoneStar posted:I can't think of any other fight where it's that egregious. That's true, but I think it works in context. The fact that the stand was pretty much manifesting the user's guilty conscious, and that the nonsense Feng Shui was only a reflection of that, was enough for me to go along with it. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 05:02 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 16, 2020 03:37
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I'd write a post agreeing with the other poster but now all I can think of is a goatse stand This power I have, I've named it 「Ｓｕｐｅｒｍａｓｓｉｖｅ Ｂｌａｃｋ Ｈｏｌｅ」
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May 16, 2020 05:04
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Dragonwagon posted:I still can't take Valentine's emoji speech seriously. Valentine knows he has maybe a minute to play this rube or else he dies and he's overclocking his politician processors to try and make that happen.
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May 21, 2020 16:24
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Part 6 had an evil baby and it did not get shot.
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Jun 8, 2020 00:19
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if your heart is not chill, do not shoot
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Jun 8, 2020 20:07
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I dunno. 89 years is a long time. :/
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Jul 23, 2020 23:18
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rko posted:It’s nowhere near as egregious as, say, Part 4 Josuke’s never-followed-up flashback to a guy who looks just like him saving his life in a series that includes time travel, or course. The never touched on mystery on why Josuke looks just like this person he modeled himself after.
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rko posted:Conservation of detail? When the author shows you something, you expect it to matter, especially when the scene appears to be setting up a mystery (who was that rude punk). You're viewing the scene as a set up, but it's the pay-off of and explanation for Josuke's defensive behavior.
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